Discuss EliteFitness.com News: How Anthony Roberts & Steroid.com Raped George Spellwin, the EliteFitness.com Site & Our Members

[needtogetaas]

Re: Discuss EliteFitness.com News: How Anthony Roberts & Steroid.com Raped George Spe

So, everyone other than mods have to keep these threads on topic?

Point taken bro. You are right.

 

[eddymerckx]

Re: Discuss EliteFitness.com News: How Anthony Roberts & Steroid.com Raped George Spe

Wow. OK... That makes sense. Thanks.

My point is that rather than making this a C&C thread and distracting from the point, wouldnt it make sense to take that stuff to PM's?

...and since we are talking about it... Needto is a great guy and adds tremendous value to the board for a lot of people, including myself. But, dont act as if he is not compensated for those efforts.

he is not compensated for those or any efforts. mods do not get paid--they do it because they like to help.

which is why if you appreciate his help buy his book.

 

[George Spellwin]

Anyone have the cliffs notes of what happened?

Running EliteFitness.com is expensive and we earn the money needed to keep such a large operation going in three ways: through advertising, downloadable e-books, and from your support when you become a Platinum Member. Many EliteFitness.com clones stay online by dealing steroids and they use their forums to generate prospective customers that they can then sell drugs to. The idea behind Brian and Anthony’s Steroid.com site is actually quite ingenious. Steroid.com pretends to support and educate the bodybuilding community, but at the same time it really exists to cheat its members into buying the fake steroids that they sell at their sister site, the RoidStore.com. So although they are not exactly dealing drugs, by dancing around some of the Federal Trade Commission’s rules about truth in advertising, they can make a fortune by selling stuff that pretends to be anabolic steroids but isn’t. Now Brian is the one raking in the cash, living in a mansion, and now he’s the one driving the Lamborghini perhaps even the same one that was once owned by his mentor Bart.

You have to give Brian and Anthony credit, it’s a great idea really; use your Steroid.com EF clone site to sell fake steroids in your very own RoidStore. But their idea has one major problem. You see, most businesses are successful because of repeat customers; however, you can imagine that after you buy something from the RoidStore only to discover that it is not an anabolic steroid, you’re not going to go back and get ripped off again. And so, in order for Brian and Anthony to keep Steroid.com going and to keep gas in the tank of that Lambo, they have to continually find new suckers to buy the fake steroids they sell at their RoidStore.

Here’s how it works:

RoidStore.com sells an oral supplement called “Deca 200” which is a name that sounds an awful lot like pharmaceutical giant Organon’s injectable prescription drug nandrolone decanoate that Organon markets under the brand name Deca-Durabolin. RoidStore claims that “Deca 200” contains a nutritional supplement blend with a name Brian made up called “Nandeconate”, which is definitely not the drug made by Organon.

RoidStore sells another oral supplement called “D-Anabol 25” and they say it contains a nutritional supplement blend with the made up name “Metandesenolone”. Isn’t that curious? “D-Anabol 25” made from “Metandesenolone” sounds an awful lot like the real brand name drug Dianabol produced by pharmaceutical giant Ciba containing the real pharmaceutical methandrostenolone.

RoidStore’s “Tren 75” contains a nutritional supplement blend with a cool sounding fabricated name “Finabolan”, but it does not contain a bit of the real drug trenbolone acetate, which you will find in pharmaceutical giant Hoechst-Roussel’s brand name drug Finaplix.

RoidStore sells something they call “Var 10” which they say contains a nutritional supplement blend with the name they made up of “Oxantrione”. But guess what? “Var 10” doesn’t contain any of the real drug called oxandrolone put out by pharmaceutical giant Searle that Searle sells under the brand name Anavar.

And here’s one of my favorites.

RoidStore sells another oral supplement called “Winn 50” which is a name that sounds an awful lot like pharmaceutical giant Upjohn’s prescription drug Winstrol, which is Upjohn’s brand name for the generic pharmaceutical stanozolol. RoidStore claims that “Winn 50” contains a nutritional supplement blend called “Vanazolol”, which is definitely not the same thing as stanozolol (Winstrol).

