How to get a six pack.

[Mr.X]

That's very true... it definitely hasn't been proven. My opinion, although not scientifically sound by any means, is based purely on empirical data.

To agree w/ you, when I run fina ED and do delt shots, I do notice localized growth from the muscle fiber streching; just as you would w/ pum-n-pose. I think fina is by far superior in localized growth, but, again, that's a statement not highly backed by science.

Mr.X

 

[FreakMonster]

Well i have to totally diagree with that..In my opinion and from what ive done and seen work best i have to say this...I think abs first of all should be worked out every day, and even then unless u are at a low % of body fat u wont see shyt..heres what i do for abs daily and my abs are ripped to shreads.....

Leg raises for the bottom...4 sets of 40

crunch machine for the top....4 sets of 100

side crunches for the sides....4 sets of 40 each side

i have tried many many defferent types of ab workouts during my years training and hae found this to be the most effective..But like i said if ur not at a low percentage of body fat u wont see shyt theyll be there but underneath ur layer of fat..
Try this ab work out for just 1 month and if ur at low % body fat already ull see what i mean.....good luk and later.

So is that 40 reps or 10 reps for every set?

 

[oneandthesame]

That's very true... it definitely hasn't been proven. My opinion, although not scientifically sound by any means, is based purely on empirical data.

I think you mean anticdotal data, as empirical is the same as scientific.

 

[Cuts]

I think you mean anticdotal data, as empirical is the same as scientific.

I think you mean anecdotal, as there is no such word as anticdotal ...

From a dictionary.com search for the word "empirical"...

1. Relying on or derived from observation OR experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.
Verifiable or provable by means of observation OR experiment: empirical laws.

2. Guided by practical experience and not theory, especially in medicine.

You're probably right though... "anecdotal" would have probably been a better word, although I don't think "empirical" was entirely wrong either. later

 

[oneandthesame]

I think you mean anecdotal, as there is no such word as anticdotal ...

From a dictionary.com search for the word "empirical"...

1. Relying on or derived from observation OR experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.
Verifiable or provable by means of observation OR experiment: empirical laws.

2. Guided by practical experience and not theory, especially in medicine.

You're probably right though... "anecdotal" would have probably been a better word, although I don't think "empirical" was entirely wrong either. later

LOL

 

[Mr.X]

I think you mean anecdotal, as there is no such word as anticdotal ...

From a dictionary.com search for the word "empirical"...

1. Relying on or derived from observation OR experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis.
Verifiable or provable by means of observation OR experiment: empirical laws.

2. Guided by practical experience and not theory, especially in medicine.

You're probably right though... "anecdotal" would have probably been a better word, although I don't think "empirical" was entirely wrong either. later

It's anecdotal, and it's a joke because no studies back it up. PERIOD. Empirical date is only applicable, as one learns in graduate school, to people en-mass and not individual experiments. Overall, the idea might be good, but, until further proof and science, it is only a "myth".

Mr.X

 

[Cuts]

Overall, the idea might be good, but, until further proof and science, it is only a "myth".

Mr.X

O.k... so I propose a scientifically rigourous study on spot injections and their effect or non-effect in inducing local growth. Let's get together 100 Elite members who advocate Vitamin S use, and do it. I'll volunteer as a participant if I get free Winny !