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No libido on TRT...pls help!!!
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pt-141 is great but it isn't like viagra or cialis. Its just different. You will like it for a while but in reality you should be looking for something that isn't the replacement.
Holly shit dude. That is while on? Why didn't he check your estogen? Your problem is conversion get some freaken proviron and bump up the test to 150mg/week for 6 months. The proviron will keep the test from converting to estro. Here is the wiki info on it:
Mesterolone
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Mesterolone
Systematic (IUPAC) name
1 alpha-methyl-17 beta-hydroxy-5 alpha-androstan-3-one
Identifiers
CAS number 1424-00-6
ATC code G03BB01
PubChem 15020
Chemical data
Formula C20H32O2
Mol. mass 304.467 g/mol
Pharmacokinetic data
Bioavailability ?
Metabolism Liver
Half life ?
Excretion ?
Therapeutic considerations
Pregnancy cat. ?
Legal status Prescription Only (AU)
Routes ?
Mesterolone is an orally applicable androgen, and DHT derivative. It is sold under the brand name Proviron, by Schering. In the late 70's and early 80's it was used with some success in controlled studies of men suffering from various forms of depression.
In one randomized, double-blind 4-week trial, 38 dysthymic men were administered 75mg daily. Itil & Colleagues reported an improvement of symptoms which included anxiety, lack of drive and desire. Next, they administered a high dose (450mg/day) or placebo in a 6-week randomized trial of 52 men with a mean age of 40 years, suffering from dysthymia, unipolar and bipolar depression. Both the mesterolone and placebo groups improved significantly and there were no statistically significant differences between the two groups. In this series of studies mesterolone lead to a significant decrease in LH and testosterone levels. This is probably as a result of the extremely high dose used. In another, 100mg mesterolone cipionate was administered twice monthly. With regards to plasma T levels, there was no difference between the treated vs untreated group, and baseline LH levels were minimally affected.[1]
Mesterolone is a relatively weak androgen and rarely used for replacement therapies.[2]
DJ_UFO
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Geezus man you HPTA is absolutely shut down. Interesting case. And yet, another case handled by "doctors" who don't have the most minimum fucking idea of what is doing. You need to test estrogen and SHBG too. I am no expert by have enough knowledge to understand my complex endocrine system.
Forget about PT-141, forget about passion rx, cialis, viagra, etc. Those will be temporary fixes for a night or something. There is a way deeper issue here that you need to take care of, and that is done in a different way. It would be good to have Nelson's opinion here, he has experience with HRT.
Like I said, again, I am no expert on this, but my common sense tells me that it would be a good idea to run an agressive PCT? consisting in HMG maybe with HCG, an anti-estrogen, prolactin-blocker. Just my opinion. Hopefully guys with more knowledge chime in.
Forget about PT-141, forget about passion rx, cialis, viagra, etc. Those will be temporary fixes for a night or something. There is a way deeper issue here that you need to take care of, and that is done in a different way. It would be good to have Nelson's opinion here, he has experience with HRT.
Like I said, again, I am no expert on this, but my common sense tells me that it would be a good idea to run an agressive PCT? consisting in HMG maybe with HCG, an anti-estrogen, prolactin-blocker. Just my opinion. Hopefully guys with more knowledge chime in.
Time to get back to basics and simplicity:
- Cut your test in half ... 50 mg. Are you sure you have the real deal and not some fake?
- Get all other sups out of your intake... other drugs, whey, anything. You don't even need adex or other gyno preventor.
- Double check your diet for a simple balanced 4 meals with a simple multi-vit.
- Plan a simple, light workout routine with a bit more recovery.
- No getting high or heavy drinking.
Set your mate down and tell her that you are doing all this. Profess your love and reassure her as an attractive person. Ask her to just ride this out with you. There is something in your system that must slowly die out.
Find a new sexual release for you and her to do that satisfies her with orgasm but does not put any pressure on you to perform. Find something new to fill your mind with.
Relax and do this for 90 days. Don't even think about it anymore. You'll suddenly recover.
- Cut your test in half ... 50 mg. Are you sure you have the real deal and not some fake?
- Get all other sups out of your intake... other drugs, whey, anything. You don't even need adex or other gyno preventor.
- Double check your diet for a simple balanced 4 meals with a simple multi-vit.
- Plan a simple, light workout routine with a bit more recovery.
- No getting high or heavy drinking.
Set your mate down and tell her that you are doing all this. Profess your love and reassure her as an attractive person. Ask her to just ride this out with you. There is something in your system that must slowly die out.
Find a new sexual release for you and her to do that satisfies her with orgasm but does not put any pressure on you to perform. Find something new to fill your mind with.
Relax and do this for 90 days. Don't even think about it anymore. You'll suddenly recover.
I have to say this .....were you fuckn crazy dude????
6 months on M1T????lol
Im suprised you still have a dick...M1T is sooo bad I dont know how else to put it.
What I would do is first start lowering your prolactin and estrogen for 4-6 weeks. THen just take your 100mg of test a week and see how it works but dont take anything else.
My opinion is that your body is stuck with the wrong ratio of estrogen and prolactin and most likely progesterone as well. LH will not fix your issues either you already taking test. Prolactin if it;s high will create a lot of problems for you...so just spend the cash and buy some aromasin and dostinex. Dont bother with doctors they will not be able to help you
Dostinex .5mg x2/week
aromasin 25mg /week
4-6 weeks then stop and just take 100mg of test weekly and let you body build up the estrogen and prolactin back up and stay away from M1T, deca or tren
Dude I hate to be in your wife's shoes...wish you the best
you will be back to normal just have to shock your body a bit and suffer few more weeks
Let us know how it went
6 months on M1T????lol
Im suprised you still have a dick...M1T is sooo bad I dont know how else to put it.
What I would do is first start lowering your prolactin and estrogen for 4-6 weeks. THen just take your 100mg of test a week and see how it works but dont take anything else.
My opinion is that your body is stuck with the wrong ratio of estrogen and prolactin and most likely progesterone as well. LH will not fix your issues either you already taking test. Prolactin if it;s high will create a lot of problems for you...so just spend the cash and buy some aromasin and dostinex. Dont bother with doctors they will not be able to help you
Dostinex .5mg x2/week
aromasin 25mg /week
4-6 weeks then stop and just take 100mg of test weekly and let you body build up the estrogen and prolactin back up and stay away from M1T, deca or tren
Dude I hate to be in your wife's shoes...wish you the best
you will be back to normal just have to shock your body a bit and suffer few more weeks
Let us know how it went