Guess who owns the trademarks for D-Anabol 25, Deca 200, Winn 50, Tren 75, Var 10, Nandeconate, Vanazolol, Metandesenolone, and Finabolan? Think it’s Organon, Ciba, Hoechst-Roussel, Searle and Upjohn? Nope, you would be wrong. These trademarks although they sound a lot like the real thing are all owned by Brian Clapp’s company Anabolic Research, LLC.

I wanted you to know what was really in some of RoidStore’s supplements, so I got my hands on a bottle of “Winn 50.” When you get the bottle you find out that “Vanazolol” is actually a proprietary blend of DHEA, taraxacum officinale, (better known as dandelion - yes, the flower) as well as iron, vitamin b12, caffeine, and vanadyl sulphate. All at a retail price of only $95 per bottle! Yes, for a hundred bucks, you could take a pill that wouldn’t help you much more than a multi-vitamin, a salad and a cup of coffee.

Not fully knowing all the above, I foolishly stood by Anthony Roberts when the members were telling me he was a loser and that he needed to go. Now EF has gotten sued by Steroid.com/RoidStore for my poor judgement.

I apologize to all our members for not listening to you earlier.

 

[eddymerckx]

Running EliteFitness.com is expensive and we earn the money needed to keep such a large operation going in three ways: through advertising, downloadable e-books, and from your support when you become a Platinum Member. Many EliteFitness.com clones stay online by dealing steroids and they use their forums to generate prospective customers that they can then sell drugs to. The idea behind Brian and Anthony’s Steroid.com site is actually quite ingenious. Steroid.com pretends to support and educate the bodybuilding community, but at the same time it really exists to cheat its members into buying the fake steroids that they sell at their sister site, the RoidStore.com. So although they are not exactly dealing drugs, by dancing around some of the Federal Trade Commission’s rules about truth in advertising, they can make a fortune by selling stuff that pretends to be anabolic steroids but isn’t. Now Brian is the one raking in the cash, living in a mansion, and now he’s the one driving the Lamborghini perhaps even the same one that was once owned by his mentor Bart.

You have to give Brian and Anthony credit, it’s a great idea really; use your Steroid.com EF clone site to sell fake steroids in your very own RoidStore. But their idea has one major problem. You see, most businesses are successful because of repeat customers; however, you can imagine that after you buy something from the RoidStore only to discover that it is not an anabolic steroid, you’re not going to go back and get ripped off again. And so, in order for Brian and Anthony to keep Steroid.com going and to keep gas in the tank of that Lambo, they have to continually find new suckers to buy the fake steroids they sell at their RoidStore.

Here’s how it works:

RoidStore.com sells an oral supplement called “Deca 200” which is a name that sounds an awful lot like pharmaceutical giant Organon’s injectable prescription drug nandrolone decanoate that Organon markets under the brand name Deca-Durabolin. RoidStore claims that “Deca 200” contains a nutritional supplement blend with a name Brian made up called “Nandeconate”, which is definitely not the drug made by Organon.

RoidStore sells another oral supplement called “D-Anabol 25” and they say it contains a nutritional supplement blend with the made up name “Metandesenolone”. Isn’t that curious? “D-Anabol 25” made from “Metandesenolone” sounds an awful lot like the real brand name drug Dianabol produced by pharmaceutical giant Ciba containing the real pharmaceutical methandrostenolone.

RoidStore’s “Tren 75” contains a nutritional supplement blend with a cool sounding fabricated name “Finabolan”, but it does not contain a bit of the real drug trenbolone acetate, which you will find in pharmaceutical giant Hoechst-Roussel’s brand name drug Finaplix.

RoidStore sells something they call “Var 10” which they say contains a nutritional supplement blend with the name they made up of “Oxantrione”. But guess what? “Var 10” doesn’t contain any of the real drug called oxandrolone put out by pharmaceutical giant Searle that Searle sells under the brand name Anavar.

And here’s one of my favorites.

