Ox only cycles-What ancilliaries are best/necessary?

[the urge]

KO - sexual sides are possible. You could run a small amount of test with the oxandrolone, Just to keep levels kinda "baseline" - like 100-200 mg's of a long acting ester every 7-10 days. Have run a couple of ox cycles like this and it works great. Not enough test to have to worry about estrogen suppression or sides, but keeps some test in the system. Ox is great man - enjoy!

 

[ucdkid]

A little off topic....

a-dex or femera can lower e too much causing a big drop in libido.

Nelson- Whats your opinion of taking a-dex or femera during a cycle, for instance a 10 week cycle of test/eq ?? Does it o more than good??

Thanks
UCD KID

 

[Zagreus]

I ran Denkall Ox 40mg ed for 10 weeks and did not have significant sexual sides. Had more sexual sides with Primo only cycles then Ox only. IO agree with Nelson, you do not need a typical post recovery with Ox only.


Zag-

 

[liftsiron]

I also agree with nelson, no post recovery needed. Unleashed or the promatrix formula would be good though. I ran proviron with var a few times, they work very well together the proviron adds extra hardness as well as lowered SHBG which means better gains from the var. And proviron has to be one of the best sexual aid drugs ever developed. I ran 40mg var and 25mg proviron with test, recently for nearly six months. I used a lot of cla, ala, gla, NAC and acytal l- carntine durning that cycle. I did not get a raise in ldl nor did I get a fall in hdl, all my liver and kidney tests were within normal linits. I also used .5mg liquidex eod to keep the test bloat at bay.

 

[KOArtist]

liquidex for "test bloat" when you were on var and proviron only???? Now im really confused. Do i need an anti-e post cycle or not!?!?!??! Nelson, do you actually suggest...nothing at all post cycle??(other than "unleashed" or something similar)????

 

[Deleted member 33117]

You don't need an anti-E on a proviron/anavar cycle. Anavar isn't a substrate for the aromatase enzyme. Th only reason to use tamoxifen on this cycle is to improve your blood-lipid profiles, which could be an issue.

 

[al1602]

Well according to what i have been reading, it seems you should also include Proscar for the hairloss I was reading a post that these guys are losing their hair from anavar.. Screwy. I thought that Oxandrolone was the safest and side effect free drug.. WHat is the deal.. Can someone in the know speak up on this subject.. thanks

 

[KOArtist]

one more bump. If I end up shut down forever after not using any clomid and/or nolva post cycle, Im hunting your asses down. Is there not ANYONE who disagrees w/ Nelson/liftisiron and thinks I should take something "non OTC"(clomid and or nolva) post cycle?????

 

[KOArtist]

not a damn one of you? Ok, fine

 

[Nelson Montana]

What's so hard to understand? You don't need an anti aromatse with something that doesn't aromatize. You also don't wear mosquito repelant in Febuary in Maine.

This is indicitive of how brainwashed people have gotten with the use of anti e's. It has to stop.

I'm also not so sure about nolva improving blood lipis profile. Lower e tends to increase LDL.