Chubby Cheek relief????

[factory46]

What do you guys recommend to help combat water retention in the face?

I recently ate a bottle of MHP water pills "Xpel". It was 10 days of 8 pills a day. Worked pretty good from days 5-14, but thats about it.

And YES, I drink a ton of water everyday. 1 gallon down by 2pm daily!! Sodium intake is not really an issue, I eat extremely clean.

Currently: (In week 11)
wk 1-12 500 Test E / week
wk 1-12 800 Primo / week
wk 10-14 Avavar 75mg / day

wk 3-14 AIFM - 1 or 2 sprays a day
wk 3-14 Nolva 25mg eod or as needed

 

[mikefear]

up the aifm

 

[velvett]

YES

afstore

 

[factory46]

I did for a few days, but I started getting aches and pains in my elbows and knees. I fought that with Ibuprofen, which worked great while out of the gym, but my joints still hurt while lifting.

I'm not sure why, but the aifm seems to work against me if i take too much. Winny has given me the same pains in the past.

Any others?

 

[factory46]

YES

afstore

Are you sayin' that I should put this stuff on my face?? I think that the problem is edema, not fat.. Will yohimburn help water?

Thanks.

 

[macrophage69alpha]

Are you sayin' that I should put this stuff on my face?? I think that the problem is edema, not fat.. Will yohimburn help water?

Thanks.

both

and what dose of AIFM were you using?

 

[factory46]

both

and what dose of AIFM were you using?

I've varied the DAILY dosage to test myself with it..
1 spray - no prob
2 spray - no prob for 4-5 days, then managable pains
3 sprays - problematic, but not keeping me out of the gym
4 sprays - Bad elbow pains.. even pushups hurt.

So I usually stick to 2 a day, then down to 1 a day if i get achy.

DO I PUT THE "YES" ON MY FACE?????

thanks macro..

f46

 

[macrophage69alpha]

switch to a (3d)2 and (1d)1 pattern, better to drop before sides.

part of the reason is likely the high dose of anavar (it unclear whether "new" anavar issues like joints and liver vals are due to higher dosing or lack of purity- steroids other than var present as most var tests below 95%, quite a bit in the 80-90% range- (chinese skimping on a complicated and expensive synthesis)......

as far as the yohimburn ES, it is applied directly to the site for local effect.--- so yes, YES goes right on the face.

 

[ryan04]

Your cycle is giving me a hard-on! You must be extremely prone to water retention and probably gyno as well if your bloating up off of that (thats not a ridiculous dose of test and primo/var don't aromatize). Try some letro @ 1.25 mgs e.o.d. Up it to e.d. if you need to. Good luck bro!

 

[factory46]

Your cycle is giving me a hard-on! You must be extremely prone to water retention and probably gyno as well if your bloating up off of that (thats not a ridiculous dose of test and primo/var don't aromatize). Try some letro @ 1.25 mgs e.o.d. Up it to e.d. if you need to. Good luck bro!

Glad you like my cycle bro. I gained 22lbs in the first 8 weeks, now i am staying the same as I have adjusted my diet to maintain a lean look. My weight is sticking around 202-206 but i'm still getting stronger each week. The pump from Var sometimes makes lifting a little challenging, not to mention that my arms are getting amazingly veiny.

I'm not sure if I am genetically predisposed to water retention or not; but what i do know is that i am EXTREMELY PICKY. I notice everything, and typically have very pronounced facial features. So, when friends tell me that my body is ripped, but my face is soft, I get a little freaked out. haha, in fact I went straight home, sat on a heating pad (to soothe my pin cushions), and put ice bags under my eyes, haha.

Most of the water seems to be right under my eyes, and a little softness around the jaw line.

I just ordered the "yes", and some Glucorell for something new to try.