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How to get rid of that stubborn internal belly fat?!

Glove18

Glove18

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Now im not talking about that regular old cottage cheese external (between muscle and skin) belly roll fat. Im talking about that internal (between ab muscles and organs) toxic belly fat. It seems like whatever i do- Diet, cardio, clen/t3 cycles i do, i can never get rid of that in side fat. It has slimed during the months but not as much as the rest of my body. I can see my 6 pack lines but that bloating look is just discusting and anoying! Its like a hard beer belly i hate it, ppl always assume im ripped up and wanna see that pack, but wat they dont know is like 5%of my BF is from that bloated belly.

Does anyone else have this same problem or had any success stories getting rid of it and how!?. I know i gained most of it during my gf's pregnancy and i took on most of her craving side effects. It was our first time living alone and i opted for fast food alot. But its been almost a year and ive tried so hard and theres still a good abount left. It doesdnt look like fat, more like i have some kinda of stomatch bloating problem and i know im too young for this crap. Any suggestions?
 
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Ever get your cortisol checked? Were you under severe stress at any point?

I went from big and lean, to having a belly that most couldnt see with clothes on and thought I looked lighter, despite being 30lbs heavier!! Come to find out my cortisol was sky high for a period of time, put on tons of belly fat, now on supplemental corisol and starting to lose belly fat.
 
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also Diet plays an important factor,plus you have to expend more calories than you take in, Pm me and i'll help set you on track!


RADAR
 
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did u incorporate a very well calorie-defecit program with your clen/T3 cycles. also, your t3/clen, if u had any success may bounce back bifold. so natural calorie-defecit(but trying to maintain lean proteins) diet
 
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The cortisol is kinda what i was thinking, however i dont know what coulda caused that, dont know much about cortisol. But yes i was under some intense pressure at the time, nearly loosing both my lady & unborn child, not to mention it was my first time moving out on my own and i opted for nothing but fast foods for a period of about 5months.

Durring my cycles i never used any aas. I had a calorie deficit of about 900 aswell and my diet consisted of about 80% protiens.

Thanx btw RADAR ill be Pm'ing u lol.
 
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google "adrenal fatigue" or "adrenal insufficiency", or get the book by James Wilson I think it is....if you google adrenal fatigue and cortisol, you will find plenty of info...
 
Re: How to get rid of that stuburn Internal Belly Fat?!

Glove18 said:
Now im not talking about that regular old cottage cheese external (between muscle and skin) belly roll fat. Im talking about that internal (between ab muscles and organs) toxic belly fat. It seems like whatever i do- Diet, cardio, clen/t3 cycles i do, i can never get rid of that in side fat. It has slimed during the months but not as much as the rest of my body. I can see my 6 pack lines but that bloating look is just discusting and anoying! Its like a hard beer belly i hate it, ppl always assume im ripped up and wanna see that pack, but wat they dont know is like 5%of my BF is from that bloated belly.

Does anyone else have this same problem or had any success stories getting rid of it and how!?. I know i gained most of it during my gf's pregnancy and i took on most of her craving side effects. It was our first time living alone and i opted for fast food alot. But its been almost a year and ive tried so hard and theres still a good abount left. It doesdnt look like fat, more like i have some kinda of stomatch bloating problem and i know im too young for this crap. Any suggestions?
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After diet is strict for a few months,,,you could add some CLENBUTEROL.
It has been noted to burn that stubborn 'brown fat' thats so hard to get rid of.
 
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Glove18 said:
The cortisol is kinda what i was thinking, however i dont know what coulda caused that, dont know much about cortisol. But yes i was under some intense pressure at the time, nearly loosing both my lady & unborn child, not to mention it was my first time moving out on my own and i opted for nothing but fast foods for a period of about 5months.

Durring my cycles i never used any aas. I had a calorie deficit of about 900 aswell and my diet consisted of about 80% protiens.

Thanx btw RADAR ill be Pm'ing u lol.
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I can explain that,
First we have to understand what causes cortisol, stress is the main factor,and what is stressed more during a cycle than the The adrenals , they are walnut-sized glands located on top of each kidney, where they serve as important manufacturing centers for many of the body’s hormones. The innermost section of each gland produces adrenaline and noradrenaline, the hormones named after them. The layers outside the center, called the adrenal cortex, produce several other hormones, including cortisol, as well as DHEA, estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone.

