I'm watching this 20/20 episode about asexual people/couples

[kyderby]

see, that would turn me on

(listening to the neighbor fucking, not you wearing those earmuffs, just sayin)

Not if they were fat and gross like mine. They already have 5 children. It makes me want to bang on the wall and scream ARE YOU WEARING A CONDOM.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Not if they were fat and gross like mine. They already have 5 children. It makes me want to bang on the wall and scream ARE YOU WEARING A CONDOM.

LOL that's funny I don't care who you are.

 

[Sub-Zero]

You don't HAVE TO COMPETE if you've already captured that person's interest by "just being you."

The day I feel the need to compete with another living being for my husband's attention is the day I file for divorce. When a couple has a baby, of course that dynamic is different but anything other than a child - sorry, you should never *feel the need* to compete.

2 girls in a room of 4 guys. 2 guys will be odd man out.

hard for you to see from your perspective, but next time you are in a room with even one girl and 5 guys, youl notice how most always the guys will stop talking and all pay attention to the girl when shes talking. almost like shes on stage.

thats the kind of competing im refering to.

and even in marriage, you should be competing a little bit. marriage isnt a end all be all. if a hot woman comes up and starts fullfilling Grumpy Old Mans needs, without posting on EF about how he sucks all day, he just may leave you.

 

[Sub-Zero]

I've pretty much given up on caring if I hurt someone's feelings. Unless someone challenges what I said I just let it go and don't justify it as a joke. Gets me in a good deal of trouble but I'm getting too old to care.

I'm the same way if I find myself having to compete for someone's attention I'll just walk off. I am just me if that's not enough to engage someone's attention then I'm better off not dealing with them.

Cheers,
Scotsman

you dont find it a little depressing to leave a trail of hatred and disapproval everywhere you go? sometimes falling into social norms, can be a little bit necessary. making people smile feels good man give it a try

 

[Bikini Mod]

2 girls in a room of 4 guys. 2 guys will be odd man out.

hard for you to see from your perspective, but next time you are in a room with even one girl and 5 guys, youl notice how most always the guys will stop talking and all pay attention to the girl when shes talking. almost like shes on stage.

thats the kind of competing im refering to.

and even in marriage, you should be competing a little bit. marriage isnt a end all be all. if a hot woman comes up and starts fullfilling Grumpy Old Mans needs, without posting on EF about how he sucks all day, he just may leave you.

Nope sorry, that ain't how it works in my world.

First mistake you make is that YOU ASSUME my husband's needs aren't being met. Did the thought ever occur to you that a man *might* have needs that are stronger than just the ONE NEED that an erect penis causes? Maybe his NEED to make his family happy and secure is *this much stronger*?

Would it also shock you to hear that my husband gets GOBS of attention from women CONSTANLTY?!... and I do NOTHING to prevent or interfere with that....EVER?! I also give my husband all the respect he earns and deserves. I also give him plenty of attention. There isn't a man alive that does not know that I am MRS GRUMPY OLD MAN - even when I am pissed, he is STILL MY HUSBAND. I would never disrespect myself by dishonoring my marital vow to be loyal, faithful and dutiful and I will accept no less than what I have to offer.

He knows he is married to me. If I *have to remind him* then we don't NEED to be married. I don't NEED male attention. I get more than enough from my husband. Is it flattering? Yes, but hardly necessary. I don't seek it out. IMHO it is INSULTING TO ME to give any man who is NOT MY HUSBAND more attention than is necessary to be polite. My husband feels the same way so we don't have a problem.

My husband knows that he is free to leave at any time. I am not into control AT ALL. He stays with me because he WANTS TO. If he ever gets to the point where he WANTS to leave, then he is free to do so, as am I.

I made a wise choice THIS TIME round by marrying a man who genuinely LIKES and RESPECTS ME. Do I arouse his desire? Constantly. But my husband understands that it is often very difficult for me to desire sexual pleasure when I KNOW my exhusband is fucking my daughter. Sorry if that sounds naked, ugly, harsh, whathaveyou. But me "sugarcoating" the situation with more delicate verbage won't make the facts any less disgusting.