RoidStore sells another oral supplement called “Winn 50” which is a name that sounds an awful lot like pharmaceutical giant Upjohn’s prescription drug Winstrol, which is Upjohn’s brand name for the generic pharmaceutical stanozolol. RoidStore claims that “Winn 50” contains a nutritional supplement blend called “Vanazolol”, which is definitely not the same thing as stanozolol (Winstrol).

Guess who owns the trademarks for D-Anabol 25, Deca 200, Winn 50, Tren 75, Var 10, Nandeconate, Vanazolol, Metandesenolone, and Finabolan? Think it’s Organon, Ciba, Hoechst-Roussel, Searle and Upjohn? Nope, you would be wrong. These trademarks although they sound a lot like the real thing are all owned by Brian Clapp’s company Anabolic Research, LLC.

I wanted you to know what was really in some of RoidStore’s supplements, so I got my hands on a bottle of “Winn 50.” When you get the bottle you find out that “Vanazolol” is actually a proprietary blend of DHEA, taraxacum officinale, (better known as dandelion - yes, the flower) as well as iron, vitamin b12, caffeine, and vanadyl sulphate. All at a retail price of only $95 per bottle! Yes, for a hundred bucks, you could take a pill that wouldn’t help you much more than a multi-vitamin, a salad and a cup of coffee.

Not fully knowing all the above, I foolishly stood by Anthony Roberts when the members were telling me he was a loser and that he needed to go. Now EF has gotten sued by Steroid.com/RoidStore for my poor judgement.

I apologize to all our members for not listening to you earlier.[/QUOTE]

Find me another company with someone at the helm with the integrity to admit an error in judgment--you can't.

That is why they put erasers on pencils --I am behind you and EF 110%

For the bros that read this--the reason we have somene like this is because of member support--plat memberships/e-books/sponsors. These things allow EF to set itself apart from the rest. Please, step-up and support the site.

 

[DJ_UFO]

 

[hurricane]

^^ lololol

 

[eddymerckx]

hehhehehehehehhehehhehehe

 

[nzrodney]

Just an update from his blog;

"My lawyer contacted me and basically told me what they’re offering as a settlement to me, and it’s EXACTLY what I told those fucking pricks I had wanted back in December. I’m not 100% sure why they needed to pay a lawyer to give me what I want. I’m also not 100% sure what Brian’s settlement is either, but since he owns the copyright to the book they infringed on, he’s likely getting a very decent settlement. However, as they have engaged in libel against both myself as well as Brian (with that mailer), that is again, a totally different situation, and again, will likely be a totally new set of lawsuits unless they print a retraction. And I think it’s very likely that they will do just that - since they’ve just offered settlements to both myself as well as Brian, I think it is highly likely that they either do not have the money to fight us (bit off more than they could chew), and they will simply lose the case(s) even if they did have the money.

So I’m predicting a full retraction of that mailer sometime soon, as well as my getting my books back (and selling them on Steroid.com), and some other cool stuff. But in the end, the most damaging thing Elite did (other than lose money and look stupid) is that they gave us the initiative to enter the e-book market and compete with them. Frankly this isn’t a huge deal to us - the company doesn’t need to grow in that direction, but we’ve decided to do it anyway, and that (of course) means a much smaller piece of the e-book market for EF from now on.

Also, I’m not signing a fucking thing with regards to not telling you guys what I got in the settlement, so even though I’m sure EF’s lawyer is going to add that in, I’m not even entertaining that fucking thought"


Just an FYI??

George, is there any truth in these comments? Surely you would not settle with these bastards? I'm sorry I have not read all 37 pages on this thread so if this has been raised before my apologies.

 

[Wrongun]

Re: Discuss EliteFitness.com News: How Anthony Roberts & Steroid.com Raped George Spe

Just an update from his blog;

"My lawyer contacted me and basically told me what they’re offering as a settlement to me, and it’s EXACTLY what I told those fucking pricks I had wanted back in December. I’m not 100% sure why they needed to pay a lawyer to give me what I want. I’m also not 100% sure what Brian’s settlement is either, but since he owns the copyright to the book they infringed on, he’s likely getting a very decent settlement. However, as they have engaged in libel against both myself as well as Brian (with that mailer), that is again, a totally different situation, and again, will likely be a totally new set of lawsuits unless they print a retraction. And I think it’s very likely that they will do just that - since they’ve just offered settlements to both myself as well as Brian, I think it is highly likely that they either do not have the money to fight us (bit off more than they could chew), and they will simply lose the case(s) even if they did have the money.

