Mac vs Vista 32/64-bit

[SaladFork]

vista is the worst prgram ive ever run

I have never had an issue with 32bit versions and been running it since it was beta. What problems did you have?

 

[wootoom]

I have never had an issue with 32bit versions and been running it since it was beta. What problems did you have?

i have a toshiba satellite and its slower then the second comin of christ

 

[Razorguns]

I just built two machines from parts I got from newegg that were close to this spec - it came in at $400, only diffs were 320gig hd, and 3 gig of ram.

are you serious????

i went to best buy, and since the display models do'nt have what i want - they'd have to custom build it. 4gb, nvidia 8600, dvi+hdmi, 750gb, hp 9xxxx model with intel dual quad 2.6, br writer (i know, the early ones suck but it allows me to play with it until better ones comes out). $150 2 yr service contract.

Came out with tax to around $1800.

I'd tell them to think about it. I just like the HP brand with media storage slot, front a/v slots and hp warranty. I'm gonna try hp.com

r

 

[mrplunkey]

Argh!

I wanna buy a new computer. Rendering, editing, visual fx, 3d modelling, reading tmz.com, all that good shit.

But every Windows computer has that stupid fucking 3 GIG limit. And Vista by everyone's account - sucks balls. Ugly ass orb, ugly black taskbar, unstable apps.

And 64-bit Vista? No 64-bit apps, and it's even more unstable.

XP 32/64? Same limits. But more stable. And more prone to viruses, spyware and all the bullshit.

So EVERYONE I know, who does any video or graphic design for a living - buys Macs.

I may have to bite the bullet. But I don't want to. For one I have to rebuy f'n Adobe Production Premium CS3 for $2g's. Then, knowing my luck - MS will release a service pack the next day.

I talked to a IT friend who works for a HW company. He says the PC industry is PISSED like fuck at MS for dropping the ball on the Vista POS. Corporations aren't upgrading. Consumers aren't buying PC's. Xmas time, they still can only pump out 3GB computers. So no reason to upgrade. And software developers are pissed, cuz they can't build more powerful ram-hungry machines.

And best buy/cc - all acknowledge - their mac sales are rising every month. They're devoting more and more space each month to mac products. Go take a look.

MS sure dropped the ball. It's crisis mode in the industry if you read those pc mags.

What do you think will happen? Will MS finally figured out a service pack to fix Vista and use more memory? Free upgrade to 64-bit Vista to compete with Mac? The end of MS's dominance?

I'm holding off purchasing. I ain't buying some shitty 64-bit Vista with 8 gigs, only to spend 50% of my time fixing crashes on FX renders.

Comments? What are you polks running?

r

I've been a die-hard engineer since 1985... started nerd-level computing (TRS-80) in 1978. Until 2006, I was one of those PC-worshippers who felt that the MS/Intel architecture would someday rule the world and that Macs were for artsy people who aren't hardcore enough to use a real computer.

That's before I finally gave-in and bought my daughter a Mac in 2006. I've spent time with Unix, Linux, VMS too, so when I saw that "console" icon in one of her folders, I clicked on it -- and holy shit! There's real Unix in there!

So no wonder its so stable, easy to update, secure, etc. etc. Hell, there's a full-blown Unix box in there.

Mac versus PC? Not even a fair comparison. I looooooove my Macs. Now I'll still buy PC's for my kids to game on, but those are dedicated Falcon Northwest machines with four stacked video cards, blah blah. For real work and day-to-day use, its Mac all the way.

Awww shit. This makes me want to go get a "Thinner" now. I've got a perfectly good Macbook Pro too. But is sooooo thin! I'm talking thinner than Pick3's dick. Wait now... prolly not *that* thin. But still... it's thin!

 

[jnuts]

You don't need a mongo video card for basic NLE. After effects will get some game from a good card using open gl, but I'm not sold on the need for a high end video card.

I'll PM you the build I put together.

 

[KickNitRight]

they make office for macs. I use both at this point, like the macs a whole lot more though

 

[jnuts]

I've been a die-hard engineer since 1985... started nerd-level computing (TRS-80) in 1978.

But did have a Sinclair ZX-80... with the expansion memory?

 

[Razorguns]

yeah for AE and other FX programs, RAM is the most important part. In some circumstances - many turn OFF opengl cuz it actually slows things down!

i'm sold on macs. But for now - i gotta go w/a high-end pc until I'm finished my current project. I just don't have the time to do a complete upheaval of my entire production workflow. Kinda one of those bittersweet decisons.

r

 

[digger]

But did have a Sinclair ZX-80... with the expansion memory?

Heh. Yep, for about a month, before I got an Atari 400. It was incredible, unheard of, being able to dial up work (with a 300 baud modem!) and not have to come in to fix a midnight problem.

I read once that IBM came thisclose to buying the Atari 800 to be the original IBM PC, and that would have rocked. It was a hell of a box for the 8-bit era.

Then the Atari team's philosophy of custom co-processors led to the incredible Amiga, while Jack Tramiel took over Atari and built the Atari ST as the logical low-ball successor to the Commodore 64. That was like watching the movie Face-Off.

Remember going to a computer store and having to be careful which shelf you picked your software from? Of course, that's just like going to the videogame store today. It got kind of dull there for a while when everything was PC only.

Extra credit: Remember using a paper punch on a 5 1/4" floppy?

 

[jnuts]

Extra credit: Remember using a paper punch on a 5 1/4" floppy?

Yeah, I forgot about that! Make it double sided. LMAO.

300 baud optical coupler modems. High speed, baby.

Then xmodem, ymodem, zmodem, kermit, and a couple of others I don't remember for protocols.