More bloodwork round 2, totally shut down

[makaveli25]

ive been having alot of trouble too thats why im getting upset at some of these threads.. i did a six month cycle!!!! ridicolous and dumb i know... i had a shitload of gear and didn;t keep track of the calander i just ran it until all of my gear was gone.. i know it was a mistake... ill lay out my cycle

1-10 600mg of equipose ( blood pressure got bad soo i dropped the equipose.)
1-5 winstrol 50mged (also dropped this do to joint problems)
testosterone enanthate 1-12 750mgs
testosterone enanthate 12-22 500mg
test p 23-25 100mg eod
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius eod 22-25
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - 1-4 aromasin 12.5 mg ed
clomid 1-4 50mg ed
dermacrine orginal 1-4
4-8dermacrine sustain

i know i should have used regular dermacrine for 1-4 now...

this PCT - post cycle therapy - problably would have worked if i didn;t stay on for six fucken months..

my two options:

1000ius 0f HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - eod (or 500ius up in the air) 1-4
aifm 2 pumps ed 1-6
provirion 25-50mg ed 1-6
clomid 100mg 1-2 50mg 3-6
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ed
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

wait a few weeks get blood work..

i dont feel that im completely shutdown lifts havent gone down that much weight is still up.. mood is stabilized prob cause of derma sustain... im having libibido issues though.. ive been off for 11 weeks...

my other option is too run 16 weeks cycles and then bridge with product like dermicrine original and do this till im old enough for hrt..(which scares me) im not gonna give up anabolic androgenic steroids.. its a huge part of my life.. i went from 175pounds to 205 pound over the last 2 years..

i didn;t mean to offend nelson or neone else its my own fault for using for soo long..i have leanred alot but i stayed on way too long

 

[Tatyana]

Mackavelli,

Didn't you use insulin as well?

 

[tical]

Okay. What you need to do, is go see an endocrinologist. Bottom line. Go see the doc and see what he says. Then report back and so others can see as well.

i have an appointment on jan 9th, that was the earliest he could get me in... thats like 3 weeks from now

do i wait this out? or hop on PCT as soon as i can get my hands on some HCG?

 

[makaveli25]

Mackavelli,

Didn't you use insulin as well?

yes i did which i wont again.. i used a very light dose though 5-7 ius only on workout days for about 2 weeks.. thats it..

 

[needtogetaas]

ive been having alot of trouble too thats why im getting upset at some of these threads.. i did a six month cycle!!!! ridicolous and dumb i know... i had a shitload of gear and didn;t keep track of the calander i just ran it until all of my gear was gone.. i know it was a mistake... ill lay out my cycle

1-10 600mg of equipose ( blood pressure got bad soo i dropped the equipose.)
1-5 winstrol 50mged (also dropped this do to joint problems)
testosterone enanthate 1-12 750mgs
testosterone enanthate 12-22 500mg
test p 23-25 100mg eod
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius eod 22-25
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - 1-4 aromasin 12.5 mg ed
clomid 1-4 50mg ed
dermacrine orginal 1-4
4-8dermacrine sustain

i know i should have used regular dermacrine for 1-4 now...

this PCT - post cycle therapy - problably would have worked if i didn;t stay on for six fucken months..

my two options:

1000ius 0f HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - eod (or 500ius up in the air) 1-4
aifm 2 pumps ed 1-6
provirion 25-50mg ed 1-6
clomid 100mg 1-2 50mg 3-6
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ed
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

wait a few weeks get blood work..

i dont feel that im completely shutdown lifts havent gone down that much weight is still up.. mood is stabilized prob cause of derma sustain... im having libibido issues though.. ive been off for 11 weeks...

my other option is too run 16 weeks cycles and then bridge with product like dermicrine original and do this till im old enough for hrt..(which scares me) im not gonna give up anabolic androgenic steroids.. its a huge part of my life.. i went from 175pounds to 205 pound over the last 2 years..

i didn;t mean to offend nelson or neone else its my own fault for using for soo long..i have leanred alot but i stayed on way too long

OOOOOOOOPPPPPPs I ment that post to be fore tical. I wanted him to answer
the questions. fuck it though I will take a look at yours as well and think on it.

