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Is anyone else on juice for medical puposes and also does cycles for BB puposes?
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Stillgoing said:
Yeah, I wish I'd known to look at MY levels in my late 30's. In retrospect I'm almost sure they were low.
I'm like Nelson here: we don't know everything, but I prefer to be a pioneer when it comes to HRT. It's a plain and simple quality of life issue for me.
Studies have shown 200 mgs EOW will bring just about everyone up to snuff. (100 mgs a week would make more sense) Most guys find 200 mgs a week or 50 mgs AndroGel ED to be plenty. You'll actually have higher than normal T , but it's the Free T that counts, so adding some Avena Sativa is a good idea.
The "droop" didn't hit me until I was 47. When I was in my middle 40 I felt no differant than when I was 25. ( A hot girlfriend helps) At 47 my levels were still decent for an "old guy", but decent isn't acceptable, ya know?
HRT won't make you huge, but it helps keep you lean and hard (if you train, of course) which becomes impossible when T gets too low. Sex drive is definetly improved. (I hit it just about every day) Curiously, when I up the dosage, it seems to supress libido a bit.
No need for anti-e's. If you're suseptalbe to excess estrogen some DIM and/or Calcium D Glucarate is all you should need and use.
Contrary to popular thought, the testes still produce some endogenous T and the nuts don't shrink that bad. I recommend a course of HCG every 6 months just to give them a boost.
The "droop" didn't hit me until I was 47. When I was in my middle 40 I felt no differant than when I was 25. ( A hot girlfriend helps) At 47 my levels were still decent for an "old guy", but decent isn't acceptable, ya know?
HRT won't make you huge, but it helps keep you lean and hard (if you train, of course) which becomes impossible when T gets too low. Sex drive is definetly improved. (I hit it just about every day) Curiously, when I up the dosage, it seems to supress libido a bit.
No need for anti-e's. If you're suseptalbe to excess estrogen some DIM and/or Calcium D Glucarate is all you should need and use.
Contrary to popular thought, the testes still produce some endogenous T and the nuts don't shrink that bad. I recommend a course of HCG every 6 months just to give them a boost.
Nothing to add. I just lke this thread. Hate to see it go.
If HCG is administered in several smaller shots. (25 i.u's 4 X's a day for a week.) Gyno shouldn't be a problem. If it is...add some proviron.
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This is a great topic! I suspect many elite bodybuildes are on HRT for obvious reasons. I would like to contribute my experience with this.
I am a doctor, and I have developed a system of HRT that works best for me. I have had about 20 bloodtests to get the dosage right. I am in my early 30s and weigh 242lbs with 5-6%BF at about 6,1. I have been using 100mg of test enanthate every 5 days. I take 0.5mg arimidex on the day I inject, and 0.5mg on the 3rd day. I also take 1.25mg of finasteride ED in addition to ZMA and saw palmetto. I take whey protein (isopure), N-acetly cysteine (NAC), and large amout of green tea extract. This combination of hormones, drugs and supplements was derived from the results of many bloodtests measuring basically everything including liver enzymes, total and free test, estradiol, DHT. I maintain a free test level that is at the "peak" of normal. I have also noticed that eating fish (about 2lbs salmon/day) and doing consistent cardio has given me an excellent lipid profile. Using HRT is a quality of life issue for me, and has allowed me to maintain an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle with extreme vascularity and muscularity. My libido is always very high, and drops if I use a higher dosage of test. I would like to hear how other people have "customized" their HRT.
I am a doctor, and I have developed a system of HRT that works best for me. I have had about 20 bloodtests to get the dosage right. I am in my early 30s and weigh 242lbs with 5-6%BF at about 6,1. I have been using 100mg of test enanthate every 5 days. I take 0.5mg arimidex on the day I inject, and 0.5mg on the 3rd day. I also take 1.25mg of finasteride ED in addition to ZMA and saw palmetto. I take whey protein (isopure), N-acetly cysteine (NAC), and large amout of green tea extract. This combination of hormones, drugs and supplements was derived from the results of many bloodtests measuring basically everything including liver enzymes, total and free test, estradiol, DHT. I maintain a free test level that is at the "peak" of normal. I have also noticed that eating fish (about 2lbs salmon/day) and doing consistent cardio has given me an excellent lipid profile. Using HRT is a quality of life issue for me, and has allowed me to maintain an extra 10-15 lbs of muscle with extreme vascularity and muscularity. My libido is always very high, and drops if I use a higher dosage of test. I would like to hear how other people have "customized" their HRT.
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