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There is proof that it heals.
HGH or DECA for healing? Both?
- Thread starter Rekrul
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There is proof that it heals.
I dont know the answer to that one...I'd shoot omega a pm - hes pretty knowledgable about the healing powers of deca
XMAN.
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yeah i agree.
i suffered from my ac joint (right shoulder) for 2.5 years till now but i'm a lot better lately, i was stubborn at the beginning about stopping training and start light after a while so i kept training heavy and trying to mask the pain with deca and cortisone infiltration in the joint, but did nothing until i convinced myself a year ago to take a break for a while and start slowly with light weight controlled movement at a slow tempo and learned to focus much better on contractions and squeezing the muscle to maximum lifting slowly trying to isolate as much as possible the targeted muscle with static contractions at the end of the lift and a very slowly negative (the rep takes about 8-10 secs for just 5-6 reps of course) , and believe me when i say i started with half of my regular weights and now i'm still at the 2/3rd of my previous weights and i'm improving, strengthening my connective tissues and hardening my muscles, and i'm seeing much more definition than with heavy explosive weights, and it's like learning a new technique where the low-moderate weight feels heavy and can benefits you in body comp. safely.
i'm still running deca from time to time, actually now i'm on it for the last 4 weeks at 200mg/w and planing to stay on for the next 4-6 weeks a total of 8-10 weeks , i do it at least 2 times a year.
and another thing, i had and advice from RADAR about using GHRP-6 for this matter as he said it works wonders for connective tissue specially when localized, so i search for it on the net and it seems that everybody is having this side and happy with it joint healing proprieties and it seems to be far more better than HGH and igf on this matter, most of the ppl using it mix it with CJC-1295 w/o dac (or modified GRF 1-29) as it intensifies the natural GH pulses in the body, they work best in synergy as it doubles the effect of both.
i'm going to give it a try next month cause i'm broke right now, i know these peptides r cheap comparing to HGH and specially at a low dose for injuries, but i'm planing to do a full cycle at a higher dose of it for six months at least for mass building at the same time, so i need to save some money first, i'm excited to start this cuz it will be my first time and everywhere i see ppl posting about these peptides they swear by them as the next generation of anabolics.
search for it , do some reading and see for urslef.
good luck
Good feedback in this thread, good stuff. So what exactly is a 'bad' dose of test? IE it inhibits or negatively impacts joint healing/connective tissue etc? I'm thinking this will be my next cycle after input here:
250-300mg TEST C
150mg DECA
400mg EQ
12-14weeks
Since my pain is localized to my hip area, I will continue to avoid heavy leg workouts. In other areas I will stick to what I'm doing. I think that will be fine. Thoughts?
250-300mg TEST C
150mg DECA
400mg EQ
12-14weeks
Since my pain is localized to my hip area, I will continue to avoid heavy leg workouts. In other areas I will stick to what I'm doing. I think that will be fine. Thoughts?
XMAN.
New member
anything above 200mg test/w will impair collagen synthesis, but remember that the 250mg amps of test e or cyp have an ester weight of about 30% of the total mg's that means it'll give u 175mg of test in actual hormone this means ur fine with 250mg too with long esters.
just stick to 200-250mg test (about hrt doses)
and bump the deca a bit to 200-300mg , eq at 400mg is good too.
keep dostinex in hand just in case ur prolac sensitive from deca
this way u don't need to follow the 1/2 or 1/3 ratio of deca/test
even at 1/1 u'll be fine with dos/caber.
i think u read my post above, try to invest in some peptides too it seems to help a lot and it's cheap.
What are your exact stats?
What are your exact goals from this cycle?
Is it pain relief? Healing? Other?
Well at the moment I'm 206lbs 6ft at about 10-12%bf. I was up to 210 this summer and was inclining over 300lbs, dead lifting close to 500lbs and was squatting close to 400. I mainly train for athletic/power purposes... I was an avid boxer/thai boxer and grappled a good bit too. Right now I avoid heavy squats and deadlifts, still benching over 300. I've really tried to focus on my hammies,glutes, and stretching... doing that has alleviated my pain a bit and overall feel my mechanics are better but I really want to rid myself of this pain.
I've done two cycles in the last 2 years
11weeks 400mgcyp/400mg eq
7 weeks 40mgpropED/50mg var a day
I've kept most my gains, as I aimed for clean dry gains and always utilized proper PCT,diet and HCG. Of course one can't keep 'the pump' but I have been very happy with the amount of my gains that I've kept.
I can gain weight and drop weight fairly easily, I like being around 195-205 with relatively high p4p strength. Ultimately the aim of the next cycle, which I think I'm going to hold off for the next 3-4 months is to continue to recomp and gain strength while at the same time heal this pain. So I'd like to be around 200 at 8%bf and feel good after is all said and done.
Deca does not heal it masks, please show me the studies I would love to read them.
For injuries HGH, and IGF, keep test to low as it will interfer with collegen production. Also you can take EQ, primo, sarms and crap i don't remember.
For injuries HGH, and IGF, keep test to low as it will interfer with collegen production. Also you can take EQ, primo, sarms and crap i don't remember.
OK...I was highly skeptical about running deca for pain mgmt, but at the same time hopeful. I have been on a low dose since sept 1 150mg/wk. Honestly it has changed my life. I took my last shot this past week and will be off daca for a while. I started running gh in hopes that when I come off the deca I will not see a spike in pain.
I am hopeful that when I come off that my pain will be reduced as I have been relativly pain free for some time now since I started this protocal. If I am not I am honestly OK with it as I now have a solution to a problem that was COMPLETELY LIFE CHANGING.
I do not know if deca heals or not...this is my first experience with it. I will post up in a month when it has cleared my body how I am feeling.
Here is the thing. My accident was almost 5 years ago. and about 3 years ago I was ready to call it quits. I had basicly zero quality of life. I had a moment of clarity and decided I was not going to go out like a pussy. Prior to running the Deca I had gotten a lot back (physique, mental health, etc). I was still bogged down with pain. Any one who has chronic pain knows what I am talking about. I had a good life but I knew I could do better. I have done a lot of shit in terms of trying to find pain relief...and have gotten minimal results. Deca has in fact been a game changer for me.
I hope taking deca works for you. I had mine prescribed for shoulder pain/hrt. When I stoped taking the deca the pain returned in 3-6 weeks. I did this 3 times and finally stoped the deca completely as it bloats me and I hate that. Unfortunately, my solution is not available to you. I do much higher reps with lighter weight and there are certain lifts I no longer due such as bench press.
