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Ox only cycles-What ancilliaries are best/necessary?

al1602 said:
Well according to what i have been reading, it seems you should also include Proscar for the hairloss I was reading a post that these guys are losing their hair from anavar.. Screwy. I thought that Oxandrolone was the safest and side effect free drug.. WHat is the deal.. Can someone in the know speak up on this subject.. thanks

WTF- I basically swore off test forevfer because of hairloss ans was basically planning on usung just anavar(maybe eq) from here on out. This is the first I've heard of anavar and hairloss. Anyone care to fill me in?
 
Nelson Montana said:
What's so hard to understand? You don't need an anti aromatse with something that doesn't aromatize. You also don't wear mosquito repelant in Febuary in Maine.

This is indicitive of how brainwashed people have gotten with the use of anti e's. It has to stop.

I'm also not so sure about nolva improving blood lipis profile. Lower e tends to increase LDL.

I know I dont need an anti-aromatase when something doesnt aromatize, but theres other possibilities with Anavar (see Golfer18's current post) due to GH/IGF-1 issues and this Ive also heard can be helped by nolva, so its not as simple, and Im not as dumb as u act like I am. And since Anavar DOES shut you down, using something like clomid/nolva/hcg post cycle would seem to make sense as well. Theres really no mosquitos in Maine in February???
 
liquidex for "test bloat" when you were on var and proviron only???? Now im really confused. Do i need an anti-e post cycle or not!?!?!??! Nelson, do you actually suggest...nothing at all post cycle??(other than "unleashed" or something similar)????


Last edited by KOArtist on 01-Sep-2003 at 10:38 PM



Read my post goddamnit, I said that I did a proviron, anavar and TEST cycle.
 
So what is the deal? who is losing their hair from this.. this has to be a joke. I havent seen anything except a few posts here about the hairloss.
Can someone with real world experience please speak up because this seems like more posting silliness.
I think this may be some kind of rumor based on someone getting fake anavar.
I DO know that there have been cases where anavar / oxandrolone was actually methyltestosterone and passed off as the real thing and that definitely would cause hairloss and some of the sides described here. But I dont want to make any assumptions without being able to vouch for it myself. If anyone (or a MOD) has any ideas please post. We would all like to know.
 
i also read the post about the guys losing hair form anavar BUT it probably wasnt anavar. I was most likely a form of test .. starts with a M i forget how to spell it. I dont know much about this subject.. but i did read that post and do agree that what they had was not anavar.
 
superbigzane said:
NEVER RUN AROMATIZING GEAR WITHOUT lots of arimidex / finasteride stack for proper hair savior and tits preventer and bloat preventer.

K... but as it's been stated before... it doesn't aromatize... so your point is moot...
 
I did a Var only cycle for 7 weeks, 40mg of spanish generic. Didn't get any sides, all I took with it was milk thistle and creatine. Around week 5 it seemed like I was getting alot more hairs in my hands when I was lathering up, so I started taking Saw Palmetto seemed to help. Didn't lose any noticeable hair. I didn't do any post cycle therapy either, didn't need it. If I did another var cycle I would definitely take Saw Palmetto again and get some spiro.
I'm 36 with a full head of hair
 
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