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Cyclotren and Monsterdrol stack for $73.99 for a limited time.

Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

I didnt get my p-plex yet..Im hoping it comes tomarrow. But Im starting this stack in the morning anyway. Monsterdrol and 1-T In the AM bros.
If I get the P-plex in the afternoon...I'll add that in. Im not waiting anymore.
 
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Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

The new batch will be double the potency of the old monsterdrol at a cost of only $5 more per bottle. They will be 10mg caps and there will be 90 caps per bottle. We will be taking all pre orders starting today and the product will ship out on the 7th. With the demand for this product that we have now Id suggest you get yours asap so u wont be left out on this batch.
Monsterdrol the Superdrol Clone Is HERE - Monsterdrol "The Ultimate Anabolic Muscle Builder" - Supplements 911 - BodyBuilding Supplements,Save on Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements at JustAddMuscle.
 
Now Taking pre orders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

The new batch will be double the potency of the old monsterdrol at a cost of only $5 more per bottle. They will be 10mg caps and there will be 90 caps per bottle. We will be taking all pre orders starting today and the product will ship out on the 7th. With the demand for this product that we have now Id suggest you get yours asap so u wont be left out on this batch.
Monsterdrol the Superdrol Clone Is HERE - Monsterdrol "The Ultimate Anabolic Muscle Builder" - Supplements 911 - BodyBuilding Supplements,Save on Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements at JustAddMuscle.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

JAM - Will the 10% Holiday Coupon I received via email be accepted for this order, if I pre-order today?
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

If its still valid you can use it together yes.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

:beer:
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

Damn. Didn't know about the code. Oh well, next time!:evil:
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

Buffguy and Needto have codes also.
 
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Just Add Muscle said:
Buffguy and Needto have codes also.
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hi jam,,,i AM THINKING OF BUYING SOME ADVANCED PCT
FROM ANABOLIC XTREME,,I SEE YOU HAve SOME OF THERE PRODUCTS ,ON YOUR SITE,,THE REASON BEING IT SHIPS TO UK IN 2 DAYS,,BETTER FOR ME LIVIN IN UK,,,.IS THIS A SIMILIAR PRODUCT TO ANY OF YOURS? ,,THANKS,,AND I TAKE IT ,THERE SUPERDROL CLONES AINT AS POTENT AS MONSTERDROL?
 
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skaman007 said:
hi jam,,,i AM THINKING OF BUYING SOME ADVANCED PCT
FROM ANABOLIC XTREME,,I SEE YOU HAve SOME OF THERE PRODUCTS ,ON YOUR SITE,,THE REASON BEING IT SHIPS TO UK IN 2 DAYS,,BETTER FOR ME LIVIN IN UK,,,.IS THIS A SIMILIAR PRODUCT TO ANY OF YOURS? ,,THANKS,,AND I TAKE IT ,THERE SUPERDROL CLONES AINT AS POTENT AS MONSTERDROL?
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They were the makers of the original Superdrol witch was discontinued by them. The advanced PCT seems to have been discontinued also, but we do stock Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support witch has excellent reviews all over the net.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

Just Add Muscle said:
They were the makers of the original Superdrol witch was discontinued by them. The advanced PCT seems to have been discontinued also, but we do stock Anabolic Innovations Post Cycle Support witch has excellent reviews all over the net.
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you are right most sites are out of stock on the advanced pct,,,tho there are a couple of bottles on ebay available just now,,,,.is it a good addition to nolva ,for me? ,,cos my pct starts next week,.thank you.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

I got 2 emails for the holiday discount...can i combine them? LOL!!!
 
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miplank said:
I got 2 emails for the holiday discount...can i combine them? LOL!!!
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lol u better use it fast becuse it expires at midnight.:evil::evil:
 
Re: Now Taking pre orders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

Nice!
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

Will any of these cause acne? I ran havoc/cyclotren/dermacrine and at the end of the cycle my back broke out like crazy.
 
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FuzzyGophar said:
Will any of these cause acne? I ran havoc/cyclotren/dermacrine and at the end of the cycle my back broke out like crazy.
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For some derma can cause some acne bro. I would try this stack minus the topical 1-t product. Other then this you should be good bro. Send me a pm and I will give you some big discounts on all of the products and more info if you like.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

I know a lot of people are ordering tons of these, guys. Get them while they are hot. I have my PM box filling with monsterdrol questions and requests, and they are not even shipping yet. This batch is going faster than the last, especially since it is double the potency for only 5 bucks more. There's not a better legal thing available in the world that gives the results that monsterdrol does. :chomp:

And PM me for a discount on Monsterdrol too:evil:.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

skaman007 said:
you are right most sites are out of stock on the advanced pct,,,tho there are a couple of bottles on ebay available just now,,,,.is it a good addition to nolva ,for me? ,,cos my pct starts next week,.thank you.
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MEH lets face it pp products are the leader in pct. Unleashed and postcycle are pretty good to. check out pp here
Primordial Performance

just ask me if you want to know about there pct products.
 
Re: Now Taking preorders on the new batch of Supplements911 Monsterdrol.

needtogetaas said:
MEH lets face it pp products are the leader in pct. Unleashed and postcycle are pretty good to. check out pp here
Primordial Performance

just ask me if you want to know about there pct products.
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I like the idea in the sponsors stack thread. Run them both (PP and PostCycle/ Unleashed). Unleashed and Post Cycle are fuckin' cheap. Unless your nuts aren't worth it to you.
 
This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn stack)

As you know, dabuffguy and myself drop the knowledge on all of you with the best products and stacks EF has to offer. We not only tell you what's best, but we go to great lengths to explain the science behind these products and we give you the discounts for them as well.

Last month we went into great detail about the "Get Fucking Jacked Stack" Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread. It was a smash hit among members. We stand behind our stacks. People are all running that stack and loving it. Check out some of the logs on this forum and also the logs on the "My Cycles" Forum.


Well, this month we have a new stack with new products. Of course, we are ready to explain it all and give you the discounts. So hold on to your dumbbells boys, this months "24 Hour Muscle Building Stack" is on it's way.

This stack will keep your body in an anabolic state 24 hours a day. You will take full advantage of every second of every hour using time-released products and hormones at the exact times you need them. From sun-up right on through the night you will be shredding fat and buliding lean mass. I will lay out the cycle from start to finish and my boy dabuff will assist me in dropping the knowledge and science behind each aspect of the cycle.

In short, we'll bring all you horses to the water well. It's your choice to drink from the fountain of muscle building...................


We start of this cycle early in the dark early hours of the morning. At which time you are ready to start your day. This we will call "Phase 1: The Power Hour" of the cycle. It's time to start your day and get your body into an anabolic and fat burning mode. Wake up, have some coffee or what ever it is you do. Now take:

1 dose LipoStim3, EndoAmp and Toco-8.

Wait 20 minutes to wake up and get your ass to the gym, running down the road or however you get there. It's time for empty stomach cardio!!!!!!

With the added fat burning effects of LipoStim3 and the anti-catabolic effects of EndoAmp and Toco-8 this is your Power Hour to assassinate fat with out having to worry about sacrificing muscle mass.

This is for the dedicated only. The people who truly want to reach their goals. This separates the men from the boys here in the early hours of the morning.


