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Drug test question and ways to pass
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DrBones said:
I personally wouldnt do cardio for the 2-3 days leading up to the test, but you can do whatever you want.
The most important thing is getting the water down and taking the B Vitamins & Creatine.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_testing.shtml
Here is the Visine article:
From: [email protected] (H-Man)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 02:17:49 UTC
Subject: VISINE to beat POT PISS-TESTS pt. 2
I posted a message the other day about using VISINE to cause false-negative POT PISS-TESTS. Well, I came down this morning and found that I was under a viaduct right near the university library, so I cleaned myself off a bit in nearby FOUNTAIN and ambled in for some further research. Here is a review
of two articles concerning false-negatives through SPECIMEN alteration with EYE-DROPS and a bit of speculation about how to use this information.
Please respond with COMMENTS or CRITICISMS.
|--########>-- H-Man --<########--|
[1] "Adulterants Causing False Negative in Illicit Drug Testing"
Clinical Chemistry, Nov 1988, Volume 34, Number 11, p 2333-2336.
Stephen L. Mikkelsen and K. Owen Ash
[2] "Mechanism of False-Negative Urine Cannabinoid Immunoassay Screens by
Visine Eyedrops"
Clinical Chemistry, Apr 1989, Volume 35, Number 4, p. 636-638.
Stephen D. Pearson, K. Owen Ash, and Francis M. Urry
[1] describes the effects of 8 different urine-additives (table salt,
Visine, handsoap, Drano, bleach, vinegar, goldenseal tea, and lemon juice) on the outcome of various drug tests. Every effective additive except Visine leaves an easily detected telltale sign: Drano, bleach and vinegar change the specimen's pH outside the normal range; goldenseal tea causes the specimen to turn brown; soap causes the specimen to become cloudy; and table salt forces the sample's relative density out of the normal range. Lemon juice did not affect the tests. The abstract notes: "Visine was the only adulterant not detected." [2] says that Visine does slightly reduce the urine sample's abaility to foam.
Visine caused false negatives (EMIT d.a.u. assays) in the tests for
benzodiazepines and marijuana, but did not change the test results for amphetamines, barbituates, cocaine, or opiates. 125 mL / L was the amount of Visine used per amount of urine specimen with 122 ug / L of 9-carboxy-THC in the sample.
[2] focuses on the use of Visine to prevent pot metabolite detection. Here is a table summarizing the effectiveness of varying concentrations of Visine:
Visine concentration (mL / L) :
0 10 20 50 100 200 300
Apparent 9-carboxy-THC concentration (ug / L) :
100 52 43 47 35 85 87
(Note the positive test cutoff value is 50 ug / L 9-carboxy-THC).
The interesting thing to observe is the effectiveness of Visine as THC metabolite masker decreases as its concentration goes up past a certain point. The same pattern occured with the TDx and Abuscreen assays (the TDx assay generated false negatives, but the Abuscreen assay's apparent metabolite value fell only to 52 ug / L). The lesson to be learned is the optimum amount of Visine to use is around 100 mL / L.
The ingredients of Visine responsible for the blocking of the THC test are given as benzalkonium chloride (a preservative) and the borate buffer. The mechanisms of the borate buffer were not discussed, but "reduced availability of 9-carboxy-THC in urine samples adulterated with Visine is due in part to uptake of 9-carboxy-THC into benzalkonium chloride micelles."
To use this information to your advantage, figure that the standard urine specimen is 60 mL. At 100 mL / L Visine recommended, this means 6 mL of Visine would cut the observed 9-carboxy-THC almost two-thirds. Visine comes in 15 mL and 30 mL bottles. For advice on how to add the adulterant, read Abbie Hoffman's book on piss-testing, _Steal this Urine Test_. Use of other methods (such as diluting your urine by frequent water drinking) should be researched. Adding adulterants can be risky and should be seen as a last-ditch effort if you're caught with your pants down, so to speak.
From: [email protected] (H-Man)
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1993 02:17:49 UTC
Subject: VISINE to beat POT PISS-TESTS pt. 2
I posted a message the other day about using VISINE to cause false-negative POT PISS-TESTS. Well, I came down this morning and found that I was under a viaduct right near the university library, so I cleaned myself off a bit in nearby FOUNTAIN and ambled in for some further research. Here is a review
of two articles concerning false-negatives through SPECIMEN alteration with EYE-DROPS and a bit of speculation about how to use this information.