The fundamental task of your adrenal glands is to rally all your body’s resources into “fight or flight” mode by increasing production of adrenaline and cortisol. When healthy, your adrenals can instantly increase your heart rate and blood pressure, release your energy stores for immediate use, slow your digestion and other secondary functions, and sharpen your senses.

Every challenge to the mind and body creates a demand on the adrenal glands. And the list of challenges is endless: lack of sleep, a demanding boss, the threat of losing your job, financial pressures, personality conflicts, yo-yo dieting, relationship turmoil, death or illness of a loved one, skipping meals, reliance on stimulants like caffeine and carbs, digestive problems, over-exercise, illness or infection, unresolved emotional issues from our past or present and more. The result is adrenal glands that are constantly on high alert.

To prevent this you need to get a Start with a high-quality multivitamin–mineral complex rich in stress vitamins, minerals, and essential fatty acids.
Also the addition of DHEA is a good idea.Adding Green leafy vegtables to your diet is required also for healthy adrenal gland function.


RADAR
 
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So basically if cortisol may be the case, then is my belly filled with cortisol? Or is cortisol causing the fat to build up under there? Im still a lil unsure as to what exactly physically cortisal is.

When i was 15yo i chipped small bones in my elbow, the Dr. injected cortisol into the area, he said it latches onto the bone & muscles then hardens (kinda like super glue). The liquid(cortisol) was a very thick white foamy substance(and no it wasnt his sperm for all u clowns). Is this the same cortisol were talking about?
 
Re: How to get rid of that stuburn Internal Belly Fat?!

Glove18 said:
So basically if cortisol may be the case, then is my belly filled with cortisol? Or is cortisol causing the fat to build up under there? Im still a lil unsure as to what exactly physically cortisal is.

When i was 15yo i chipped small bones in my elbow, the Dr. injected cortisol into the area, he said it latches onto the bone & muscles then hardens (kinda like super glue). The liquid(cortisol) was a very thick white foamy substance(and no it wasnt his sperm for all u clowns). Is this the same cortisol were talking about?
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He gave you a cortizone shot ,not the same thing.


Cortisol if not controlled will let you get fat or loose weight,each individual is different, some like to eat when they are stressed.
No your belly is not filled with cortisol,its Fat.

RADAR
 
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It's not cortisol. It's eating too much.
 
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Nelson Montana said:
It's not cortisol. It's eating too much.
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Well thats what wee trying to go over. Cortisol was just the main suggested theories. but u see the thing is my life style has always been active, i know how to diet, and im young. Things just dont add up. But i also have to be completly honest, ive only been giving 100% at everything for about a month now, who knows maybe time will tell. But everywhere else there is results just not there. Ive never been fat, and i know what a fat persons belly looks like and what a bloated belly looks like. I just want some suggestions from ppl that experienced the same thing maybe and how they handled it.

Keep in mind i can nearly see my abs, but it looks like im poking then out(like when ur trying to inpersonate santa clause or some fat guy), or like a 4month pregnant chick. Hard too. Its internal. I wil get a camera real soon so that i can upload pix, but even then u might not be able to tell becuz its not that big and it could be hard to distinguish the diffrence between internal and external through a pic.
 
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too many t3/clen runs. maybe your thyroid hasnt fully recovered.
 
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If only had diet in check for a month then I think the best thing to do is wait. The only problem you have is unrealistic expectations. People dont understnad that unless your just truly gifted that it takes about 3 to 4 months of hard core diet to get to that 5-6% body fat...you know the ripped with the abs that you and everyone wants a pill to fix. If you stay on track and still have this problem in about 3 months from now then it might be other issues. For now I agree with Nelson...eating too much
 
Re: How to get rid of that stuburn Internal Belly Fat?!

RADAR said:
I can explain that,
First we have to understand what causes cortisol, stress is the main factor,and what is stressed more during a cycle than the The adrenals , they are walnut-sized glands located on top of each kidney, where they serve as important manufacturing centers for many of the body’s hormones. The innermost section of each gland produces adrenaline and noradrenaline, the hormones named after them. The layers outside the center, called the adrenal cortex, produce several other hormones, including cortisol, as well as DHEA, estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone.

The fundamental task of your adrenal glands is to rally all your body’s resources into “fight or flight” mode by increasing production of adrenaline and cortisol. When healthy, your adrenals can instantly increase your heart rate and blood pressure, release your energy stores for immediate use, slow your digestion and other secondary functions, and sharpen your senses.

