Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.
Oops! Alpha - Omega. Hahaha.
Alpha is the man.
Oops! Alpha - Omega. Hahaha.
Alpha is the man.
Sustain alpha would work bro. Gains, not as much strength as with m-drol or monsterdrol added. With out the added dht it will be a lot more bulk type gains. size most defiantly,strength to just not as much. could have problems with gyno. Keep letro on hand.
What if I added some Dermacrine to the cycle?
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In this thread we will search out the best sponsor products and stack them up for the best combos. We will explain the stack,the products in them, whats in the products and how to use them. We will tell you where to get them and how to get them cheap. Of course all questions and comments are welcome.
To get in the spirit of the season (winter bulking) today we will start with needto's (get fucking jacked) stack. Or that is what I will call it anyway.
Products in the stack
1 M-Drol 90 Caps (justaddmucle.com)
1 P-plex 90 caps (justaddmuscle.com
1 1-t (primordialperformance.com)
1 Ai's cycle support or cycle assist (justaddmuscl.come)
1 RawMCC ( http://www.agxsports.com/)
1 WAXIMAIZE Natural 5 Lbs (justaddmuscle.com)
1 Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA/ supplements 911 (justaddmuscle.com)
1 sustain alpha (primordialperformance.com)
1 unleashed and 1 postcycle ( proteinfactory.com ) (or ef store cause its cheaper)
How to take
weeks
The cycle
1-4 2 caps p-plex ed
1-4 2 caps m-drol ed
1-4 4 pumps 1-t ed
The pct.
4-8 5 pumps sustain alpha ed
4-8 3 caps unleashed ed
4-8 3 caps postcycle ed
The support and added nutrition and muscle growth enhancers.
Ai's cycle support ed
Post work out shake ed with
double serving of supplements 911 protein/ 1 serving BCAA/ 1 serving RawMCC / 1 serving WAXIMAIZE.
Next we will start looking into the products.
each cap of m-drol has 10 mg of 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol –aka oral masteron or monsterdrol/superdrol/Methylated Masterdiol. This is a dht derivative. As we have seen and heard all around the board this is a powerful compound and its a real legal steroid. We have also seen that the gains are hard and lean. Massive strength gains are common with this compound. Often called dbol with out the bloat.
SD/m-drol/monserdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen.
Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many companies and people, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, which will cause stress on blood pressure, cholesterol and lipid values. It is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen in normal anabolic steroid use. It will shut your natural testosterone production down, and ‘Post Cycle Therapy’ (PCT) is not only recommended, but frankly required. I cannot stress the fact how important a proper PCT is after a cycle of SD
this is why we have added the ai's cycle support to the cycle and also the sustain alpha for pct.
p-plex aka Phera Plex/dmt/Madol (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)
also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.
Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. It should be noted that some Progestational Activity has been noted in users of this compound.
This shit is powerful as fuck.
Next up PP"s 1-t
Lets add a little estro to ballance things out as well as some good old test production.
whats in 1-t
The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].
This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban. (1) They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and bloat. (1)
You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone
All it takes is a change on the 3rd or 17th position to convert 1-androsteone into muscle building steroid hormones. These conversions are made with the naturally occurring steroidogenic enzymes -- 3b-HSD and 17b-HSD. (3)
A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track. (4-8)
This is exactly what makes 1-T so effective -- 1-androsterone absorbs through the skin, so it’s forced to convert to the desired target hormones. (2,4-8)
Having relatively low oral bio-availability and a high price, it was a no-brainer putting 1-androsterone into a topical delivery system. Being that 1-androsterone also has a low molecular weight it can achieve up to 40% delivery through the skin with our OHV topical delivery system, compared to only about 8% orally. (13,14)
1-androsterone as a topical offers the following benefits -
* High conversion to 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone
* Zero conversion to estrogen
* Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver
* Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass
Now, this is all very nice, but we wanted to take 1-T to the next level, and create a real muscle builder.
Truthfully, some estrogen is desirable for maximum muscle growth, so we chose a hormone that could fill this void and make 1-T an exceptionally well rounded pro-steroid formula.
In comes 5-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one. [aka, DHEA]
As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat. (4-12)
Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production (11), immunity (15,16), sex drive (17), healthy cholesterol levels (11), and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]
The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Primobolan,
with all 3 compounds we have everything covered. Its like a fucking test/mast/andro/primo stack all rolled into one....
Now onto the other products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good point. For the most part this goes with out saying but it really should not. All to often we all just assume every one is taking a multi because well (they should be), but a lot of times people do not know this.Hey needto.... hey everyone.... I missed a few pages but I read the stack again and was wondering where is the multi-vitamin? When working on fat loss we are also in a way depriving our bodies of calorie intake to a degree. Which cuts out certain foods and also takes the essential vitamin and minerals out that we need. Just curious on that aspect of the stack and to see if you have any suggestions besides the obvious on I already know about but cannot afford to drink.
In the post above, Omega is great man. Between Omega, Needto, Alcatraz, Dabuffguy, And some special members of a certain group I wouldn't know what I know and just knowing these guys really want to teach others is a great thing. Feel lucky you are able to view this stuff, because others pay dearly for this info. Seriously, people pay 15-50 dollars for knowledge like this through books, and other means.
Thanks guys....
Walli
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