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healother said:UPDATE:
I hungout with her Wednesday night with a couple friends and went to a restaurant,
and then I hungout on Friday night and watched tv and talked at her place.
We mostly just talked about men and women though, which seemed weird.
Anyway, I think I chatted too much with her online in between and sounded too needy though. I showed way too much interest in asking about the guy who kissed her. Also I showed too much interest in asking about why she's single.
Apparently she is single because there is an issue in her life, a personal one, that she needs to resolve, and she wont tell anyone about it. but she has admitted that she also might not wait until its resolved before dating again.
She also likes being single so that she can be uncommitted and have fun (might explain why she kissed 7 guys in the last 2 months) but she also has talked about guys she was interested in but had a certain flaw or something.
Anyway, I think i badgered her too much. I also made the mistake of asking her if she initiates conversation much with other men, and that i didnt think she did it much around me. She explained that she has daddy issues, since her dad was a jerk and now it takes a long time for her to warmup and trust men. Also she said that she is a submissive person by nature and doesnt like to come up with ideas or initiate much of anything.
I said that thats fine, but sometimes its hard to tell if a submissive person really is interested cuz they dont seem to put in much effort. then she said 'so you dont think i put in much effort?' and i basically said yes, and she said "well i cant help the way i am, people are just going to have to deal with that." and then signed off.
this was at 6pm on saturday
I called her later that night at 9:30pm and left a message saying 'hey its Steve, just seeing what u are up to, call me back, later"
and she never called back.
She hasnt signed onto MSN since, but this morning she made a post on her myspace page (she doesnt know that i found her myspace page) that said that she really doesnt like people who lack respect and is sick of peopel who badger her, pry and ask too much about personal stuff, or people who expect her to change for them.
Today she wasnt on MSN at all, which is pretty unusual, meaning that i think she blocked me.
I'm not sure what to do, I need a game plan to be able to make up for the mistakes I made and to win her back. I am thinking about waiting a few days and then calling if i dont see her on MSN, I dont know. I guess I'm not sure what kind of voice message to leave.
Or maybe I could write her an email saying im sorry if i pissed her off, but i dont know if she checks her email, and i dont wanna look desperate.
Apparently one time a guy left her a minute long voice message out of desperation and she thought it was pathetic and never talked to him agian. So yeah, I'm extremely wary about what to say to her now, and how to say it.
And then there is the whole issue of telling her that i like her. im hesitant to do that because she laughs at guys that tell her that too soon. we've only been on 3 dates so i dunno. she has told other men she wants to be single and uncommitted for awhile.
I need some input. I wanna do the best job i possibly can at winning her over.
if it doesnt work out, i will survive, and immediately search the earth for another 27 year old beautiful virgin as cool as her or cooler.
Well it's over before it's begun, sorry but you ruined it already. You missed your chance, you showed desperation and lack of courage, you showed that you don't have the balls to simply ask her out because you dig her. No you sat there and asked her about other men she's kissing and such. She thinks you are a freak now, a pussy wimp freak who is too afraid to simply step up to the plate.
Women don't like desperation and cowardness. Women like honesty and men who aren't afraid to go for what they want. It's why bad boys get the girls, and it's why the nice guys need to be fearless and completely uninhibited to get anywhere.
You blew it, pick a new girl and start over again, better luck next time.
P.S. if you are an alter, kudos for a job well done!
