D-Bol + Novaldex (+Finasteride) = poor mans ANAVAR??

[organic]

D-Bol shouldn't be used more than six weeks (liver).
Your proteinanabolism needs about 5-7 weeks to get really (!) started.
D-Bol shuts your testlevel very fast and complete down, so you need also some weeks with clom etc. to get your test at some "ok" level.
but, as soon as this happends, you already loosed your gains (well, most of them).

D-Bol itself isnt bad, BUT there are MUCH better steroids!
Less sideeffects, more effect.... AS CHEAP AS....

So, we dont have to mess with our liver!

By the way, a normal liver value test wont give you the resoult if your liver is OK!!!!
For this, ask your doc and tell him of your cycle with 17aa....
Liver values changes very fast, your liver forgets nothing!


Nolvadex ?

ohh, good....
Just mess with your body.
Maybe also here you should ask your Doc what it does!

And by the way, Dianabol causes waterretention and it ISNT only a SIDEEFFECT, its part of the EFFECT!
Using Nolvadex then will cause in muscledamage in a way....

But, you already should know this.


Greetings

I dont want to mess with somebody here, but its a fact that some steroids got a very very bad effect/sideffect ratio.
The only steroids i would recommend are Testo and maybe (!) Nandrolone.
Oral ones: Andriol, Oxa (only if under 20mg/day).

You can use what you want.

 

[dzuljas]

Liver values changes very fast, your liver forgets nothing!

LOL, what the hell are you talking about man? Last time I checked my liver didn't have any cognitive ability or long term memory lol! karma for the laughs

 

[rvd_brock]

D-Bol shouldn't be used more than six weeks (liver).
Your proteinanabolism needs about 5-7 weeks to get really (!) started.
D-Bol shuts your testlevel very fast and complete down, so you need also some weeks with clom etc. to get your test at some "ok" level.
but, as soon as this happends, you already loosed your gains (well, most of them).

D-Bol itself isnt bad, BUT there are MUCH better steroids!
Less sideeffects, more effect.... AS CHEAP AS....

So, we dont have to mess with our liver!

By the way, a normal liver value test wont give you the resoult if your liver is OK!!!!
For this, ask your doc and tell him of your cycle with 17aa....
Liver values changes very fast, your liver forgets nothing!


Nolvadex ?

ohh, good....
Just mess with your body.
Maybe also here you should ask your Doc what it does!

And by the way, Dianabol causes waterretention and it ISNT only a SIDEEFFECT, its part of the EFFECT!
Using Nolvadex then will cause in muscledamage in a way....

But, you already should know this.


Greetings

I dont want to mess with somebody here, but its a fact that some steroids got a very very bad effect/sideffect ratio.
The only steroids i would recommend are Testo and maybe (!) Nandrolone.
Oral ones: Andriol, Oxa (only if under 20mg/day).

You can use what you want.

What the hell are you talking about? If by Nandrolone, you mean Nandrolone Decaonate, or Deca, this is completely wrong. Deca has the biggest side effect of most steroids. Completely shuts down your libido. Nothing wrong w/ doing it in a cycle, but test is recommended. I don't understand why you are preaching against d-bol because of side effects but still endorsing Deca, which has the greatest side of all. It makes your dick not work.

Not meaning to flame, and d-bol is hell on your liver. You can just get some milk thistle from GNC or Meijer's or Tyler's detox from AF store, I believe. Check it out.

 

[Testopro one]

"dbol is more toxic to your liver (but, both are 17aa)."

17AA is 17AA they both do the same in that regard and also most people take more mgs of var

 

[organic]

17AA is 17AA this is right BUT thats only one part of the toxic of d-bol to the liver.
Var is also 17AA thats right, but only the 17AA part is toxic.

 

[Hardcoregrowth]

You talk about dbol shutting you down hard, and Nandrolone shuts you down the hardest.

You also recommend andriol, AKA "puss in a pill"

I also dont really understand you saying that "only the 17aa part is toxic" It doesnt make any sense bro.

 

[bicepts101]

17AA is 17AA this is right BUT thats only one part of the toxic of d-bol to the liver.
Var is also 17AA thats right, but only the 17AA part is toxic.

you're an idiot

 

[supertech69]

D-Bol shouldn't be used more than six weeks (liver).
Your proteinanabolism needs about 5-7 weeks to get really (!) started.
D-Bol shuts your testlevel very fast and complete down, so you need also some weeks with clom etc. to get your test at some "ok" level.
but, as soon as this happends, you already loosed your gains (well, most of them).

D-Bol itself isnt bad, BUT there are MUCH better steroids!
Less sideeffects, more effect.... AS CHEAP AS....

So, we dont have to mess with our liver!

By the way, a normal liver value test wont give you the resoult if your liver is OK!!!!
For this, ask your doc and tell him of your cycle with 17aa....
Liver values changes very fast, your liver forgets nothing!


Nolvadex ?

ohh, good....
Just mess with your body.
Maybe also here you should ask your Doc what it does!

And by the way, Dianabol causes waterretention and it ISNT only a SIDEEFFECT, its part of the EFFECT!
Using Nolvadex then will cause in muscledamage in a way....

But, you already should know this.


Greetings

I dont want to mess with somebody here, but its a fact that some steroids got a very very bad effect/sideffect ratio.
The only steroids i would recommend are Testo and maybe (!) Nandrolone.
Oral ones: Andriol, Oxa (only if under 20mg/day).

You can use what you want.

O.K. Bro, at this point unless you can give us some knowledgeable info to back you up, you seem to be a comlete & total jackass making these statements. By all means if you have info or real world research to back this up please lay it out, otherwise I suggest you crawl back under the rock from which you came.

 

[neurotic]

Nolvadex ?

ohh, good....
Just mess with your body.
Maybe also here you should ask your Doc what it does!

What are you talking about? Our doc? Friend, many people here know much more about Nolvadex than 99% of Docs out there, so please think it twice before stating such dumb arguments.
Ask many docs about nolvadex and they will just know it to be "an anti-estrogen for treating breast cancer" ... nothing else.

 

[evil1blake]

i wish you could ban guys for being fuckin idiots. this organic guy is giving out much advice while its apparent to everyone on this board he doesn't know shit, and this isn't the only thread. sorry for flaming but it like hes trying to come on this board and tell hundreds of well educated people that years of facts, research clinical studies, and personal trials are all bullshit.

"Your proteinanabolism needs about 5-7 weeks to get really (!) started.D-Bol shuts your testlevel very fast and complete down"

i dont believe this to be true at all, where are you getting this info cause its apparent to me you've never done dbol. and recommending deca because D-Bol shuts your testlevel very fast and complete down" not a good alternatve for that problem.