Please respond with COMMENTS or CRITICISMS.
|--########>-- H-Man --<########--|
[1] "Adulterants Causing False Negative in Illicit Drug Testing"
Clinical Chemistry, Nov 1988, Volume 34, Number 11, p 2333-2336.
Stephen L. Mikkelsen and K. Owen Ash
[2] "Mechanism of False-Negative Urine Cannabinoid Immunoassay Screens by
Visine Eyedrops"
Clinical Chemistry, Apr 1989, Volume 35, Number 4, p. 636-638.
Stephen D. Pearson, K. Owen Ash, and Francis M. Urry
[1] describes the effects of 8 different urine-additives (table salt,
Visine, handsoap, Drano, bleach, vinegar, goldenseal tea, and lemon juice) on the outcome of various drug tests. Every effective additive except Visine leaves an easily detected telltale sign: Drano, bleach and vinegar change the specimen's pH outside the normal range; goldenseal tea causes the specimen to turn brown; soap causes the specimen to become cloudy; and table salt forces the sample's relative density out of the normal range. Lemon juice did not affect the tests. The abstract notes: "Visine was the only adulterant not detected." [2] says that Visine does slightly reduce the urine sample's abaility to foam.
Visine caused false negatives (EMIT d.a.u. assays) in the tests for
benzodiazepines and marijuana, but did not change the test results for amphetamines, barbituates, cocaine, or opiates. 125 mL / L was the amount of Visine used per amount of urine specimen with 122 ug / L of 9-carboxy-THC in the sample.
[2] focuses on the use of Visine to prevent pot metabolite detection. Here is a table summarizing the effectiveness of varying concentrations of Visine:
Visine concentration (mL / L) :
0 10 20 50 100 200 300
Apparent 9-carboxy-THC concentration (ug / L) :
100 52 43 47 35 85 87
(Note the positive test cutoff value is 50 ug / L 9-carboxy-THC).
The interesting thing to observe is the effectiveness of Visine as THC metabolite masker decreases as its concentration goes up past a certain point. The same pattern occured with the TDx and Abuscreen assays (the TDx assay generated false negatives, but the Abuscreen assay's apparent metabolite value fell only to 52 ug / L). The lesson to be learned is the optimum amount of Visine to use is around 100 mL / L.
The ingredients of Visine responsible for the blocking of the THC test are given as benzalkonium chloride (a preservative) and the borate buffer. The mechanisms of the borate buffer were not discussed, but "reduced availability of 9-carboxy-THC in urine samples adulterated with Visine is due in part to uptake of 9-carboxy-THC into benzalkonium chloride micelles."
To use this information to your advantage, figure that the standard urine specimen is 60 mL. At 100 mL / L Visine recommended, this means 6 mL of Visine would cut the observed 9-carboxy-THC almost two-thirds. Visine comes in 15 mL and 30 mL bottles. For advice on how to add the adulterant, read Abbie Hoffman's book on piss-testing, _Steal this Urine Test_. Use of other methods (such as diluting your urine by frequent water drinking) should be researched. Adding adulterants can be risky and should be seen as a last-ditch effort if you're caught with your pants down, so to speak.
notoriousQQ
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best way to pass a drug test? hmmm, I don't know, maybe try not doing drugs long enough that you are clean?
IMO you should be drinking a lot of water every day(but everybody should be really), eliminate soda and carbonated beveridges from your diet, get plenty of exercise in the mean time and do not ingest any other illegal drugs until after the test and then use one of the professional cleansers the day of the test.
IMO you should be drinking a lot of water every day(but everybody should be really), eliminate soda and carbonated beveridges from your diet, get plenty of exercise in the mean time and do not ingest any other illegal drugs until after the test and then use one of the professional cleansers the day of the test.
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HULKSTER
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BeefyBull said:
---LMAO, that was fuckin' hilarious! God Almighty, I never heard of people actually using DRANO or BLEACH!
DrBones
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So if I did the visine method.... use about a third of a 15ml bottle...
hrmm...
I really hope I can delay this test as long as possible...
Any other web sites with information is really appreciated....
I'm learning a lot about this shit...
Im kicking myself in the ass for smoking this shit so frequently recently..
hrmm...
I really hope I can delay this test as long as possible...
Any other web sites with information is really appreciated....
I'm learning a lot about this shit...
Im kicking myself in the ass for smoking this shit so frequently recently..
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