Every challenge to the mind and body creates a demand on the adrenal glands. And the list of challenges is endless: lack of sleep, a demanding boss, the threat of losing your job, financial pressures, personality conflicts, yo-yo dieting, relationship turmoil, death or illness of a loved one, skipping meals, , illnreliance on stimulants like caffeine and carbs, digestive problems, over-exerciseess or infection, unresolved emotional issues from our past or present and more. The result is adrenal glands that are constantly on high alert.

To prevent this you need to get a Start with a high-quality multivitamin–mineral complex rich in stress vitamins, minerals, and essential fatty acids.
Also the addition of DHEA is a good idea.Adding Green leafy vegtables to your diet is required also for healthy adrenal gland function.


RADAR
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Can you go into greater detail about the coffee and carbs not quite sure where your going
with that one, the rest sounds like you right on target.
 
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Power36 said:
Ever get your cortisol checked? Were you under severe stress at any point?

I went from big and lean, to having a belly that most couldnt see with clothes on and thought I looked lighter, despite being 30lbs heavier!! Come to find out my cortisol was sky high for a period of time, put on tons of belly fat, now on SUPPLEMENTAL CORISOL and starting to lose belly fat
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...what?
 
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look up Adrenal Fatigue, sorry I did not explain it well enough. Cortisol goes sky high for whatever stressors in your life, a big indicator is packing on midsection fat....then your cortisol can crash out, which somehow affects thyroid and possibly insulin too...its not something i know well enough to condense, so if your really interested plenty of info on the web...

and if anyone is wondering a sure way to check it out is go get comprehensive labs, including bloodwork, urine, and saliva...
 
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lander2312 said:
If only had diet in check for a month then I think the best thing to do is wait. The only problem you have is unrealistic expectations. People dont understnad that unless your just truly gifted that it takes about 3 to 4 months of hard core diet to get to that 5-6% body fat...you know the ripped with the abs that you and everyone wants a pill to fix. If you stay on track and still have this problem in about 3 months from now then it might be other issues. For now I agree with Nelson...eating too much
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Agreed, only time can tell. Now that my diet is in check lets see where ill be at in a couple of months. Would it be better to diet eating hardly no fats but same amount of daily calorie intake? Or including some fats but about 500-1000 daily calorie deficit?

SOme from my understanding cortisol triggers fat gain in a way? So my suolution is to diet and exercise then, no prob. I was thinking cortisol was some kinda liquid build up or something that can only be taken care of medically.

Thanx for the advice..
 
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How is your fiber intake?
 
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I have the same type of belly. Mine is from defiatley drinking beer for sure, at times i would drink every day for years. Now that my diest is in check (i mean seriousley in check not half ass or ok but perfect). I stll drink a couple brews on the weekend. But for the past 2 weeks i havent had one beer at all and my stomach is on the move...I mean its going down daily and fast. I'd say before supps make sure your diet is absoluley perfect no cheats nothing
 
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djboots said:
I have the same type of belly. Mine is from defiatley drinking beer for sure, at times i would drink every day for years. Now that my diest is in check (i mean seriousley in check not half ass or ok but perfect). I stll drink a couple brews on the weekend. But for the past 2 weeks i havent had one beer at all and my stomach is on the move...I mean its going down daily and fast. I'd say before supps make sure your diet is absoluley perfect no cheats nothing
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yea beer belly is just abouyt the same except when u slolw down on the drinking your belly begins to go down aswell, non like an over eater who has to quit and excersice just to see a reduction.
 
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I have a topical albutral type product coming out some day. Its going to rock shit... anyway use needt2slin along with forged burner. That and send me a pm for diet and training advice. I will hook it up
 
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Google "Insulin Resistance and Visceral Fat"...
 
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d_rson said:
Google "Insulin Resistance and Visceral Fat"...
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Nice thanks!

Also check out:
Dr. James Wilson's Adrenal Fatigue

Fat Loss | Weight Loss | Dr. Bryan P. Walsh

Lose that belly fat! You exercise, you eat right, but you still have a pooch. Here's the surprising reason why—and how to fix it | Shape | Find Articles at BNET

Cortisol and Weight Gain - Why Losing Belly Fat Seems So Hard?