So I’m predicting a full retraction of that mailer sometime soon, as well as my getting my books back (and selling them on Steroid.com), and some other cool stuff. But in the end, the most damaging thing Elite did (other than lose money and look stupid) is that they gave us the initiative to enter the e-book market and compete with them. Frankly this isn’t a huge deal to us - the company doesn’t need to grow in that direction, but we’ve decided to do it anyway, and that (of course) means a much smaller piece of the e-book market for EF from now on.

Also, I’m not signing a fucking thing with regards to not telling you guys what I got in the settlement, so even though I’m sure EF’s lawyer is going to add that in, I’m not even entertaining that fucking thought"


Just an FYI??

George, is there any truth in these comments? Surely you would not settle with these bastards? I'm sorry I have not read all 37 pages on this thread so if this has been raised before my apologies.

Sometimes a commercial view has to be taken as with any litigation it is very expensive for all involved just on legal fees never mind if you win or not as you have to pay to get to court. Litigation can go on for months / years before you even get to court and there is considerable expense preparing.

Also you have to look at what you can win. If you win and get awarded damages can the defendant or claimant actually pay them. If the organisation is liquidated as a result then what benefit to you get other than proving your point at a considerable cost of legal fees.

The ones that are certain to win are the legal teams as they get their money on account pre doing any work so if possible and negotiation can bring a resolve then its always worth investigation and trying to agree.

Unfortunately due to posts like this and the blog it forces both claimenet and defendant into a position its hard to back down from. But at what cost do you put that would it be at the risk of Elitefitness or steroid.com as a business as it could well end up like that

Hope negotiations are going well and a resolve can be found

Wrongun!

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Re: Discuss EliteFitness.com News: How Anthony Roberts & Steroid.com Raped George Spe

Just an update from his blog;

"My lawyer contacted me and basically told me what they’re offering as a settlement to me, and it’s EXACTLY what I told those fucking pricks I had wanted back in December. I’m not 100% sure why they needed to pay a lawyer to give me what I want. I’m also not 100% sure what Brian’s settlement is either, but since he owns the copyright to the book they infringed on, he’s likely getting a very decent settlement. However, as they have engaged in libel against both myself as well as Brian (with that mailer), that is again, a totally different situation, and again, will likely be a totally new set of lawsuits unless they print a retraction. And I think it’s very likely that they will do just that - since they’ve just offered settlements to both myself as well as Brian, I think it is highly likely that they either do not have the money to fight us (bit off more than they could chew), and they will simply lose the case(s) even if they did have the money.

So I’m predicting a full retraction of that mailer sometime soon, as well as my getting my books back (and selling them on Steroid.com), and some other cool stuff. But in the end, the most damaging thing Elite did (other than lose money and look stupid) is that they gave us the initiative to enter the e-book market and compete with them. Frankly this isn’t a huge deal to us - the company doesn’t need to grow in that direction, but we’ve decided to do it anyway, and that (of course) means a much smaller piece of the e-book market for EF from now on.

Also, I’m not signing a fucking thing with regards to not telling you guys what I got in the settlement, so even though I’m sure EF’s lawyer is going to add that in, I’m not even entertaining that fucking thought"


Just an FYI??

George, is there any truth in these comments? Surely you would not settle with these bastards? I'm sorry I have not read all 37 pages on this thread so if this has been raised before my apologies.

The only people that will make out in a case like this are the attorneys. Period. There is no big financial victory at the end for anyone. So ultimately, it is in EF's and George's best interest to settle this case rather than to waste EF's resources dragging it on. I know George is fully committed to the site and its members though, and highly doubt he is going to agree to any settlement that hurts the community.

If I had my guess, I would think George just wants to make sure no settlement contains an agreement for continued Roidstore advertising. It sounded from reading GS's first post that this was the big thing they wanted to settle the case.

Any other updates?