First time injecting Sustanon...Is this normal?

[Jebus2000]

You guys are great..thanks for all of the great advice. The post-shower injection makes allot of sense!

As I mentioned before I am doing Sustanon, D-Bol, Prop + win-v. I belive I already know the answer, but is the Nolvadex an absolute. I do not want to risk gyeno., but is it a must?

 

[humanoid]

Get some liquidex to inhibit aromatase. Have nolvadex on hand in the event that you encounter a problem. You can also use it as part of your post cycle therapy.

 

[Jebus2000]

I am not familiar with liquidex? Can you give some info?

The problem is I am having a hard time finding any Nolva, is liquidex easier to find?

 

[bicepts101]

I am not familiar with liquidex? Can you give some info?

The problem is I am having a hard time finding any Nolva, is liquidex easier to find?

arimidex in liquid form

 

[bicepts101]

also 1/2cc in each delf would have done you ok imo

 

[GUNZ-007]

If you get bad pain from sus, do not shoot anywhere but glutes. IMO I get bad pain and will not shoot anywhere else with sus.

 

[TheRide]

I will never inject Sust. in my delt again...but will I have the same pain in my glute?

It will still be sore... but comes w/the territory!! When you get a chance... try Stromba Winstol... 100mg... now THAT IS PAINFUL!!

 

[gymmeister]

Here are the "rules of thumb" that have worked for me.

I have used Sus 250, Test, Prop, Test Enan, EQ, Deca, Winny and Tren for injections. Primo is a whole other story.

For glutes use a 23G, 1.5" syringe and push it in all the way (only push it it in 1" - or 2/3 of the way - if you don't have much fat on your glutes).

For site injections I use a 25G, 1" syringe and follow the same protocol as I do for 23G syringe injections.

I always take about 30 - 45 seconds to slowly push the oil in and I never wiggle or let the syringe drift in or out even a millimeter!

You must keep the needle in all the way, not wiggle and push the oil slowly into the injection site. A steady hand is often key to whether the injection will be painful or not, but not always.

It sounds as though you didn't shoot your Sus 250 deep enough into the muscle and a knot formed in the subcutaneous fat layer.

Also why are you doing Test Prop AND Sus 250 at the same time? Wouldn't you want to switch from Sus 250 to Test Prop in the last 2 or 3 weeks of your cycle to better control your Test levels at the end? it seems like a waste to use the Test Prop now as long as you have enough Sus 250 on hand. Just curious.

 

[Jebus2000]

Here are the "rules of thumb" that have worked for me.

I have used Sus 250, Test, Prop, Test Enan, EQ, Deca, Winny and Tren for injections. Primo is a whole other story.

For glutes use a 23G, 1.5" syringe and push it in all the way (only push it it in 1" - or 2/3 of the way - if you don't have much fat on your glutes).

For site injections I use a 25G, 1" syringe and follow the same protocol as I do for 23G syringe injections.

I always take about 30 - 45 seconds to slowly push the oil in and I never wiggle or let the syringe drift in or out even a millimeter!

You must keep the needle in all the way, not wiggle and push the oil slowly into the injection site. A steady hand is often key to whether the injection will be painful or not, but not always.

It sounds as though you didn't shoot your Sus 250 deep enough into the muscle and a knot formed in the subcutaneous fat layer.

Also why are you doing Test Prop AND Sus 250 at the same time? Wouldn't you want to switch from Sus 250 to Test Prop in the last 2 or 3 weeks of your cycle to better control your Test levels at the end? it seems like a waste to use the Test Prop now as long as you have enough Sus 250 on hand. Just curious.

Lots of great advice ...thanks for taking the time.

To answer your question, I am doing an 8 week cycle and the 250mg. of Prop. is only intoduced once a week in weeks 3, 4, 5
+6.

Here is a breakdown of my current 8 Week cycle...

Sustanon 250mg.---once a week every Monday X 8 weeks
Win-V 50mg---twice a week on Mondays and Fridays X 8 Weeks
Prop. 250mg.---Once a week on Fridays in weeks 3,4,5+6 ONLY

D-Bol tabs---
Mondays always 10 mg

D-Bol TabsTuesday-Sunday
Week 1, 15mg Daily.
Week 2 25mg.Daily
Week 3, 40 mgDaily
Week 4 50 mg Daily
Week 5 50 mg Daily
Week 6 40 mg Daily
Week 7 25mg.Daily
Week 8, 15mg Daily

This cycle was created by Mick Hart and has since been adjusted my him to fit my fitness goals. The Original called of an additional 200mg. of Deca on the Monday and lower doses of D-Bol. I am relativly new to much of the anabolic world, so I have no answer as to why the prop. is used on top of the Sutanon friend, but I have a great deal of trust and respect for Mick. His advice has always been top notch in my opinion. I do know that the amount of test I am using even at max levels in my cycle is no different them using 500mg. of Sustanon a week and I know many people that do that much and more.

If anyone has an answer I would love to hear it and any opinions on my cycle...

Thanks and I look forward to your response..

 

[Jebus2000]

UPDATE:

Just wanted to give everyone an update on my shoulder...

It has been 4 full days since the injecton of Sust. into my Left delt and I am already pain free and the know that was previouly the size of a golf ball is all but gone...

Thanks to everyone that helped to ease my mind..you guys are great!