Now Phase 1 has passed and I bet you feel great. There really is something about getting up and getting out to the gym in the early morning. I fondly remember the early morning runs when I was in the army. I would get home and jump in the shower. Washing off all the sweat I really felt like I had accomplished something great for myself and for the day. This feeling will sometimes put you on a high all day. And the products are going to amplify this feeling!

Now, Phase 2: "The Hormone Booster Phase. You are all showered up, clean and feeling fucking great. Its time for the 1-T and ICON!!! squirt the 1-T on your hands and rub it in. 4 pumps all over your upper arms, shoulders, back and neck. Take one dose (2 caps) of ICON. This is going to raise your test and other muscle building hormones for the day. (More on these and the other products later).

You will feel it kick in within 45 mins. You'll have the "beast" feeling to take on the rest of the day and your workout later. Which brings us to Phase 3: "The Pre-Workout Load"

A pre-workout shake is in order, I believe. Drink this shake 1 hour before work out using my pre-workout shake recipe (to be posted later). Then, 30 minutes before working out, take 1 dose (for me 12 caps amp02). This combo is going to give you the energy, drive and super tight pumps to have the best workouts ever. Along with your newly found raised test levels from the 1-T and ICON stack you're sure to blast out some fucking crazy workouts.

Phase 4: "The Anabolic Window". This is the window hour in which it is vital to get carbs, bcaa's, and protein into the muscle. We will do just that with a protein, waxy maize and BCAA's shake from justaddmuscle (Again, recipe to be posted later)

This brings us to the last phase of the cycle. Phase 5: "The Sleep and Build Stage" This is when you will take your
BULLET PROOF night-time stack. This will keep you in a muscle building stage ALL night long.

Bonus phase (Recovery phase). 4 weeks of the Sustain Alpha 5 pumps every day. You will need this to recover and keep all the added muscle from the 1-T and ICON stack.

There you have it. Now, stay tuned as over the course of this week we explain each and every part of this stack and all the phases for you. We can all learn and grow. Enjoy!

You will need:

1 BULLET PROOF from MusclePharm.

Bullet Proof - Advanced Night Time Recovery Matrix.
30% discounts can be found by PMing Big-BK.

1 Hardcore Muscle Stack from Primordial Performance. PM myself or dabuffguy for a discount on this one. I have the big discounts. This stack will include a
twin-pack of 1-T and provides a complete 6 week cycle.

1- Sustain alpha
1- EndoAmp
1- Toco-8


1 LipoStim3 and 1 Amplify02 from (http://www.agxsports.com/) PM Omega for good deals.

1. ICON from www.justaddmuscle.com PM me for discounts

1. Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA from www.justaddmuscle.com again PM me for a discount.

1 WAXIMAIZE any flavor from www.justaddmuscle.com Once again pm me for the discount.
 
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Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

6 weeks


We didn't make that very clear. Apologies.
 
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Awesome,gonna have to give this a run after i get out of jail or off house arrest.
 
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Looking forward to hearing the recipes Needto.. Also, feel free to post up some staple support supps that you would reccomend.

Needto and Dabuff always helping us out around here. Don't get any easier than this guys.
 
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It's all about you guys. We want people to succeed is all.

You have to put forth the effort in the gym and the kitchen, and those that want the guidance have it freely given to them.

I have seen a few bros post up pics that were 4 weeks apart and I couldn't believe the progress guys are making using these stacks. Dropping fat, and gaining tons of muscle and strength. I got to hand it to all you dedicated bros out there. Great work.
 
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dabuffguy said:
6 weeks


We didn't make that very clear. Apologies.
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yes its about a 6 week stack. Will be posting up more info All month on this stack. Of course I will post up the recipes using the 011 protein,bcaa,wazymaize sups to.
 
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Some people have excessive weight, and should be careful with the lipostim3. Also, same overweight people I mention should also watch out for ICON. Actually the Amplify02 also. Remember fella's, we are talking about weight and some here are way over weight and those people are probably on some sort of blood pressure med. Just sayin' to remind them of potential dangers. We all know people who are overweight (excessively) look for just this kind of thing, without knowing the potential dangers. Just sayin'
 
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walliwalibus said:
Some people have excessive weight, and should be careful with the lipostim3. Also, same overweight people I mention should also watch out for ICON. Actually the Amplify02 also. Remember fella's, we are talking about weight and some here are way over weight and those people are probably on some sort of blood pressure med. Just sayin' to remind them of potential dangers. We all know people who are overweight (excessively) look for just this kind of thing, without knowing the potential dangers. Just sayin'
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good add bro.
 
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walliwalibus said:
Some people have excessive weight, and should be careful with the lipostim3. Also, same overweight people I mention should also watch out for ICON. Actually the Amplify02 also. Remember fella's, we are talking about weight and some here are way over weight and those people are probably on some sort of blood pressure med. Just sayin' to remind them of potential dangers. We all know people who are overweight (excessively) look for just this kind of thing, without knowing the potential dangers. Just sayin'
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Absolutely. I don't reccomened anything hormonal to people who have weight problems. You need to be already semi-healthy and definitely active to consider hormonal products and stimulants. I am fit myself, and have to watch the stims because they can wie me up.
 
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Thanks, It's a complement coming from you. I appreciate it.

A simple little disclaimer about consulting a doctor on what is the dangers of certain things in their position, like ingredients. Hell take that one, it works.

I just said it because I fall into this catagory on the low side. But my heart is an issue and people need to watch their heart rate on the machine they are on. Damn, I found a dead guy at the beginning of this year. He was on the tread mill at a 5 on the uphill degree and running at 4.5 MPH. Heart attack. It was weird because I found him five minutes into his start.

Sorry to bugger this thread.
Keep it going as I wanna see the low down :)
 
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Hey duh.... dummy me. If someone does have a condition like that lipoflame is good to go.... and maybe suggest a energy drink like Verve. Someone I admire turned me onto that.
 
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I was taking amp02 pre w/o and was gettin some killer pumps, its great stuff but now that I started my monsterdrol/cyclotren (3monsters, and 2 cyclotren ed) cycle, am 10 days in, you guys suggested not to take it so I stopped. But man I still get great pumps and my muscles are staying rock hard, I love it!! Im gettin stronger and bigger, but I need to lose some fat also, so Im gonna start the pre breakfast cardio. I have some lipostim3 and some lipoflame. I think its gonna work too. I'll take the lipostim3 in the am before cardio and should I take the lipoflame about 6 hrs later or 30 mins before workout?
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

Damn, I'm eager to start this stack, but I'm waiting on my Monsterdrol to ship on the 7th and for my AGX products. AGX makes great stuff, but shipping seems to consistently take a long time with them. It has been a week and a half now. Last time I ordered from them, it took 2 weeks. At least PP was quick with their stuff.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
Damn, I'm eager to start this stack, but I'm waiting on my Monsterdrol to ship on the 7th and for my AGX products. AGX makes great stuff, but shipping seems to consistently take a long time with them. It has been a week and a half now. Last time I ordered from them, it took 2 weeks. At least PP was quick with their stuff.
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Thanksgiving made the delay bro. I got my stuff yesterday, but it was ordered the weekend before thanksgiving. Omega is solid.
 
