It's time to recover, I'm shutdown????

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So the only question is that my boys took a hit this long cycle and wood is not doing well at all so I'm running 15,000iu of HCG for 2.5mths and Clomid for as long as I think I need it.
But I was thinking of taking a low dose of Test maybe 200-300mg/wk , (sust or enath) for 2-3mths to help my body recover and not crash to hard if at all, is this a good idea?????


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P.S. Karma for all

 

[Canuck4]

I dont think the Test is gonna help in the recovery part bro.
It will probably suppress you more.
Just run the HCG with some Nolva and clomid.

 

[oubeta]

that wouldn't help you recover, I think it would make things worse off. Hit the HCG and the clomid and try some MACA. If that doesn't work you may need a low dose of test (script) to maintain..

 

[Zyglamail]

So the only question is that my boys took a hit this long cycle and wood is not doing well at all so I'm running 15,000iu of HCG for 2.5mths and Clomid for as long as I think I need it.
But I was thinking of taking a low dose of Test maybe 200-300mg/wk , (sust or enath) for 2-3mths to help my body recover and not crash to hard if at all, is this a good idea?????


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P.S. Karma for all

UGH! What you need to do to recover is lay off the stuff. Its obvious you dont quite have a grasp of what your doing. HCG mimics out own LH so while you are taking it in externally your system wont produce any of its own. Your balls may be making test, but your LH production will be shut down so you will be trading one for the other. HCG will work best at the tail end of a cycle while androgen levels are high and then only to reverse atrophy. The best solution is to give your body time to recover.

 

[drago01]

i have read articles(i think by cy wilson) about low doses of dbol taken first thing in the morning helping in this scenario. like maybe just 5 or 10mgs. i'll post a link if i can find it. one of the posts above had it right. you shouldnt have been taking anything if you've gotten to this point. poor ancillary protcol while "on" leads to this problem. i like running HCG at 500i.u.'s on an every weekend regimen throughout androgenic cycles. this allows for easier recovery since the testicles never experience atrophy. this is in addition to anti-e's throughout and clomid post.

 

[Zyglamail]

i have read articles(i think by cy wilson) about low doses of dbol taken first thing in the morning helping in this scenario. like maybe just 5 or 10mgs. i'll post a link if i can find it. one of the posts above had it right. you shouldnt have been taking anything if you've gotten to this point. poor ancillary protcol while "on" leads to this problem. i like running HCG at 500i.u.'s on an every weekend regimen throughout androgenic cycles. this allows for easier recovery since the testicles never experience atrophy. this is in addition to anti-e's throughout and clomid post.

Androgel, dbol or what have you doesnt really bring anything back, it simply acts as a buffer to androgen levels as your system recovers.

Shutdown is almost inevitable weather you use anti-e's, HCG etc during a cycle. Certain things can aid in recovery but nothing will truely MAKE you recover but time.

 

[muscleup]

Androgel, dbol or what have you doesnt really bring anything back, it simply acts as a buffer to androgen levels as your system recovers.

Shutdown is almost inevitable weather you use anti-e's, HCG etc during a cycle. Certain things can aid in recovery but nothing will truely MAKE you recover but time.

I agree... but things such as arimidex,hcg and clomid should speed the recovery process up considerably correct???

 

[manny78]

Proviron might help you on the libido aspect.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Zyg is 100% correct. But few people want to hear the truth.

Cy Wilson. What a buffoon. He's proof that the industry can take anybody with a few letters after their name and turn them into experts. Wilson is a second rate Bill Roberts which makes him a forth rate scientist.

 

[satchboogie]

Nelson..

i'm waiting for you to recommend the dude some clomid. j/k

good to see you posting again brother.

 

[rodman]

i have to agree with zygla on his advice. time heals all, and i wouldn't run hcg for that long of a time either. i'm sure that you are eager to get things back and running, unfortunately, that can be the worst part of the whole thing sometimes....good luck...

 

[drago01]

i agree suppression cannot be avoided when using. i didnt say it could be. my point is simply that by using proper techniques some of the inhibition can be avoided and recovery made easier. i dont think this is talked about enough. and concerning the bashing of Bill Roberts and Cy Wilson. instead of simply ranting about what idiots they are. why dont you state some facts in your responses to demonstrate it. i think they have added alot to the steroid community through research. i wonder if they think your an idiot?

 

[HUGHJORGEN]

Look Zyg is right- PURE AND SIMPLE.

Taking HCG for that lenght of time WILL shut down LH production, so once you come off that you will make no LH, and so no test, which would be the opposite of what your trying to do.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i agree suppression cannot be avoided when using. i didnt say it could be. my point is simply that by using proper techniques some of the inhibition can be avoided and recovery made easier. i dont think this is talked about enough. and concerning the bashing of Bill Roberts and Cy Wilson. instead of simply ranting about what idiots they are. why dont you state some facts in your responses to demonstrate it. i think they have added alot to the steroid community through research. i wonder if they think your an idiot?

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Oh, I'm sure they do -- because I'm not as knowledgable in the science of steroids. I admit that. But that's the problem with guys like BR and CW. They think because they have an understanding of the science, they know it all and go about doling out really bad advice. I'll take common sense over bad information any day. I don't care if the bad information is based on scince or not. Wrong is wrong. And if someone says that Androgel or daytime d-bol will help restore the HPTA, they're wrong. Not to mention, it's just plain dumb.

 

[Wrongun]

IMO complete Clomid therapy and then allow time for body to fully recover however long that is

Wrongun!