i agree suppression cannot be avoided when using. i didnt say it could be. my point is simply that by using proper techniques some of the inhibition can be avoided and recovery made easier. i dont think this is talked about enough. and concerning the bashing of Bill Roberts and Cy Wilson. instead of simply ranting about what idiots they are. why dont you state some facts in your responses to demonstrate it. i think they have added alot to the steroid community through research. i wonder if they think your an idiot?