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The pree work out recipe. Using supplaments 911 pure whey vanilla flavor from justaddmuscle.com with your protein bcaa stack from jam you will get 1 vanilla 1 choc and 1 bcaa

Strawberry Cheesecake
Ingredients:
1 serving vanilla protein powder(I like to use 2)
3 tablespoons of Jell-O's no-bake, reduced-fat cheesecake mix
1 table spoons wheat germ
4 frozen strawberries
1-2 scoops Splenda if desired
3 ice cubes
Directions:
Blend on high till smooth and serve.

This is a blend of both quick carbs and slower carbs. Taste the bomb and will give you sustained energy threw out the work out. It settles well in the stomach and will not weigh you down. Some people have had stamoch trouble with taking the amp02. Drinking this shake a hour in advance and the amo02 1 half hour before a work out will take care of this problem.
 
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What do you recommend for us Canadians that cant get AMP02 and lipoflame?
 
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imaclown said:
What do you recommend for us Canadians that cant get AMP02 and lipoflame?
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tell your government to let it in, because it rocks.

I would just go with something that has creatine and arginine with some energy boost. NO Shotgun seems to be a favorite. Or White flood. They are all pretty good to be honest.
 
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Great posts Needto. I have had serious stomach aches on some proteins. Man, one chocolate flavored one was like, uh chalky tasting. And it just made my stomach feel so... damn I cannot describe the pain. Excellent idea. I gonna try it. AM Pre-breakfast workout tomorrow with Lipoflame and CLA. Ooops I forgot the unleashed and PCT that I always take. I decided no to amplify02 and Raw MMC til I lose weight. I don't feel a plateau yet, so I am good there. Does anyone agree that really, until we reachh plateau's that we should resort to anything but good diet and exercise? Once reached then step up? At least thats how I am gonna approach things..


Walli
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

FuzzyGophar said:
Will any of these cause acne? I ran havoc/cyclotren/dermacrine and at the end of the cycle my back broke out like crazy.
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Acne is not common on either of those hormones.
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

needtogetaas said:
As you know, dabuffguy and myself drop the knowledge on all of you with the best products and stacks EF has to offer. We not only tell you what's best, but we go to great lengths to explain the science behind these products and we give you the discounts for them as well.

Last month we went into great detail about the "Get Fucking Jacked Stack" Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread. It was a smash hit among members. We stand behind our stacks. People are all running that stack and loving it. Check out some of the logs on this forum and also the logs on the "My Cycles" Forum.


Well, this month we have a new stack with new products. Of course, we are ready to explain it all and give you the discounts. So hold on to your dumbbells boys, this months "24 Hour Muscle Building Stack" is on it's way.

This stack will keep your body in an anabolic state 24 hours a day. You will take full advantage of every second of every hour using time-released products and hormones at the exact times you need them. From sun-up right on through the night you will be shredding fat and buliding lean mass. I will lay out the cycle from start to finish and my boy dabuff will assist me in dropping the knowledge and science behind each aspect of the cycle.

In short, we'll bring all you horses to the water well. It's your choice to drink from the fountain of muscle building...................


We start of this cycle early in the dark early hours of the morning. At which time you are ready to start your day. This we will call "Phase 1: The Power Hour" of the cycle. It's time to start your day and get your body into an anabolic and fat burning mode. Wake up, have some coffee or what ever it is you do. Now take:

1 dose LipoStim3, EndoAmp and Toco-8.

Wait 20 minutes to wake up and get your ass to the gym, running down the road or however you get there. It's time for empty stomach cardio!!!!!!

With the added fat burning effects of LipoStim3 and the anti-catabolic effects of EndoAmp and Toco-8 this is your Power Hour to assassinate fat with out having to worry about sacrificing muscle mass.

This is for the dedicated only. The people who truly want to reach their goals. This separates the men from the boys here in the early hours of the morning.


Now Phase 1 has passed and I bet you feel great. There really is something about getting up and getting out to the gym in the early morning. I fondly remember the early morning runs when I was in the army. I would get home and jump in the shower. Washing off all the sweat I really felt like I had accomplished something great for myself and for the day. This feeling will sometimes put you on a high all day. And the products are going to amplify this feeling!

Now, Phase 2: "The Hormone Booster Phase. You are all showered up, clean and feeling fucking great. Its time for the 1-T and ICON!!! squirt the 1-T on your hands and rub it in. 4 pumps all over your upper arms, shoulders, back and neck. Take one dose (2 caps) of ICON. This is going to raise your test and other muscle building hormones for the day. (More on these and the other products later).

You will feel it kick in within 45 mins. You'll have the "beast" feeling to take on the rest of the day and your workout later. Which brings us to Phase 3: "The Pre-Workout Load"

A pre-workout shake is in order, I believe. Drink this shake 1 hour before work out using my pre-workout shake recipe (to be posted later). Then, 30 minutes before working out, take 1 dose (for me 12 caps amp02). This combo is going to give you the energy, drive and super tight pumps to have the best workouts ever. Along with your newly found raised test levels from the 1-T and ICON stack you're sure to blast out some fucking crazy workouts.

Phase 4: "The Anabolic Window". This is the window hour in which it is vital to get carbs, bcaa's, and protein into the muscle. We will do just that with a protein, waxy maize and BCAA's shake from justaddmuscle (Again, recipe to be posted later)

This brings us to the last phase of the cycle. Phase 5: "The Sleep and Build Stage" This is when you will take your
BULLET PROOF night-time stack. This will keep you in a muscle building stage ALL night long.

Bonus phase (Recovery phase). 4 weeks of the Sustain Alpha 5 pumps every day. You will need this to recover and keep all the added muscle from the 1-T and ICON stack.

There you have it. Now, stay tuned as over the course of this week we explain each and every part of this stack and all the phases for you. We can all learn and grow. Enjoy!

You will need:

1 BULLET PROOF from MusclePharm.

Bullet Proof - Advanced Night Time Recovery Matrix.
30% discounts can be found by PMing Big-BK.

1 Hardcore Muscle Stack from Primordial Performance. PM myself or dabuffguy for a discount on this one. I have the big discounts. This stack will include a
twin-pack of 1-T and provides a complete 6 week cycle.

1- Sustain alpha
1- EndoAmp
1- Toco-8


1 LipoStim3 and 1 Amplify02 from (http://www.agxsports.com/) PM Omega for good deals.

1. ICON from BodyBuilding Supplements, Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements Wholesale all at JustAddMuscle - BodyBuilding Supplements,Save on Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements at JustAddMuscle. PM me for discounts

1. Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA from BodyBuilding Supplements, Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements Wholesale all at JustAddMuscle - BodyBuilding Supplements,Save on Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements at JustAddMuscle. again PM me for a discount.

1 WAXIMAIZE any flavor from BodyBuilding Supplements, Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements Wholesale all at JustAddMuscle - BodyBuilding Supplements,Save on Sports Nutrition and Sport Supplements at JustAddMuscle. Once again pm me for the discount.
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Phase 4: "The Anabolic Window". This is the window hour in which it is vital to get carbs, bcaa's, and protein into the muscle. We will do just that with a protein, waxy maize and BCAA's shake from justaddmuscle (Again, recipe to be posted later)

Phase 4 shake recipe!!!!!!!!!!!!


The fatty cake.
This is for hard gainers only
Ingredients:
3 SNICKERS bars
4 eggs
3 cups milk
1 serving chocolate protein powder


ok ok just a joke do not use this with this stack lmao





no here is the real shake recipe for this stack.



