just had sperm count done-UH oh!!!

[Sigmund Roid]

I thought I read on here somewhere that there was a medical study done in Europe recently that found supplimenting test is more effective for birth control then the pill for women. It quoted 99% effective as compared to the pill at 97%. If that's true you're doing a great job at killing your baby batter.

Not true, it only works when also a strong progesteric compound is used.

 

[The Terminator]

Not true, it only works when also a strong progesteric compound is used.

Even that is flawed...
Of the 3 guys I posted about earlier 2 of them were on Tren and and one was on Tren AND Deca

I was the only one NOT taking any kind of progesterone based drug

 

[Sigmund Roid]

I don't mean tren or deca as progesteric. I mean depo-provera, methylprogesterone etc.

 

[The Terminator]

I don't mean tren or deca as progesteric. I mean depo-provera, methylprogesterone etc.

lol, who here is going to be taking any of those items ?

 

[athlete.03]

actually all of them except the GH. Obviously test is shutting down your natty levels which is inturn lowering your lydigs. A man needs a certain amount of estrogen and the ldex may have it to low and causing imbalances. Again with the var its just another variable which should be out.

If i were you i would drop everything except 200mg test for 3 weeks. Durring that time take 500iu hcg eod. At the end of the 3rd week drop the test and start 20mg nolvadex ed and 50mg clomid ed. Do that for 4 weeks and then you should be ready to go.

Why should he quit GH?

 

[DIVISION]

I thought I read on here somewhere that there was a medical study done in Europe recently that found supplimenting test is more effective for birth control then the pill for women.

They are considering that here in America as well. It's scary how much it kills sperm counts.....




DIV

 

[Sigmund Roid]

lol, who here is going to be taking any of those items ?

I agree, you are shut down totally and it takes a long time to recover from that. No sane man wants to have noodle problems for a year after stopping male b/c.

 

[Daisy_Girl]

Why are you on AAS when you are trying to get PG? This alone is the stupidest idea ever. Does your wife know?

Recovery could take months.

Good luck to you - hope it all works out for you.

 

[Dial_tone]

A pill containing synthetic testosterone and progestin taken by men in a clinical trial conducted in Italy showed evidence of lowering males' sperm counts to very low levels (below 3 million sperm per milliliter of ejaculate). Half of the participants had sperm counts of zero after taking this pill. It was also demonstrated to cause few undesirable side effects. In another type of research study, testosterone injections were administered in conjunction with combined progestin and testosterone pills. This was shown to be more effective than use of testosterone injections alone.

Either way, this extra surge of testosterone is designed to interfere with a complex sequence of hormonal reactions that begin in the brain and end in the testes, resulting in sperm production. To get more technical, this extra dose of testosterone withholds the amount of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) secreted by the hypothalamus in the brain. GnRH stimulates the release of hormones called gonadotropins from the pituitary gland, which is also in the brain. Gonadotropins are hormones essential in signaling the testes to produce sperm. So, the suppression of GnRH ultimately results in preventing sperm production in the male and, as a result, helps to prevent pregnancy in the woman partner.

Maximum contraceptive effectiveness, however, was not possible right away for any of the above mentioned combinations because it can take as much as 2 to 3 months for sperm counts to reach very low levels. This translates into a need for men or couples to plan in advance. In addition, the studies that involved a weekly injection schedule were shown to be particularly impractical. Because of this, other ways to improve the use and effectiveness of new male contraceptives are being investigated, including longer-acting male contraception that can deliver testosterone for 2 to 3 months. Also in development are testosterone-derivative implants and a vaccine that would be designed to prevent pregnancy for up to a year.

http://www.goaskalice.columbia.edu/1948.html

 

[digimon7068]

trying to get pregnant- on gh-adex-enth-var

is this suppressing my sperm counts-they want me to go for a million tests????

The test and the var for sure. . .don't know about the other stuff. Also, it will be atleast 90 days after everything has cleared your system before you're going to see any appreciable, positive changes in count and/or motility. . .even with clomid. Bottom line. . .if you are really trying to get pregnant, get off and plan on staying off. . .probably for quite a while too.