I just thought it was weird that I should be addressed on the forum and asked to give a PM. It seemed sort of "spammy." If you wanted to talk to me privetely, why not PM me?
Anyway, I have heard about this stuff but never really pursued it because I knew of no place that had it available. There are others like it. There are all sorts of exotic herbs that have interesting folklore claims connected to it. Many are proving to be effective. We're really only scratching the surface with this. For a while, herbs were discounted because some of them were proven bogus. Also, people may not realize that Bill Phillips had a lot to do with discouraging herbal therapy in bodybuilding in an effort to discourage sales of his biggest competition ("Hot Stuff") which was booming at the time. He called the use of herbs "voodoo" and that people need to be more scientific and use MetRx -- which he owned one third of at the time.
BTW: there was another test on the hibicus herb that also showed an increase in estrodiol, so who knows? I'd be interested in seeing more studies.
So, anarchist, do you have some?