Ingredients:
1 large orange peeled and cut up
1 serving fruit punch waxy maize
4 or 5 frozen strawberries
double serving of sups 911 choc protein powder.
1 serving sups 911 bcaa's
3 ice cubs

Its a big drink so sit back and enjoy it well you take a breather. :D:D:D
 
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walliwalibus said:
Hey duh.... dummy me. If someone does have a condition like that lipoflame is good to go.... and maybe suggest a energy drink like Verve. Someone I admire turned me onto that.
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Man that gives me a great idea. For bros that want to cut they can get their pre work out and all there vitamins and minerals and antioxidants with Verve. You guys should include that in a healthy diet plan also.
 
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I am a little confused on the drinks so far. do we add any water to these? I am a little slow.

I like this stack. I think I will be starting this one after the first of the year. I am on monsterdrol right now, and will be starting PCT w/ sustain in 2 weeks. I figure I will be ready to shed some extra fat after the holidays, and this looks perfect.
 
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pdiddy4280 said:
I am a little confused on the drinks so far. do we add any water to these? I am a little slow.

I like this stack. I think I will be starting this one after the first of the year. I am on monsterdrol right now, and will be starting PCT w/ sustain in 2 weeks. I figure I will be ready to shed some extra fat after the holidays, and this looks perfect.
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If you notice both shakes have fruit,frozen fruit,and ice cubs.

So you may think there is no water but all 3 of water. After all ice cubs are frozen water right? :heart::heart:

using ice and frozen fruit makes the drink much colder and taste better. If any of the shakes are still a little to thick just add a little water.
 
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Needto, Ice is frozen water? Explain........ LOL. This is a great thing here. This is really a good thing for us 35 and older guys who have neglected their body and now wanna change it. This is the start, but you gotta have that diet and (cough cough) cardio in check. For some reason, when that "cardio" word is used people tend to think just treadmill or cycle or that e word I won't spell machine. Part of that is true. But, in cardio, your goal is your target heart rate. You wanna get that rate in the range where your body is burning to its maximum but at the same time not going to give you a heart attack. You could use Machines also to do this besides those mentioned above. I believe Sweed taught me that, and someone else, hell I got tons of info from people. Anyway, jump rope is good. Add push-ups in between 3 minute sets of jump ropes. Most of all make it interesting. Don't get yourself bored with it. Repetition gets old, I mean doing the exact same thing everyday. Switch it all up. Remember, its your target heart rate you want.

Running, Soccer, Triathlon Races | Online Registration, Training Plans & Log, Youth Sports Drills | Active.com is a great site to get your target heart rate. I suggest checking it out. I wouldn't want no EF buddies of mine falling over. I found someone like that at a Gym at the apartments I used to live in. Sucked man. I could tell by where he was laying, and how long he had been there (treadmill was still counting) that he was goner and he knew he was gonna be. So please goto...

Running, Soccer, Triathlon Races | Online Registration, Training Plans & Log, Youth Sports Drills | Active.com

And get that rate.

I am working on a site that will deal with guys like me, who are a bit larger and such. I am not ashamed of it, I just know it has to be done.

Sorry needto, great info bro....... keep it coming.

Oh, and guy and gals.... buy his cookbook and this stuff would be readily available. I have it..... yum yum!
 
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PHASE 2: THE HORMONE BOOSTER. The meat of the stack.




ICON


ICON carries the active NAS called 11-Ketotestosterone. An NAS is a "NATURALLY ANABOLIC SUBSTANCE". So, ICON is not a steroid like monsterdrol or cyclotren, but it is a naturally occuring anabolic hormone. The reason it is not considered a steroid is because a steroid technically is a synthetic (man made) derivative of a naturally occuring hormone.

11-Ketotestosterone sits at the top in the hierarchy of naturally occurring anabolic substances known as the 11-Oxygenated family of endogenous agents. Recognized as the main androgenic hormone in many species of fish, 11-Ketotestosterone also serves a secondary role in human endocrinology as an endogenous adrenal substance capable of exerting powerful anabolic effects.

In addition to its role as a muscle building hypertrophic agent, 11-Ketotestosterone is known to be a potent inhibitor of the enzyme 11β -Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type-1 reductase. This enzyme catalyzes the transformation of cortisone into the catabolic and lipogenic hormone cortisol in many target tissues throughout the body. Inhibition of this enzyme is known to have numerous beneficial effects upon physical health such as decreased visceral fat, greater insulin sensitivity, improved blood lipid profiles, and healthier vascular tone.

11-Ketotestosterone does not convert to DHT nor does it aromatize to estrogens, and being a natural compound native to our own bodies it is metabolized in the liver efficiently and safely.


ICON is not methylated and is afe to take in high doses. It will not effect your cholesterol levels and may actually even improve them.







1-T

PP always explains his products much better than I could, so here:

You can also click the link "1-T" in my signature to see all the diagrams of the hormone conversions that take place.



"The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].

This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban.

They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and gyno.


Take a look at the hormone conversions below. You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone.

A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track.

Zero conversion to estrogen

Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver

Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass



The second compund is DHEA. As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat.

Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production, immunity, sex drive, healthy cholesterol levels, and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]

The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Anavar, Primobolan, or Masteron – all of which produce solid gains of ripped, hard, lean muscle."




The advantages of stacking together ICON and 1-T are many.

1st, you don't need to use cycle support or a liver supplement. The will not jack up your cholesterol o ryour blood pressure nor are they liver toxic. The both help you to get rid of fat and build plenty of lean muscle at the same time. If you are looking to shred the fat, build the muscle and avoid all the garbage side effects that come from oral methylated steroids, this stack is THE one to use.

The best part of all is that you wil build tons of muscle and get a much higher quality to the muscle and your physique. AWESOME!
 
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dabuffguy said:
PHASE 2: THE HORMONE BOOSTER. The meat of the stack.




ICON


ICON carries the active NAS called 11-Ketotestosterone. An NAS is a "NATURALLY ANABOLIC SUBSTANCE". So, ICON is not a steroid like monsterdrol or cyclotren, but it is a naturally occuring anabolic hormone. The reason it is not considered a steroid is because a steroid technically is a synthetic (man made) derivative of a naturally occuring hormone.

11-Ketotestosterone sits at the top in the hierarchy of naturally occurring anabolic substances known as the 11-Oxygenated family of endogenous agents. Recognized as the main androgenic hormone in many species of fish, 11-Ketotestosterone also serves a secondary role in human endocrinology as an endogenous adrenal substance capable of exerting powerful anabolic effects.

In addition to its role as a muscle building hypertrophic agent, 11-Ketotestosterone is known to be a potent inhibitor of the enzyme 11β -Hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase type-1 reductase. This enzyme catalyzes the transformation of cortisone into the catabolic and lipogenic hormone cortisol in many target tissues throughout the body. Inhibition of this enzyme is known to have numerous beneficial effects upon physical health such as decreased visceral fat, greater insulin sensitivity, improved blood lipid profiles, and healthier vascular tone.

11-Ketotestosterone does not convert to DHT nor does it aromatize to estrogens, and being a natural compound native to our own bodies it is metabolized in the liver efficiently and safely.


ICON is not methylated and is afe to take in high doses. It will not effect your cholesterol levels and may actually even improve them.







