First Cycle (Bulking Help wanted)

[rbenedit]

Going after first cylce and wanted some advice: 5'10,200 LBS, and work out hard over 5 years- But want to go to the next level-

Sust- 500mg wk 1-10
Dbol- 35 mg wk 1-10
Clomid: 300mg Day1, 100mg next 10 days,50mg last days

OR

Sust-500mg wk 1-10
Dbol- 35mg wk 1-4
winny 40mg wk 5-10
Clomid: 300mg Day1, 100mg next 10 days,50mg last days

Which is better for Mass and which will KEEP more of the gains??
Want to reach 215+

Thanks

 

[Willyumyum]

Going after first cylce and wanted some advice: 5'10,200 LBS, and work out hard over 5 years- But want to go to the next level-

Sust- 500mg wk 1-10
Dbol- 35 mg wk 1-10
Clomid: 300mg Day1, 100mg next 10 days,50mg last days

OR

Sust-500mg wk 1-10
Dbol- 35mg wk 1-4
winny 40mg wk 5-10
Clomid: 300mg Day1, 100mg next 10 days,50mg last days

Which is better for Mass and which will KEEP more of the gains??
Want to reach 215+

Thanks

That first cycle is crazy... dbol for 10 weeks? your liver would turn black and fall out when you took a shit.. ok not really, but dont ever take dbol for 10 weeks...

I like the second cycle, but I would change the winny to at least 50mg/day for weeks 6-12, not 5-10... I would alsodrop the dbol to 30mg/day and run it for 5 weeks...
Clomid looks good... Go with number two and possibly make the changes i suggested
Oh yeah and you will want to take arimidex @ .5mg/EOD throughout the cycle...

YUM

 

[Willyumyum]

And welcome to the board

YUM

 

[Razarsharp]

For size and gains and what you'll keep, depends on post-gear usage. You will need to jump on Clomid about 10 days following last injection or 3-4 days following last tab. Start at around 200mgs for days 1&2, 100 for days 3&4, and then to 50mgs for days 5-14(or 21).

You cycle looks good but I would hit the sust/dbol together (just drop the dbol down to 25-30mgs, if you feel like it isn't as effective, add more). As for winny - take that 40mgs, every other day for the last 4-6 weeks. You should be able to maintain most of your gains (depending on diet could be around 20-30lbs) if you eat and train just as hard if not harder than while you were on your cycle.

Good luck

 

[rbenedit]

ok- so like this

so something like this-

Sust 500mg wk 1-10
dbol 30mg wk 1-5
winny 50mg wk 6-12 (once every 2 days or 25mg a day?)
clomid - (wk13) 200mg day 1-2 -> 100mg day 3-4 ->50mg to day 5-21

what is arimidex @ .5mg/EOD ?? what is it for?

 

[Spider8321]

That is a good cycle But maybe weeks 1-10 200mgs of deca

 

[mvmaxx]

Re: ok- so like this

what is arimidex @ .5mg/EOD ?? what is it for?

Me giving newbies advice I must be doing my homework.

Arimidex is a tablet form of Anastrozole that is used as an anti-estrogen to prevent bloating and gyno (bitch tit) while on your cycle. Liquidex is a cheaper form of the same subtance in liquid form. Take it throughout your cycle and continue to use through your clomid therapy.

.5mg/EOD = a half milligram (half a pill) every other day

 

[Rotty]

Bro, the cycle looks good. you can do two 250mg sust shots a week for ten weeks and stack it witht he dbol for the first 4 or 5 weeks. I would start with a small dosage of dbol like 30mgs and work up to 45-50 mg a day. As far as the winny I would save that for a cutting cycle and stack it with test prop. First cycle bro, you should grow nice on dbol and sust. Good luck. Clomid looks good as is.

 

[rbenedit]

kewl

Thanks for all the advice- Sure I'm going to have great first run-

So winny will help you get cut- I really don't want that right now- I was going to take it to hold on to the gains- but thats what I thought winny is good for near the end- I guess i was wrong