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Is it possible to work out of a depression without meds?

Behemoth said:
I wasnt refering to the minor sides...

There are some pretty significant side effects that can alter your world.

My kid was taking Abilify. We had to take him to a med appointment to get his scrips filled and this young doctor felt that he was onto much medication. He took him off it. We went through hell for 4 months with this kid until his PCP saw that he was on Abilify in the past and thought it might be a good thing to put him back on it. He leveled right out.

They had my little girl on 6 tabs of clonidine a day for her ADHD. She slept all of the time. We took her off clonidine and she is fine. A/B Honor roll and no problems in school.

My point is these are mood altering drugs and some sides are as serious as "new feelings of depression" and isolated cases suicidal tendencies.

Now of course the majority of us on EF have our own set of issues! But I sure as hell dont want any new ones.

These meds arent something to be played with...not like taking to many ibuprofen.
well, they're no more toxic than D-bol. i can't believe this issue is being brought up. people will sacrifice erectile dysfunction, aggrevating latent cancer cells, throwing off the entire bodys endocrine system for a decent physique, but be overly cautious about taking a psych med. lol.
 
Oh i hear ya. I had a friend popping like 7 buspar in a day. Im like....you realize your gonna be feeling the effects of that for weeks. Your levels will be all out of whack.

I know my 14yr old needs to be put on meds and Im scared she wont take them everyday and get fucked up.
 
HumanTarget said:
well, they're no more toxic than D-bol. i can't believe this issue is being brought up. people will sacrifice erectile dysfunction, aggrevating latent cancer cells, throwing off the entire bodys endocrine system for a decent physique, but be overly cautious about taking a psych med. lol.

My mother doesnt want to take statins and bp meds? Its like, you will die if you dont. Not to mention she should be on prozac......Its fucked up that there is medication out there to help you, but people dont want to take it, yet they sit in of Friday nite and drink rum and coke after rum and coke.
 
galaxy said:
Oh i hear ya. I had a friend popping like 7 buspar in a day. Im like....you realize your gonna be feeling the effects of that for weeks. Your levels will be all out of whack.

I know my 14yr old needs to be put on meds and Im scared she wont take them everyday and get fucked up.
sometimes the good outweighs the bad. there isn't a cure for a lot of the illnesses out there. but that doesn't mean that they can't still lead a normal life. but it's your call. just like possibly having to sign papers to make her a ward of the state one day. it is up to you. i work with people that haven't spoken to their families in 20 years. because they are that fucked up. there is no right or wrong answer. this type of shit can break a man.
 
HumanTarget said:
well, they're no more toxic than D-bol. i can't believe this issue is being brought up. people will sacrifice erectile dysfunction, aggrevating latent cancer cells, throwing off the entire bodys endocrine system for a decent physique, but be overly cautious about taking a psych med. lol.

Like I said...I have my own set of issues. :worried:

But at the same time...everyone on the anabolics forum encourages research...and maybe thats what I am trying to encourage.

Just some homework.

I had one of my employees give me a few tabs of Lunesta. I only sleep about 5 hours a day if that. It worked great. Knock me right on my ass. But after about three days. Pulling up a chair and crying for a few hours. I did a little research and one of the sides of lunesta is "new feelings of depression" ... I slept great but felt like crap. It cleared up after a couple of days of being off of them.
 
Well she mentioned she wants to go to a private school in the are both me and her mom work so that will work out good. I was actually going to suggest it. Gonna cost $700 a month but its worth it if it keeps her outa trouble.
 
galaxy said:
My mother doesnt want to take statins and bp meds? Its like, you will die if you dont. Not to mention she should be on prozac......Its fucked up that there is medication out there to help you, but people dont want to take it, yet they sit in of Friday nite and drink rum and coke after rum and coke.
i take about 5-6 meds per day, on top of my test & whatever oral i run. i think the most important factor in someones mental health is self awareness. if you notice it, you've got a damn good chance of overcoming it. that's why i'm glad BRR is asking this question, because he's aware. if you're unaware, you're going to run roughshod over everyone in your path and only wind up alienating yourself further. and there is no worse thing in the world than isolation.....
 
galaxy said:
Ablify is supposed to help with Bi polar issues.

I use 40mgs of Lexapro to help me deal with anger, repetitive thoughts, and OCD.

I think there giving me estro issues also and making me a lil bit weaker.

does lexapro really causes estrogen issues?
 
Well I never had the issues Im having now. I mean its just a lil puffiness. Just never had to use AI's this low a dose. Of course about 3 times a week I take some percocet, so that could be the issue also.
 
nimbus said:
does lexapro really causes estrogen issues?
there are lot of different families of psych meds. mood stabilizers, which is the next stop after anti-d's can be real nasty. i'm talking about serious weight gain. like 75-100lbs. now that is a side effect...
 
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