1-T

PP always explains his products much better than I could, so here:

You can also click the link "1-T" in my signature to see all the diagrams of the hormone conversions that take place.



"The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].

This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban.

They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and gyno.


Take a look at the hormone conversions below. You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone.

A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track.

Zero conversion to estrogen

Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver

Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass



The second compund is DHEA. As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat.

Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production, immunity, sex drive, healthy cholesterol levels, and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]

The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Anavar, Primobolan, or Masteron – all of which produce solid gains of ripped, hard, lean muscle."




The advantages of stacking together ICON and 1-T are many.

1st, you don't need to use cycle support or a liver supplement. The will not jack up your cholesterol o ryour blood pressure nor are they liver toxic. The both help you to get rid of fat and build plenty of lean muscle at the same time. If you are looking to shred the fat, build the muscle and avoid all the garbage side effects that come from oral methylated steroids, this stack is THE one to use.

The best part of all is that you wil build tons of muscle and get a much higher quality to the muscle and your physique. AWESOME!
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I was wondering when your lazy ass was going to pick up some slack :p

Nice. Will be adding more to this thread all month. PM ether buff or myself for info and discounts. We are always here to help.
 
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Icon is great..... And I have thought and am still thinking of adding to my collection since the sides really are not bad at all. If I add I will after a doctor appointment next week as I am having slight dull aching problems in a certain area of my body. Once I get the OK I might just do it. I have read so much about Icon, and I was excited about it.......
 
Need help with P-Plex cycle

I have some p-plex, cyclotren, and m-drol laying around. I was wanting to do a p-plex cycle. Whay do you guys recommend?
 
Re: Need help with P-Plex cycle

bigdofba said:
I have some p-plex, cyclotren, and m-drol laying around. I was wanting to do a p-plex cycle. Whay do you guys recommend?
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Bulk on the Cyclotren and P-plex at 3 of each per day for 4 weeks then switch the plex for m-drol at 3 per day with 3 cyclotren per day and run for another 4 to harden up on high calories and moderate carbs.
 
Re: Need help with P-Plex cycle

What would be a good PCT for just a P-plex cycle?

Say I ran 30mgs a day for 4 weeks.
 
Re: Need help with P-Plex cycle

bigdofba said:
What would be a good PCT for just a P-plex cycle?

Say I ran 30mgs a day for 4 weeks.
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I would always include sustain. Not only for the test boosting effects, but for the positive effects on cholesterol and heart/vascular health.

PM me for discounts!
 
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I'm starting to think I'll never get to start this stack. I began ordering these products the day after this thread was started, and I still don't have everything. Does anyone know of a good alternative to Raw MCC? I've all but given up on ever getting any from AGX. Ordered it 2.5 weeks ago, and my order was cancelled yesterday. I'm not sure what's going on, but Alpha seems to be hard to get a hold of.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
I'm starting to think I'll never get to start this stack. I began ordering these products the day after this thread was started, and I still don't have everything. Does anyone know of a good alternative to Raw MCC? I've all but given up on ever getting any from AGX. Ordered it 2.5 weeks ago, and my order was cancelled yesterday. I'm not sure what's going on, but Alpha seems to be hard to get a hold of.
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CREATINE EXTREME Creatine Extreme By Champion Nutrition - CREATINE EXTREME LEMONADE 2LB - Champion Nutrition - Bodybuilding supplements at wholesale prices.BSN,Muscletech,Universal.

will do the trick bro. Any of the flavors will work. Pm me for a discount. Rawmcc would be best but if omega is dropping the ball then this is the next best.

Well truthfully speaking CREATINE phosphate would be the next best thing. EAS used to have a bad ass CREATINE phosphate but I can not find it anymore. I would looke for a brand at jam that has phosphate.

Time for a quick and simple biology lesson. In your body you have a compound called ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate). Think of ATP as an energy containing compound. What is important to know about ATP is that the body can very quickly get energy from a ATP reaction. You have other sources of energy such as carbohydrates and fat - but they take longer to convert into a useable energy source. When you are doing an intense quick burst activity - such as lifting a weight or sprinting, your muscles must contract and need a quick source of energy. This immediate energy comes from ATP.

Okay - still with us? Here is where it gets interesting. When your muscles use ATP for energy a chemical process happens where the ATP is broken down into two simpler chemicals ADP (adenosine di-phosphate) and inorganic phosphate. This process of ATP turning into ADP releases the energy which gives your muscles the ability to contract. Unfortunately, we do not have an endless supply of ATP. In fact, your muscles only contain enough ATP to last about 10-15 seconds at maximum exertion. In case you were wondering - no, the ADP can not be used to create more energy for your muscles.

Here is where the creatine comes in - or more specifically the creatine phosphate (CP). We don't want to go into great detail on creatine vs. creatine phosphate now (that is in a later article) - all you need to know now is that the majority of creatine that is stored in the muscles bonds with abundant phosphorus stores in the muscles and is converted into Creatine Phosphate (CP). CP is able to react with the ADP in your body and turn "useless" ADP back into the "super useful" energy source - ATP. More ATP in your body means more fuel for your muscles.

2. Volumization of your muscles

Looks like we just made up that word -Volumization - doesn't it? Actually, it's just a fancy name for the process of pulling fluid into the muscle cells and thus increasing the volume of the muscles. Creatine has been shown to pull water into your muscle cells, which increases the size of your muscles. Don't get to excited - it is not clear how great an effect this has. Point #1 is a much clearer benefit of creatine.

3. Buffer Lactic Acid build-up

New research has shown that creatine can help buffer lactic acid that builds-up in the muscles during exercise. This leads to that nasty burning feel you get in your muscles. Scientifically it is a complicated process - basically the creatine bonds with a Hydrogen ion and that helps delay the build up of lactic acid. More research needs to be done to see if this point is true.

4. Enhances Protein Synthesis

There is some data to indicate that creatine helps put the body in a more anabolic state where protein synthesis can occur. The more protein synthesis - the greater the muscle gain.

Well - there you have what creatine does in a very simplified nutshell. Of all 4 points - point #1 is the most use of creatine in the body. The other points are more debated - but still look to be valid
 
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jugarelly said:
I'm starting to think I'll never get to start this stack. I began ordering these products the day after this thread was started, and I still don't have everything. Does anyone know of a good alternative to Raw MCC? I've all but given up on ever getting any from AGX. Ordered it 2.5 weeks ago, and my order was cancelled yesterday. I'm not sure what's going on, but Alpha seems to be hard to get a hold of.
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How 'bout your Monsterdrol? Did that come in for you? I believe it has started shipping this week.

JAM?
 
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Thanks for the science lesson and for the recommendation. I have some creatine phosphate at home, but it mixes worse than any creatine i've ever used, so i'll browse around JAM's store and see what I find.

Was the EAS stuff you were talking about called Phosphagen HP? If so, I used to take that stuff years ago when all that Body for Life stuff was big.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
Thanks for the science lesson and for the recommendation. I have some creatine phosphate at home, but it mixes worse than any creatine i've ever used, so i'll browse around JAM's store and see what I find.

Was the EAS stuff you were talking about called Phosphagen HP? If so, I used to take that stuff years ago when all that Body for Life stuff was big.
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Ya it does mix like shit though. You would have to take it after the shake on its own. Yes its the eas kind. I used to love that stuff. Worked great for me.
 