It's a bitter pill to swallow and I have told my husband many MANY times I don't expect him to stay. He actually gets offended by this (as he feels that the notion he married me *just* for sex is degrading to HIM) and re-states that he married me for better or worse and works WITH ME every day so that we may get to a point in time when "this too shall pass".

If a man can't keep his dick in his pants when his wife is going through an inconceivable crisis that renders her in such a state that she doesn't desire sex as often as he would like then he is beneath her and would do her a great service if he would just up and leave.

just my .02

 

[Scotsman]

the insecurity of you thinking you're too sarcastic to get a woman.

you can control your life... if you wanted a woman, and felt you were too sarcastic or rude or whatever to get one, you'd change.
if, on the other hand, you felt that you didn't deserve a woman, you would not.

personally, i think you'd make a great boyfriend/husband, and I think you'd be a lot nicer than you think.

Or maybe I've just made some objective assessments based on past experience. Also I'm very comfortable with who I am and am not going to change to please anyone else. You either take me as I am or not. All trying to change for someone else does is cause resentment.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Scotsman]

you dont find it a little depressing to leave a trail of hatred and disapproval everywhere you go? sometimes falling into social norms, can be a little bit necessary. making people smile feels good man give it a try

You've got to remember that I'm like a decade older than you are. I realized a long time ago that doing things to make other people happy is pointless if it doesn't make you happy as well. It's very simple if people don't like me they can not be around me. I certainly won't stay around people I don't like. Realizing that you don't fit into social norms is a big step towards self enlightenment (at least it was for me). Trust me the people who like me spend a great deal of time laughing because I do a lot of stupid things. But I don't do it to entertain others I do it to entertain myself. Besides the fewer people who like me means the fewer people I have to deal with.

Cheers,
Scotsman

 

[Bikini Mod]

You've got to remember that I'm like a decade older than you are. I realized a long time ago that doing things to make other people happy is pointless if it doesn't make you happy as well. It's very simple if people don't like me they can not be around me. I certainly won't stay around people I don't like. Realizing that you don't fit into social norms is a big step towards self enlightenment (at least it was for me). Trust me the people who like me spend a great deal of time laughing because I do a lot of stupid things. But I don't do it to entertain others I do it to entertain myself. Besides the fewer people who like me means the fewer people I have to deal with.

Cheers,
Scotsman

I understand what you are saying and I do agree with it. But there is a difference between changing to suit another and personal evolution.

I would NEVER *make* or expect my husband to be anyone other than who he is. I learned through the mistake of my first marriage that one should never expect their partner to change. Second time around I married a man who had quirks/faults/iodosincracies that I could live with. The fact that HE CHOSE to personally evolve was first and foremost to HIS BENEFIT. I merely reap the benefit of that as his partner as he reaps the benefits of my personal evolution.

You gotta do what works for you.

The only thing that we always have total control over is "ourselves"... everything else is up to chance.

 

[Bikini Mod]

OK Subzero... I thought about what you said.

You REALLY think any other woman will be able to meet MY grump's needs? whether it be touching his mind, his heart or his pee-pee? If she can... she is welcome to him.

^^^No brag. Cold, hard FACT... one of the sexiest things about a mature woman is that she knows her worth. If her man can't see it, then he is blind and/or dumb and he best be movin on.

 

[Scotsman]

I understand what you are saying and I do agree with it. But there is a difference between changing to suit another and personal evolution.

I would NEVER *make* or expect my husband to be anyone other than who he is. I learned through the mistake of my first marriage that one should never expect their partner to change. Second time around I married a man who had quirks/faults/iodosincracies that I could live with. The fact that HE CHOSE to personally evolve was first and foremost to HIS BENEFIT. I merely reap the benefit of that as his partner as he reaps the benefits of my personal evolution.

You gotta do what works for you.

The only thing that we always have total control over is "ourselves"... everything else is up to chance.

Anyone who is going to want to be with me is going to have to accept that I say things without thinking (no internal censor). And that I live at least half of my life with one or both feet in my mouth. I rarely do it to intentionally be mean it just comes out that way.

Cheers,
Scotsman