Oral AAS before a workout.

[rperry]

personally i agree w/ nautica. it makes me more fired up in my head and thats realy where the workout happens for me. if im not jacked in my head than i mite as well drive right back home cause the workout my body will be performing wont even be worth setting foot in the gym.


i hit 10mg of d-bol for a few weeks between cycles just for gtins to see what it would do. im sure it fucked with my body chemistry pretty bad since i was just done with a cycle a few weeks ago and was still recovering but i had awesoem workouts.

 

[supertech69]

Well I certainly get more pumped when I workout versus watching TV.. I sure hope this is the case for everyone..

Andy

Depends on whatI'm watching! Seeing Jenna J. Taking it in the .....well, that gets me pretty pumped!

 

[panerai]

Can you show this?

Interesting....

 

[Andy13]

welcome to the world of estrogenic metabolites.. the fun metabolites of dbol that just loves to hang around for a lot longer that poor little dbol itself.. which btw- has a half life under 2hrs

Hmmm... Soooo then... It sure would be interesting to see if guys who cycle dbol (only) along with l-dex get a pump at all...

I'm not convinced E2 is responsible that much for the "pump".

Andy

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Hmmm... Soooo then... It sure would be interesting to see if guys who cycle dbol (only) along with l-dex get a pump at all...

I'm not convinced E2 is responsible that much for the "pump".

Andy

interestingly those that use dbol with liquidex get LESS pump.. however dbol seems to increase aromatase more than other orals as well (maybe why people have "claimed" in the past that dbol aromatizes easily..) .. so you still will get conversion with dbol and liquidex.. as many users have found..

 

[panerai]

Hmmm... Soooo then... It sure would be interesting to see if guys who cycle dbol (only) along with l-dex get a pump at all...

I'm not convinced E2 is responsible that much for the "pump".

Andy

I use dbol(not only) with liquidex, and don't get any pumps, at all. A year ago, I was using dbol(not only) without liquidex( just some Cytadren, not enough for all the aromatics, obviously) and pumps were hard to deal with. I had to sit down for at least 10-15min after each back or leg workout.
Now, with liquidex, I actually enjoy having dbol in my stack.
Of course, it's not a proof that pumps are due to estro metabolites, but, I think, that it's highly possible.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

I use dbol(not only) with liquidex, and don't get any pumps, at all. A year ago, I was using dbol(not only) without liquidex( just some Cytadren, not enough for all the aromatics, obviously) and pumps were hard to deal with. I had to sit down for at least 10-15min after each back or leg workout.
Now, with liquidex, I actually enjoy having dbol in my stack.
Of course, it's not a proof that pumps are due to estro metabolites, but, I think, that it's highly possible.

your experience is not uncommon.. take a couple days off(3-4) of liquidex.. MAJOR PUMPS..

 

[Andy13]

your experience is not uncommon.. take a couple days off(3-4) of liquidex.. MAJOR PUMPS..

I know it FEELS like you are growing when you are pumped.. But does the size of the 'pump,' in ANY way relate to the effectiveness of the AAS?

THis isn't a fair question to ask.. If a guy loads up on anadrol, and, gets PUMPED in the gym, he willl certainly say that he made gains.. And then, after the cycle, wonder where all of his gains went..


So can you really say that the size of the pump has anything (whatsoever) to do with the effectivness of the AAS? I might also add that your diet plays a half-way decent role in the size of the pump.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

ANDY.. not directly.. merely that less estrogen= less pump..

however the fluid adds stability, both muscular and hence also joint.. allowing for heavier poundages in training (though for some pump also decreases reps.. ie.. too pumped)

btw- am still trying to find half life data.. pretty sure that it is 1.5-2hr with oral admin.. but have seen on one MDSE site 3.25-3.5hrs.. but no specified admin route..

 

[THeMaCHinE]

Wouldn't the increased stretching of muscle fascia (induced by a more severe pump) lead to more growth (over a long period)...