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2evil said:
How 'bout your Monsterdrol? Did that come in for you? I believe it has started shipping this week.

JAM?
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No Monsterdrol yet, but I assume I'll have it within the next week. I looked on my account at JAM's store, and it hasn't shipped yet. Hopefully, I'll be ready to start soon. I want to get running with this so I'll have some time to take off before I begin a cutting stack in the early Spring.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
No Monsterdrol yet, but I assume I'll have it within the next week. I looked on my account at JAM's store, and it hasn't shipped yet. Hopefully, I'll be ready to start soon. I want to get running with this so I'll have some time to take off before I begin a cutting stack in the early Spring.
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I got that covvered in my other thread lol...

Jam is always good. He will make up for it if its too late. He always does.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

needtogetaas said:
EAS used to have a bad ass CREATINE phosphate but I can not find it anymore.
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I looked on the EAS site, and they still sell the Phosphagen HP. It's also on a bunch of online shops for much cheaper. I remember taking the fruit punch flavor, and it was pretty good.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
I looked on the EAS site, and they still sell the Phosphagen HP. It's also on a bunch of online shops for much cheaper. I remember taking the fruit punch flavor, and it was pretty good.
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I was all about the lime flavor. :evil:
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

needtogetaas said:
I got that covvered in my other thread lol...

Jam is always good. He will make up for it if its too late. He always does.
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Just hoping to be able to start by the 15th... We'll see.
 
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Alpha is the man. It seems my package was lost. He has refunded me the price of my order and is delivering everything free of charge as he is with all lost orders. That's a good businessman.
 
Re: Need help with P-Plex cycle

bigdofba said:
I decided that I want to do a P-Plex only cylce. What type of gains should I expect from this. Also, would a lighter PCT therapy be needed?
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Sustain alpha would work bro. Gains, not as much strength as with m-drol or monsterdrol added. With out the added dht it will be a lot more bulk type gains. size most defiantly,strength to just not as much. could have problems with gyno. Keep letro on hand.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

jugarelly said:
Alpha is the man. It seems my package was lost. He has refunded me the price of my order and is delivering everything free of charge as he is with all lost orders. That's a good businessman.
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I knew omega was around somewhere. Its not like him to ever drop the ball like that. He has been one of the best around ef for years now.
 
Re: Need help with P-Plex cycle

needtogetaas said:
Sustain alpha would work bro. Gains, not as much strength as with m-drol or monsterdrol added. With out the added dht it will be a lot more bulk type gains. size most defiantly,strength to just not as much. could have problems with gyno. Keep letro on hand.
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What if I added some Dermacrine to the cycle?
 
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Sustain Alpha is a natural testosterone boosting cream that stimulates the body's own production of testosterone. This supports male vitality, libido, and erectile function. The formula dries within minutes, leaving the skin clean and moisturized. At five pumps Sustain Alpha will last 23 applications, at 6 pumps it will last 19 applications.

Sustain Alpha does not contain any pro-hormones or steroidal ingredients. Instead, we packed Sustain Alpha with botanical extracts, and "aromatic-stimulators" to surge testosterone production. This makes Sustain Alpha a safe, healthy and legal male enhancement formula for virtually anybody. By increasing the "testosterone-production-signal" from the brain, Sustain Alpha increases the production of testosterone from the testes. More testosterone means more strength, confidence and sexual prowess.

Consider Sustain Alpha the natural alternative to Dermacrine. Sustain Alpha can also be used as post cycle therapy (PCT) for pro-hormone products (i.e. Dermacrine) to maximize testosterone production after a cycle.

How exactly does Sustain Alpha increase Testosterone?

To understand how Sustain Alpha increases Testosterone it’s important to understand the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Testicular-Axis (HPTA).

In a normal healthy male, luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) are sent from the brain (the pituitary) to stimulate the testes to make testosterone and sperm.

The release of LH & FSH from the pituitary is stimulated by Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. The hypothalamus is stimulated to produce GnRH when it senses low levels of steroid hormones, such as testosterone and estrogen. (hypothalamus [GnRH] --- > pituitary [LH & FSH]--- > testes [testosterone])

On the other hand, when the brain detects high levels of steroid hormones it suppresses the release of GnRH, LH & FSH, and eventually testosterone production. This is called the negative feedback loop – the normal daily rhythm of hormone production.


HPTA

Sustain Alpha increases GrRH release by preventing the negative feedback of steroid hormones on the hypothalamus through GABAergic modulation and estrogen blockage.

In other words, Sustain Alpha offsets the suppression of steroid hormones in the brain, allowing the body to produce more testosterone than it normally would, by up-regulating GnRH and LH & FSH.

Sustain Alpha pushes LH & FSH even higher by direct aromatic stimulation of the hypothalamic and pituitary cells. This is accomplished with natural volatile oils that absorb and penetrate directly into the hypothalamic region upon inhalation.

* Remember, maintaining normal levels of estrogen is an important part of maintaining libido, muscle recovery, and testicular function. Therefore, it is undesirable to overly suppress estrogen levels. The natural anti-estrogens in Sustain Alpha gently balance and control estrogen levels, without overly suppressing them.

What sort of results should I expect?

As testosterone climbs to its maximum potential, the following results become noticeable -

*
Improved libido
*
More frequent & harder erections
*
Increased ejaculatory volume
*
Improved sense of well-being & social confidence
*
More prominent gains in the gym

What are the ingredients and how do they work?

The first ingredient in Sustain Alpha, that has recently become well known for its heart-health and life-extending benefits, is resveratrol. Aside from the noteworthy health benefits, resveratrol is an "estrogen blocker" because of its unique chemical structure which binds to the estrogen receptor, thus blocking estrogenic activity. (1,2) As discussed before, blocking estrogen can help increase LH & FSH levels.

The estrogen modulating effects of resveratrol have been proven to dramatically increase testosterone levels, fertility, and erection strength in several animal studies, without any side-effects. (3-4) Other research with resveratrol has uncovered its supportive role in healthy blood vessel function - a great benefit for any male interested in improving his heart-health and erection fullness. (4,9)

The second ingredient in Sustain Alpha is 7,8 Benzoflavone. This neuro-active flavone has the ability to pass the blood brain barrier and block the suppression GnRH release through modulation of the GABAergic receptor complex. (6,7,21-30)

7,8 Benzoflavone also has the unique ability to reduce production of potentially dangerous and cancer causing estrogenic metabolites, such as 4-hydroxylated quinines. (11) Other research has shown 7,8 benzoflavone to have positive effects on libido due to its aphrodisiac and anxiolytic (anxiety-relieving) effects. (10-13)

The final assembly of ingredients is a proprietary blend of essential oils including diallyldisulfide, clary sage, sandalwood, ginger, and lime. Aside from being readily absorbed by the skin, these essential oils are rapidly taken into the body by inhalation during product application. (14,20) That’s right, the oils evaporate, enter the nasal cavity, and immediately enter the brain by passing the nasal mucosa. This offers instant oxygenation and stimulation of the hypothalamus and pituitary glands through activation of cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) (15-19
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

needtogetaas said:
In this thread we will search out the best sponsor products and stack them up for the best combos. We will explain the stack,the products in them, whats in the products and how to use them. We will tell you where to get them and how to get them cheap. Of course all questions and comments are welcome.

