For those who never come off!

[Muraco]

I am 39 now and probably will never come off again. Well, possibly a month off here and there. Right now I'm at 240+ and trying to put on more size & weight to make the superheavy mens open next year, and also enter the Masters Div. next year! I use about 750mg Test En, 600mg Deca, & 300mg Prop per week. Also using GH for the very first time right now. Jintropin kits.

 

[boogersnax]

I read in "Building the Perfect Beast" by Author L Rea a post cycle routine where he says little mass is lost even coming off a heavy androgen cycle. It involves the use of cytadren and teslac. I hope to be able to try this one of these days to see how effective it is.

PEACE

 

[strongsmartsexy]

^bump

 

[40butpumpin]

250mg of enthanate every 5 days works well for me. I’m 43 years old.

bingo, this is what i do. but i use sust and i've also been doing 100mg of primo along with it, i plan to do this forever if i can. btw, i'm 43 too, 6'2.5", 263lbs, and about 15% bf. i train hard too, very hard. my caloric intake is about 7000 calories per day but i'm going to get that down to about 4800 here soon. i've been working on getting my diet nailed down to the last calorie. i'll be curious to see how that goes. i'd love to get down to 10 or 11% bf and stay there. i hope that helps bro.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

bingo, this is what i do. but i use sust and i've also been doing 100mg of primo along with it, i plan to do this forever if i can.

What's the impact on your HDL? Do you do regular bloodwork?

 

[40butpumpin]

What's the impact on your HDL? Do you do regular bloodwork?

bro my cholesterol is pretty good, i had it taken about a month ago. my total was 166, my hdl was 37 and my ldl was 92. i know my hdl is not all that great, but it's always been on the low end of 'normal.' i take a lot of fish oil, olive oil, flax oil, walnuts, and coconut oil to help with this. i've been 'on' for at least the last year straight and then on and off, mostly on, for the past 5. but i've been using test of various types and for short periods of time for quite a few years now.

 

[strongsmartsexy]

bro my cholesterol is pretty good, i had it taken about a month ago. my total was 166, my hdl was 37 and my ldl was 92. i know my hdl is not all that great, but it's always been on the low end of 'normal.' i take a lot of fish oil, olive oil, flax oil, walnuts, and coconut oil to help with this. i've been 'on' for at least the last year straight and then on and off, mostly on, for the past 5. but i've been using test of various types and for short periods of time for quite a few years now.

How long are you "off" for? Do you do any PCT during that time? AAS lowers HDL, so I was wondering where you're at with that. I won't do blood work for another 4 - 6 weeks.

What doses do you use for "maintenance"/HRT and what doses do you go up to if you cycle?

 

[40butpumpin]

How long are you "off" for? Do you do any PCT during that time? AAS lowers HDL, so I was wondering where you're at with that. I won't do blood work for another 4 - 6 weeks.

What doses do you use for "maintenance"/HRT and what doses do you go up to if you cycle?

i'm never off anymore bro and i hope to never be off again. if i am it won't be by my doing anyway. i used to do pct -- hcg exclusively -- but no more.

my maintenance dose now is 250mg sust along with 100mg primo e5d.

i have no need to do any more than that that i can see. i mean i'm gaining and doing just fine with what i'm doing. i mean i once had aspirations of getting to 275 or 280lbs but no more, at 43 it would be counter productive to my life and my health.

i feel the fats i mentioned above are critical to staying healthy. i also feel that as the weight increases it is more critical to maintain a solid GPP, to help the heart stay strong. i do interval training to stay in the lower-end energy systems to use only type II fibers and stay strong in addition to getting a really good cardio workout. i don't feel the weight as much that way.

 

[benevolent anarchist]

bingo, this is what i do. but i use sust and i've also been doing 100mg of primo along with it, i plan to do this forever if i can. btw, i'm 43 too, 6'2.5", 263lbs, and about 15% bf. i train hard too, very hard. my caloric intake is about 7000 calories per day but i'm going to get that down to about 4800 here soon. i've been working on getting my diet nailed down to the last calorie. i'll be curious to see how that goes. i'd love to get down to 10 or 11% bf and stay there. i hope that helps bro.

Hey that sounds like a good idea. I was looking for something to do with my leftover primo. I don’t have enough primo to another full blown cycle, but using an amp E5D would last me quite some time. I think I’ll start tomorrow. Thank you sir.

 

[Latamier]

Excellent choice to run your cycles year round. I cant even remember the last time I deliberately took some time off and wasnt due to an injury. My cycles either being mass or cutting will be 6 months or longer. If I'm going from mass to cutting, I may take 2 weeks at very most off, but will always bridge with 10mgs/day of Dbol. This also makes it very easy to incorporate the use of HGH very well also. I firmly believe that long cycles with the addition of some GH is essentially the fountain of youth. I have currently switched my HGH over to the Jino kits like many other folks here have. They may only be 100I.U.s per kit, instead of 126I.U.s but the quality of the jino kits is well worth it. Typically, I'll run my GH from 6-10I.U.s each day. The cost of longer cycles is really the only drawback. Especially with HGH added to them. The money spent is well worth it though. I can hardly ever even notice that I have lost ANY of my gains. I have had a number of folks request a lay out of what a 6month to a year long cycle would look like, so I will out up a new thread on what it would look like. Good job on your past cycles and on the cycles you choose to do in the near future. I promise you that you wont be dissapointed in your decision. My stats are 6'2" and right now about 260lbs or slightly less. I just finished up a show so right now I am feeling the fat coming back. The reason I started longer cycles was due to breaking my back at 3 levels and herniating at 2 other levels as well. I feel like a little kid again which is a good thing for a 33 year old guy. Feel free to email me or send a PM if you have any other questions as well.