 

[HAYEZ]

hcg gets the testes back to size but it also suppresses you nat test...i dont know why people ignore this fact and use it during pct...
what i would do is 500iu of hcg every day until you see them back up to size.
i would take nolva 60mg ed first week then 40mg ed for 3 weeks. then id prob get your tests again a few days after the nolva clears your system and see where your at

 

[Varga]

You might need 2-3 P C Ts to recover, bro!
What is important is to keep lifting heavy right after the cycle. That will stimulate many hormons in your body. Even though you feel like shit make an attempt to go to the gym and lift. Eat plenty of food as well-high protein!
Start doing cardio as well


As for the best course of action in regards to what compounds to use is up to you what to do and who to believe.

 

[needtogetaas]

ive been having alot of trouble too thats why im getting upset at some of these threads.. i did a six month cycle!!!! ridicolous and dumb i know... i had a shitload of gear and didn;t keep track of the calander i just ran it until all of my gear was gone.. i know it was a mistake... ill lay out my cycle

1-10 600mg of equipose ( blood pressure got bad soo i dropped the equipose.)
1-5 winstrol 50mged (also dropped this do to joint problems)
testosterone enanthate 1-12 750mgs
testosterone enanthate 12-22 500mg
test p 23-25 100mg eod
HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - 500ius eod 22-25
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

PCT - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - - post cycle therapy - 1-4 aromasin 12.5 mg ed
clomid 1-4 50mg ed
dermacrine orginal 1-4
4-8dermacrine sustain

i know i should have used regular dermacrine for 1-4 now...

this PCT - post cycle therapy - problably would have worked if i didn;t stay on for six fucken months..

my two options:

1000ius 0f HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - eod (or 500ius up in the air) 1-4
aifm 2 pumps ed 1-6
provirion 25-50mg ed 1-6
clomid 100mg 1-2 50mg 3-6
Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 20mg ed
igf-1 1-4 50mcg 5 0n 2 0ff

wait a few weeks get blood work..

i dont feel that im completely shutdown lifts havent gone down that much weight is still up.. mood is stabilized prob cause of derma sustain... im having libibido issues though.. ive been off for 11 weeks...

my other option is too run 16 weeks cycles and then bridge with product like dermicrine original and do this till im old enough for hrt..(which scares me) im not gonna give up anabolic androgenic steroids.. its a huge part of my life.. i went from 175pounds to 205 pound over the last 2 years..

i didn;t mean to offend nelson or neone else its my own fault for using for soo long..i have leanred alot but i stayed on way too long

fucking shit bro. damn lol. you just went all fucking otu on the long ass cycle.
ya I think that pct would have worked great if you were talking about even a 16 week cycle depending on how much but shit 25 weeks thats so damn long.
also I would have adviced you to run the hcg threw out that whole cycle at a low dose 500ui's ew. That might have helped a lot. Its good to see were your anger has been coming from though. At least we know its not dermacrine sustains fault. Hell you used clomid to, and hcg.


But any way here we are,or rather here you are with a problem. Lets see if we can fix it. I for one think you will recover bro. Its going to take time though.

 

[Tatyana]

yes i did which i wont again.. i used a very light dose though 5-7 ius only on workout days for about 2 weeks.. thats it..

What had you change your mind hun?

 

[Varga]

HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - gets the testes back to size but it also suppresses you nat test...i dont know why people ignore this fact and use it during PCT - post cycle therapy - ...
what i would do is 500iu of HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - every day until you see them back up to size.
i would take Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - 60mg ed first week then 40mg ed for 3 weeks. then id prob get your tests again a few days after the Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - clears your system and see where your at

True,