Brand New and Confused

[Nelson Montana]

run 50mg ed for 4-5 weeks, no PCT is needed. But if you are concerned. I would throw in some HCGenerate.

Bump your BCAAs through the roof.

I think a natty PCT wouldn't be a bad idea -- UNLEASHED, POST CYCLE, and HCGenerate. And instead of BCAA's, get some Need2 GEAR.

 

[redshirt27se]

when did i say not to work out your lower body?

did u read the thread?

the guy is a hiker concerned with increasing his job stamina, not a bodybuilder concerned with building muscle.

and I stand by my post as a half marathon veteran and 5K champion.. .juicing WILL NOT benefit him in his situation. end of story.

I workout while on cycle my legs, but I damn well sure cannot hike or run long distances. if you can then you got some fake juice there or dont know how to run properly.

please tell me a steroid that will help increase your endurance without causing painful pumps or raising your HR, would love to know as a runner.. oh yeah, it doesn't exist.

a half marathon, no. but high intensity cardio on a cutting cycle is common. i may have misinterpreted some of what you said earlier, but you weren't entirely clear either. regardless no need to snap at me, i wasn't attacking you, just disagreeing.

 

[KenBraggofCarroltonGA]

if you run a proper PCT you will keep a lot of your gains.

my concern is the pumps you will get from hiking. it will feel like your calves and shins are cramping up from the blood rushing into them. i can run half a mile then i start feeling major pumps and have to stop while on cycle. i literally dont even have to workout my legs from the pumps i get when i run!
i would imagine hiking you will get the same thing. and you wont be able to work, but you will definately grow ur leg muscles if you can handle the 'pump'

you can give it a shot and see what happens and experiment.. lets us know how it works out

when i first read this - it sounds like your saying he'll get such a 'pump' that is all he needs for his legs.

when i'm on cycle I can run u around 3 miles a couple of times a week with no problem. but even on days i don't run unless i get in an extra 500-700 mg of taurine and potassium i'll cramp up in the evenings.
But camparing a running day to a ass-to-floor squat doesn't come close to a good leg workout.

and i am using legit stuff.

 

[redshirt27se]

when i first read this - it sounds like your saying he'll get such a 'pump' that is all he needs for his legs.

when i'm on cycle I can run u around 3 miles a couple of times a week with no problem. but even on days i don't run unless i get in an extra 500-700 mg of taurine and potassium i'll cramp up in the evenings.
But camparing a running day to a ass-to-floor squat doesn't come close to a good leg workout.

and i am using legit stuff.

thank you. at least i'm not the only who found that misleading.

 

[metalfujimi]

thank you. at least i'm not the only who found that misleading.

dont worry bro, I thought the same thing you did

 

[BLM Shot]

Since I am going to wait for next winter to begin using juice I was hoping I could get some advice on some natty supps. I realize this is a steroid section, but since I have the thread started and you guys have some background- I thought it would be appropriate to ask here.

Here is my current workout:

Cardio is in times as I have stopped shooting for mileage- something I read to do. It is helpful as time is set and that is how long I will run and I can speed up or slow down according to how my body feels. It is a nice boost for the mental aspect of cardio training.

Mon: run 50 minutes; chest & back
Tues: run 1hr 5min; bi's, tri's & shoulders
Wed: off cardio; lower body
Thurs: run 1hr 5 min; chest and back, but much easier day than Mon
Fri: run 45-50 min; bi's, tri's & shoulder, again, much easier than Tues
Sat: run 2hr 30- 3 hrs; lower body- easier than Wed then a slow run in the evening to keep it loose.
Sun: rest, sleep, and eat a lot.

I do abs everyday except Sun, but really crush em on Wed

As I said my cardio is dynamic and is not always a run. I also swim, bike and a lot of hiking (with and without weight on my back).

I am sure there will be many critiques of my work out. PLEASE critique as it is very welcome. My cardio is what it is and is dynamic, but I feel I have it dialed in for what I need.

In addition to critique, what are some natural supps I could be taking. I have Body Mortar BCAA's on order. I already use SyntheSize, Cytomax and a little protien for a pre workout in addition to a good amount of morning carbs.

I use Cytomax, protein, creatine, and glutamine for post workout. I have Volu-Gro on order.