The Adrenal/Thyroid Connection: A Look at the Relationship, with Drs. Richard and Karilee Shames, Authors of Thyroid Power / Thyroid Disease Information Source - Articles/FAQs

The Adrenal - Thyroid Connection, With Richard & Karilee Shames



ANyways adrenals, cortisol, thyroid, insulin, all of it is tied together but over my head to explain....and if this is the issue, its due to some drastic change in your life and not overeating or stopping training....ie you can find a good anti aging, hormone balancing, integrative/holistic MD to help you sort it out. So if you are someone who was really lean and athletic most of your life, and with little changes in diet you all the sudden pack it on, there could be some issues...if you pigged out on shit for a few months, well thats probably your answer there...

Im sorry for any confusion by my intial short post...I was a steady 10-12% my entire life, than shit hit the fan and I climbed to 30% and was like WTF all of it in my belly....no matter what diet or workouts I did I couldnt change it and was upset to say the least....got my hormones checked, and then started getting all these new topics thrown at me I never thought Id deal with, HRT, thyroid, adrenal issues, cortisol, insulin resistance,etc...

SO if your not pigging out, and hop on this thread because you too had a WTF period in your life you gain a ton of belly fat, checking out some of the links above might be of benefit. I just did a quick google, there are tons more.
 
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This is a great thread! I want to figure out the while story on cortisol, and the differences between what your body makes, and taking cortisol as a supplement. I've read directly conflicting reports regarding taking cortisol supplements. My doctor has me on cortisol 5mg/day, and he says it's "part of the program" for balancing hormones, and the cortisol has a direct effect on feeling of wellbeing. So is my cortisol supplementation causing me to have to work harder to keep my fat percentage down, or is it actually helping me to do that? If indeed it works OPPOSITE on different people, then I'd like to find out the reasons. It is medical science, and therefore I want to find an (a) + (b) = (c) answer.

Charles
 
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Glove18 said:
Honestly hardly any. I never really thought of it as much of a benefit, besides that it plugs me up very easily:xeye:
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Take it.
 
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Power36 said:
Nice thanks!


ANyways adrenals, cortisol, thyroid, insulin, all of it is tied together but over my head to explain....and if this is the issue, its due to some drastic change in your life and not overeating or stopping training....ie you can find a good anti aging, hormone balancing, integrative/holistic MD to help you sort it out. So if you are someone who was really lean and athletic most of your life, and with little changes in diet you all the sudden pack it on, there could be some issues...if you pigged out on shit for a few months, well thats probably your answer there...

Im sorry for any confusion by my intial short post...I was a steady 10-12% my entire life, than shit hit the fan and I climbed to 30% and was like WTF all of it in my belly....no matter what diet or workouts I did I couldnt change it and was upset to say the least....got my hormones checked, and then started getting all these new topics thrown at me I never thought Id deal with, HRT, thyroid, adrenal issues, cortisol, insulin resistance,etc...

SO if your not pigging out, and hop on this thread because you too had a WTF period in your life you gain a ton of belly fat, checking out some of the links above might be of benefit. I just did a quick google, there are tons more.
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Sorry if i missed it but what did you conclude was your problem.
 
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Glove18 said:
I know i gained most of it during my gf's pregnancy and i took on most of her craving side effects. It was our first time living alone and i opted for fast food alot.
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So you have been raising a new baby and that takes up a lot of your time and energy. I'm sure your diet nor your excercising have been consistant with your goals.
If this is the case don't be so hard on yourself. Get a good diet plan together and when you do post and ask for opinions. I thought I was eating pretty good and I found out it wasn't so great.
 
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kscowboy said:
Sorry if i missed it but what did you conclude was your problem.
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Im not sure about the guy who started the thread, as someone indicates he opted for fast food. My problem was "adrenal fatigue", insane amounts of cortisol over a long period of time, low thyroid, low test, low IGF-1, then a "crash" I guess of adrenals and little cortisol output, which further complicates the hormonal system.

As for the other person on cortisol, how did your doctor check you for it?! there are many good supplements that you can take if its just a little low, taking supplemental cortisol should only be done after you know for certain that yours is not up to snuff...ie blood test, but also a 24 hour saliva test to see how it fluctuates during the day, and also I know Ive done some urine tests as well....cortisol isnt something to just take as part of a HRT stack unless you really really need it....if its low like mine was, along with low thyroid, something about the thyroid meds wont do much if the cortisol is too low...again Im no expert, just swimming through these issues myself for first time.
 
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