first cycles do not consist of multiple compounds or high doses once and for all

[Terd]

Like Nelson?

Nope, I don't agree with everything he says, but he brings alot to the discussion. I've seen people acquire 3000 post in less than 6 months. Since most people equate post counts with knowledge newbies flock to them. They become mods at different boards and begin giving out advice on everthing. People assume mods must be knowledgable. When in reality 6 months ago they didn't know a thing about juice. Prove them wrong and they'll use their god-like mod powers to delete your post.

 

[E23]

This boards new name is "Home of the Namby-Pamby".

 

[Nelson Montana]

Nelson, keep typing, but at least type something coherent. That had zero helpful factual information in it. Fine, so you don't like high doses. If you're going to post a response to my thread, at least have the decency to actually stick to the conventional rules of rational debate, rather than spouting off on a soapbox.

Keep whistling in the dark bro. Keep whistling in the dark.

Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean the information isn't factual. It is blaringly factual, you just don't want to face it.

And when you attempt to disparage me with the accusation that I'm just a guy with a lot of posts, you just make yourself look foolish.

 

[Deleted member 33117]

bumping this to the top. Something hopefully all the newbies will look at.

Newbies, all you need is a little test enathate (at little meaning you do not need 1000 mg), alot of clean calories and a good routine to bust out of your skin on your first cycle. Your choice, would you rather make optimal gains for $200-300, or spend a lot more and have nothing to show for the extra hundred dollar bills you just threw in the garbage except for a few more side effects?

 

[Quadsweep]

Been saying this for years! While I admitt my dosages are pretty high now, they were not over 500mg a week for years and years....like 7 years! I gained 27# my first cycle in 8 weeks on 250mg sust a week. I kept 20#. And no one ever even heard of Clomid back then.

Quad

 

[Quadsweep]

I will stick it.

Quad

 

[slobberknocker]

This boards new name is "Home of the Namby-Pamby".

I don't know what Namby-Pamby is, but I think you're probably right.

 

[babbabuee]

i think we need more guys like quad to come out and state that they gained like crazy off of 250mg/wk. that's fuckin crazy!!! I mean that in a good way. i personally can't see why anyone would want to do more than what's needed. I think the problem though, is figuring out how much is needed.

 

[Ashamed]

I have used 250mg per week.. and 250mg per 3 days.. and with dbol on top.. and with winstrol to the side.. and this n that...

I think 250mg enanthate per week with say 15-20mg per day of dbol for 8 weeks is a great first cycle.

I used to think that 500mg per week was too much, but I no longer think this. Hasn't there been legitimate studies that used 600mg of enanthate for 20 weeks? I think 500mg of test on it's own for no more than say 10 weeks is a good first cycle. And let's face it.. some people get away with 20 weeks or more at this dose with no problems...

There should be boundaries. More than 500mg per week for a first cycle is stupid. And some will gain on less... but 500mg is not over the top IMO.

 

[Terd]

Been saying this for years! While I admitt my dosages are pretty high now, they were not over 500mg a week for years and years....like 7 years! I gained 27# my first cycle in 8 weeks on 250mg sust a week. I kept 20#. And no one ever even heard of Clomid back then.

Quad

Here's the problem, you made great gains from a low dose. A Newbie reads that and is all set to run 250mgs a week. Some "guru" tells him
"why waste your time sticking yourself for such a low dose",
"all your doing is replacing your natural test"
"doubling your dose will double your gains".

A newbie now thinks he'll gain 40 pounds 8 weeks. When he doesn't he'll reply His gear was fake.