To get in the spirit of the season (winter bulking) today we will start with needto's (get fucking jacked) stack. Or that is what I will call it anyway.

Products in the stack
1 M-Drol 90 Caps (justaddmucle.com)
1 P-plex 90 caps (justaddmuscle.com
1 1-t (primordialperformance.com)
1 Ai's cycle support or cycle assist (justaddmuscl.come)
1 RawMCC ( http://www.agxsports.com/)
1 WAXIMAIZE Natural 5 Lbs (justaddmuscle.com)
1 Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA/ supplements 911 (justaddmuscle.com)
1 sustain alpha (primordialperformance.com)
1 unleashed and 1 postcycle ( proteinfactory.com ) (or ef store cause its cheaper)


How to take
weeks
The cycle
1-4 2 caps p-plex ed
1-4 2 caps m-drol ed
1-4 4 pumps 1-t ed

The pct.
4-8 5 pumps sustain alpha ed
4-8 3 caps unleashed ed
4-8 3 caps postcycle ed

The support and added nutrition and muscle growth enhancers.
Ai's cycle support ed

Post work out shake ed with
double serving of supplements 911 protein/ 1 serving BCAA/ 1 serving RawMCC / 1 serving WAXIMAIZE.



Next we will start looking into the products.
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needtogetaas said:
each cap of m-drol has 10 mg of 2a,17a di methyl etiocholan 3-one, 17b-ol –aka oral masteron or monsterdrol/superdrol/Methylated Masterdiol. This is a dht derivative. As we have seen and heard all around the board this is a powerful compound and its a real legal steroid. We have also seen that the gains are hard and lean. Massive strength gains are common with this compound. Often called dbol with out the bloat.

SD/m-drol/monserdrol is described as a cross between Anavar and Masteron but in reality, it is a super-saturated, or 2-reduced, form of Anadrol. Anadrol has a =C-OH at the 2nd position, and if this is totally saturated (reduced) with hydrogen, it gives -CH3. Another way to describe it is that it is a 2a-17a-dimethyl of drostanolone, or Masteron. Masteron has a single methyl group at the 2nd position. Superdrol is a modification of this structure by adding another methyl group at the 17th position. With its inability to aromatize , since it’s already reduced at the 5th position, it cannot make estrogen.
Despite being marketed as a supplement available legally and deemed another 'pro-hormone' or 'pro-steroid' by many companies and people, there is nothing very 'pro' about SD. In reality, SD is a steroid, and that is what the reader must primarily understand. It is methylated, so will cause stress on the liver, which will cause stress on blood pressure, cholesterol and lipid values. It is an anabolic/androgenic steroid, thus it has the potential to give side effects normally seen in normal anabolic steroid use. It will shut your natural testosterone production down, and ‘Post Cycle Therapy’ (PCT) is not only recommended, but frankly required. I cannot stress the fact how important a proper PCT is after a cycle of SD

this is why we have added the ai's cycle support to the cycle and also the sustain alpha for pct.

p-plex aka Phera Plex/dmt/Madol (17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol)

also known as DMT is a potent synthetic oral anabolic steroid, first patented in 1961 by Max Huffman of the Lasdon Foundation115. This agent was never made available as a commercial prescription drug product, and saw only limited investigation in the mid-1960's before disappearing into research obscurity. Madol remained hidden in the library bookshelves for decades, until remerging in 2005 as a new "designer steroid" of interest to international sports doping officials. This was due to the confiscation of a sample of DMT at the Canadian border in December of 2003, where it was found in the possession of Canadian sprinter Derek Dueck during a routine vehicle inspection. The DMT sample remained nameless in a Customs warehouse for over a year, until officials from the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) finally became involved and had it tested and identified. Madol is only the third never commercially marketed anabolic steroid found to be in use by athletes, following norbolethone and THG.

Unlike its distant cousin methyltestosterone, Madol is unable to convert to estrogen. This means that its use should not impart the normal estrogenic side effects such as increased water retention, fat buildup, or gynecomastia. This makes it an excellent agent to use during lean tissue building cycles, having an effect somewhat along the lines of Winstrol or trenbolone. It can also be used in bulking cycles. It is neither estrogenic nor significantly androgenic, however, and therefore not going to provide the same sheer-mass-building benefits that an injectable testosterone would. In general, we can say that Madol is functionally far removed from its cousin methyltestosterone, which is known for being a problematic side-effect-producing mass builder and a terrible agent to use during cutting cycles. The one principle side effect it does share with methyltestosterone, however, its hepatotoxicity. One should respect this agent in this regard, and be conservative with its dosage and duration of use as one would any other c-17 alpha alkylated oral. It should be noted that some Progestational Activity has been noted in users of this compound.

This shit is powerful as fuck.

Next up PP"s 1-t

Lets add a little estro to ballance things out as well as some good old test production.
whats in 1-t
The first compound is 1-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one [aka, 1-androsterone™ or 1-DHEA].
This steroid molecule is very closely related to the original 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone that were very popular prior to the 2004 pro-hormone ban. (1) They produced solid gains in lean muscle within a short period of time, with low side-effects. They where know as “dry” steroid hormones, because they didn’t convert to estrogen or promote water retention and bloat. (1)

You will see 1-androsterone is only one step away from 1-androstenediol and two steps away from 1-testosterone

All it takes is a change on the 3rd or 17th position to convert 1-androsteone into muscle building steroid hormones. These conversions are made with the naturally occurring steroidogenic enzymes -- 3b-HSD and 17b-HSD. (3)

A special advantage of delivering the 1-androsterone topically is the super concentration of steroidogenic enzymes in the skin, compared to a relatively low amount throughout the digestive track. (4-8)

This is exactly what makes 1-T so effective -- 1-androsterone absorbs through the skin, so it’s forced to convert to the desired target hormones. (2,4-8)

Having relatively low oral bio-availability and a high price, it was a no-brainer putting 1-androsterone into a topical delivery system. Being that 1-androsterone also has a low molecular weight it can achieve up to 40% delivery through the skin with our OHV topical delivery system, compared to only about 8% orally. (13,14)

1-androsterone as a topical offers the following benefits -

* High conversion to 1-androstenediol and 1-testosterone
* Zero conversion to estrogen
* Non-methylated and non-toxic to the liver
* Quality gains in dense lean muscle mass

Now, this is all very nice, but we wanted to take 1-T to the next level, and create a real muscle builder.

Truthfully, some estrogen is desirable for maximum muscle growth, so we chose a hormone that could fill this void and make 1-T an exceptionally well rounded pro-steroid formula.

In comes 5-Androstene-3b-ol, 17-one. [aka, DHEA]

As you may know, DHEA is the main active ingredient in our other topical product Dermacrine – which has proven benefits for improving body composition and strength. As with 1-androsterone, the DHEA is more effective as a topical because it is forced to interact with the steroidogenic enzymes and convert to more powerful anabolic and androgenic hormones that can build muscle and burn fat. (4-12)

Of course, DHEA can also convert to estrogen which supports GH production (11), immunity (15,16), sex drive (17), healthy cholesterol levels (11), and perhaps most importantly – rapid gains in muscle mass and size – and the engorged feeling of anabolism in the muscles. [known as the pump]

The benefits of DHEA [applied through the skin] could be compared to a moderate dose of injectable testosterone. On the other hand, 1-androsterone could be compared to the anabolic steroid Primobolan,

with all 3 compounds we have everything covered. Its like a fucking test/mast/andro/primo stack all rolled into one....



