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Stew,
Let us know how the Milk Thistle and Evening Primrose work for you, good luck pal.
Let us know how the Milk Thistle and Evening Primrose work for you, good luck pal.
Just found another site discussing liver enzyme elevation due to testosterone replacement therapy. According to the author, "By convention, doctors will stop medications if liver enzymes approach three times normal - just as a precaution." I'm not sure how applicable this is to your situation since these are levels for patients who are "on" continuously and are expected to be elevated. High levels when you are off are probably cause for greater concern. If you worked out the day of the test, though, that could account for the high SGOT by itself. I think the author was Walter Jekot. I dunno anything about him.
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My "A/G" ratio was also out of range. It was 2.2H
Normal is 1.0-2.0
The reason is that my globulin levels are low (antibodies)... that's weird cause I never get sick...
SGPT and SGOT normal ranges that I listed above were what was printed on the results from the blood test.
SGOT: "An enzyme found in skeletal and heart muscle, liver and other organs. Abnormalties may represent liver or heart damage."
I'm going to set up an apointment to get this checked out tommorrow. I am not going to start my cycle till everthing checks out. I could have heart trouble... who knows.
Also, the "BUN" level was abnormaly high. BUN is an indicator of Urea Nitrogen. "A by-product of protein metabolism eliminated through the kidneys. An indicator of kidney function."
I don't know if a high bun is good or bad... its abnormally high. Maybe that just means I am consuming a lot of protein (only 200g/day usually).
THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A BLOOD TEST. NEVER START A CYCLE WITHOUT ONE. Case in point.
lets bump this.
BTW, the test was covered under my insurance plan. They cover one per year. Otherwise, it costs about $70 including the doctor visit.
-Stew
Normal is 1.0-2.0
The reason is that my globulin levels are low (antibodies)... that's weird cause I never get sick...
SGPT and SGOT normal ranges that I listed above were what was printed on the results from the blood test.
SGOT: "An enzyme found in skeletal and heart muscle, liver and other organs. Abnormalties may represent liver or heart damage."
I'm going to set up an apointment to get this checked out tommorrow. I am not going to start my cycle till everthing checks out. I could have heart trouble... who knows.
Also, the "BUN" level was abnormaly high. BUN is an indicator of Urea Nitrogen. "A by-product of protein metabolism eliminated through the kidneys. An indicator of kidney function."
I don't know if a high bun is good or bad... its abnormally high. Maybe that just means I am consuming a lot of protein (only 200g/day usually).
THIS IS THE IMPORTANCE OF A BLOOD TEST. NEVER START A CYCLE WITHOUT ONE. Case in point.
lets bump this.
BTW, the test was covered under my insurance plan. They cover one per year. Otherwise, it costs about $70 including the doctor visit.
-Stew
Doctors report what they damn well feel like...
Doctors can report anything they find "improper" as they say. A doctor finds a "suspicious" cut on a 10 year old and they contact cps. They are LIBEL by law to report incidents of human endangerment, wether it be yourself or another.
Stew - I'd hit the store shelf remedies and just chill for awhile. Let the guy heal.
rxderrick
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"Liver alone! Get it? Liv-her Alone!" -Scream (The original)
Doctors can report anything they find "improper" as they say. A doctor finds a "suspicious" cut on a 10 year old and they contact cps. They are LIBEL by law to report incidents of human endangerment, wether it be yourself or another.
Stew - I'd hit the store shelf remedies and just chill for awhile. Let the guy heal.
rxderrick
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"Liver alone! Get it? Liv-her Alone!" -Scream (The original)
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Stew Meat
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http://www.directlab.com/order.html
Everyone should include this as a part of his cycle.
Play smart or don't play.
-Stew
Everyone should include this as a part of his cycle.
Play smart or don't play.
-Stew
Hey Stew, I would hold off on the cycle till it comes down a little or if you start leave out the D-Bol like Huck said. Have you used E2 liver protection method ? I look it up and see if I can find it if you don't already have it. Best of luck my friend 
M18
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hey stew did you train the day before the test? i'm asking you that case if you didn't take at least 2 days of total rest the values could be strongly influenced. Having this said exact thing happened to me. I had sgot 77 and sgpt 43. I think it is from the continuos use of eca i had done previously, my doctors told me ephedrine goes through the liver causeit is a metha-anphetamine and it can do that. I started my cycle of test eq primo anyway, got tested 4 weeks after and my values were back just on the upper limit. I suggest you drop ephedrine/clen, take a few days off trainig and repet again.
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Big Johnson
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DANG STEW, THAT DOES SUCK. I THINK LIVER SUPPS AND A COUPLE WEEKS SHOULD DO THE TRICK. I'M SURE IT'LL WORK OUT FOR YOU.
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