Now onto the other products!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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PM ME FOR DISCOUNTS ON Primordial Performance
PRODUCTS AND Justaddmuscle.com products.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

Hey needto.... hey everyone.... I missed a few pages but I read the stack again and was wondering where is the multi-vitamin? When working on fat loss we are also in a way depriving our bodies of calorie intake to a degree. Which cuts out certain foods and also takes the essential vitamin and minerals out that we need. Just curious on that aspect of the stack and to see if you have any suggestions besides the obvious on I already know about but cannot afford to drink.

In the post above, Omega is great man. Between Omega, Needto, Alcatraz, Dabuffguy, And some special members of a certain group I wouldn't know what I know and just knowing these guys really want to teach others is a great thing. Feel lucky you are able to view this stuff, because others pay dearly for this info. Seriously, people pay 15-50 dollars for knowledge like this through books, and other means.

Thanks guys....
Walli
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

walliwalibus said:
Hey needto.... hey everyone.... I missed a few pages but I read the stack again and was wondering where is the multi-vitamin? When working on fat loss we are also in a way depriving our bodies of calorie intake to a degree. Which cuts out certain foods and also takes the essential vitamin and minerals out that we need. Just curious on that aspect of the stack and to see if you have any suggestions besides the obvious on I already know about but cannot afford to drink.

In the post above, Omega is great man. Between Omega, Needto, Alcatraz, Dabuffguy, And some special members of a certain group I wouldn't know what I know and just knowing these guys really want to teach others is a great thing. Feel lucky you are able to view this stuff, because others pay dearly for this info. Seriously, people pay 15-50 dollars for knowledge like this through books, and other means.

Thanks guys....
Walli
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Good point. For the most part this goes with out saying but it really should not. All to often we all just assume every one is taking a multi because well (they should be), but a lot of times people do not know this.

Any and every one should be taking a multi-vitamin regardless of whether they are on this cycle or not. Just working out depletes the body. So of course we should all be taking one.

Proteinfactory.com has some of the best multi's
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

Thanks Needto, that was for the newbies ya know. A just in case....... ya know what I mean..... DX-7 sounds real nice besides the one we all should be drinking. I can't wait til I can buy that stuff......
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

walliwalibus said:
In the post above, Omega is great man. Between Omega, Needto, Alcatraz, Dabuffguy, And some special members of a certain group I wouldn't know what I know and just knowing these guys really want to teach others is a great thing. Feel lucky you are able to view this stuff, because others pay dearly for this info. Seriously, people pay 15-50 dollars for knowledge like this through books, and other means.

Thanks guys....
Walli
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Yeah, about that....

I'm gonna need your credit card info to accept payment for this thread.

www.pay-up_bitch.com

^^^ use this link to make payment





Lol, just playing. That's what we're here for bro-hemoth
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

At 60 pills per bottle, and 2 pills per day of Icon, should you wait at least 2 weeks before starting the icon since it I'd not enough to last the entire six week cycle?
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

hammerstrong33 said:
At 60 pills per bottle, and 2 pills per day of Icon, should you wait at least 2 weeks before starting the icon since it I'd not enough to last the entire six week cycle?
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True or you could order 2 bottles :evil:
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

Gotcha! One more question that I was thinking about. I understand that the endoamp and toco-8 are used on cycle to help reduce catabolism during morning cardio, but whats the benefit of using it with the 1-t and icon instead of post cycle with the sustain?
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

Question (hand raised)....... say you have some people here who are bigger than they should be, you know that nasty F word and not what you do in bed, should this person be taking a, what I call a super supplement (prohormones). Wouldn't that build muscle under the fat. This is for the beginners out there, not unlike myself for one. Shouldn't they (we) focus on losing some inches before we gain some inches in other area's. Just a thought that has occured since some here might be in this gray area that has been found. By that I mean the difference between someone starting out and someone who is well into a lifting routine.
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

hammerstrong33 said:
Gotcha! One more question that I was thinking about. I understand that the endoamp and toco-8 are used on cycle to help reduce catabolism during morning cardio, but whats the benefit of using it with the 1-t and icon instead of post cycle with the sustain?
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Price is about the only reason Why I would not say to run them both all the way threw. The products have many uses and during pct they can be very effective. When putting the stack together I thought about price. I thought about best bang for the buck and this is the reason I did not say to use them all the way threw from start to the end of pct. I know a lot of people do not want to spend to much. It sucks but its the truth.
 
Re: This months stack up the sponsors thread. The 24 hour muscle building fat burn st

walliwalibus said:
Question (hand raised)....... say you have some people here who are bigger than they should be, you know that nasty F word and not what you do in bed, should this person be taking a, what I call a super supplement (prohormones). Wouldn't that build muscle under the fat. This is for the beginners out there, not unlike myself for one. Shouldn't they (we) focus on losing some inches before we gain some inches in other area's. Just a thought that has occured since some here might be in this gray area that has been found. By that I mean the difference between someone starting out and someone who is well into a lifting routine.
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Of course really over weight people should try to lose bf before they jump on aas.


I want to make something clear. Some of the products laid out in this program are (steroids) not just another product. They are real steroids. They can have real side effects like steroids. They can cause even more problems for people who already have health problems. So keep this in mind when you think about this stack.
 
Re: Needto&debuffguy's Stack up the sponsors thread.

needtogetaas said:
In this thread we will search out the best sponsor products and stack them up for the best combos. We will explain the stack,the products in them, whats in the products and how to use them. We will tell you where to get them and how to get them cheap. Of course all questions and comments are welcome.

To get in the spirit of the season (winter bulking) today we will start with needto's (get fucking jacked) stack. Or that is what I will call it anyway.

Products in the stack
1 M-Drol 90 Caps (justaddmucle.com)
1 P-plex 90 caps (justaddmuscle.com
1 1-t (primordialperformance.com)
1 Ai's cycle support or cycle assist (justaddmuscl.come)
1 RawMCC ( http://www.agxsports.com/)
1 WAXIMAIZE Natural 5 Lbs (justaddmuscle.com)
1 Mix Protein Pack w/ BCAA/ supplements 911 (justaddmuscle.com)
1 sustain alpha (primordialperformance.com)
1 unleashed and 1 postcycle ( proteinfactory.com ) (or ef store cause its cheaper)


How to take
weeks
The cycle
1-4 2 caps p-plex ed
1-4 2 caps m-drol ed
1-4 4 pumps 1-t ed

The pct.
4-8 5 pumps sustain alpha ed
4-8 3 caps unleashed ed
4-8 3 caps postcycle ed

The support and added nutrition and muscle growth enhancers.
Ai's cycle support ed

Post work out shake ed with
double serving of supplements 911 protein/ 1 serving BCAA/ 1 serving RawMCC / 1 serving WAXIMAIZE.



Next we will start looking into the products.
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Here is the link for the needtobuildmuscle stack.

Need To Build Muscle Stack - Need2BuildMuscle Stack - Supplements 911 - Bodybuilding supplements at wholesale prices.BSN,Muscletech,Universal.
 
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