I feel I am seeing more gains with these supps that I am currently running than before I used supps.

Would HCGenerate be beneficial to add? I am interested in this as it is a test booster. Is it legit? Will it help overall endurance, speed and stamina? Will it help me get cut, harder (ummm.... muscle), stronger?

My diet is really coming into line with what it should be (I think) and I will post after I have dialed it in.

 

[goal245]

You should only train each bodypart once per week. There is no reason to train abs everyday, you wouldnt train legs every day and abs are no different. Remember you grow when resting not when working out.
With all the cardio you are doing you should not expect to put any significant amount of muscle.

I would still take testosterone over the other stuff suggested like SARMS. You are putting alot of stress on your body with your training, your cortisol levels are high etc. The testasterone will lower cortisol and greatly improve recovery.

Natural supps you should use:,
whey protein,
waxy maize mixed with BCAA, EAA and creatine during your workouts and cardio (add crystal light for taste or flavored creatine.).

 

[BLM Shot]

You should only train each bodypart once per week. There is no reason to train abs everyday, you wouldnt train legs every day and abs are no different. Remember you grow when resting not when working out.
With all the cardio you are doing you should not expect to put any significant amount of muscle.

I would still take testosterone over the other stuff suggested like SARMS. You are putting alot of stress on your body with your training, your cortisol levels are high etc. The testasterone will lower cortisol and greatly improve recovery.

Natural supps you should use:,
whey protein,
waxy maize mixed with BCAA, EAA and creatine during your workouts and cardio (add crystal light for taste or flavored creatine.).

Thanks goal. So I shouldn't work out the same muscles twice a week even though I am going much lighter on the weight the second time around? It just seems to feel good to get some blood flowing to those areas. I hear ya on the abs, but I think I will continue with abs more than once a week. maybe not as much as I am doing currently.

I would like to do test. However, I will not be able to run a proper cyle and PCT before the season (my job) really gets going. I am looking at running a cycle starting Jan or Feb. I am thinking of running Eq, T bol, and Test. How does that sound for what I do?

Again, I am not looking to get big (lighter is better in my job), but stronger. I realize that with the cardio I will never put on a lot of weight.

I may run some SARMS for about 4 weeks before the season with some Nolva and Clomid for a PCT as I read a SARMS log with blood work and it was needed.

 

[goal245]

Thanks goal. So I shouldn't work out the same muscles twice a week even though I am going much lighter on the weight the second time around? It just seems to feel good to get some blood flowing to those areas. I hear ya on the abs, but I think I will continue with abs more than once a week. maybe not as much as I am doing currently.

training each muscle par 1 per week is ideal as you will be able to work out with higher intensity. Your split will have to change to train each bodypart once a week.

example split

monday: quads and hamstrings
tuesday: chest and traps
wednesday: back
thursday: no training
friday: triceps and shoulders
saturday: bis and calves
sunday: no training

this split is good because when you train a primary muscle (ex. chest) the secondary smaller muscles are fresh (tris, shoulders) allowing you to stress the chest more. same goes for back and bis.

I would also work out in the morning and do your cardio later on at evening time, this way you are fresh for the weight training session.

and yea test , eq and tbol would be good for your goals

 

[ArmaniAK47]

Everyone that says tweaking your diet would more than do the job in place of steroids is FULL OF SHIT.

Steroids work and they work damn well.. I don't care if you're a pro hopscotch player- your game will improve using steroids.

You're aging each day.. Your testosterone count drops more and more.. and as such: you will only get weaker and recover less..

We have to delve into the question of what kind, but the point remains the same.. Steroids will do you way better than "tweaking a diet", and in a different way.. comparing the two is apples to oranges, really..

As for the 'temporary fix' claims.. I 100% disagree. Steroids permanently change you for the better even if you drop off all the way.
What you should do, if you've decided to use steroids, is establish a "base" level of testosterone (via injection) and return to it after cycles of heavier doses.
Say... 100-200mgs each week. Then, when ON cycle.. take 500-ish mgs and some anavar, perhaps.

No pct needed, just drop back to the 100-200mgs of testosterone when you need to take a break.

This of course, could cause permanent sterility.. but that is arguable.. there have been men on permanent testosterone replacement for 30 years, hop off and have kids... so..

Don't let anyone fool you; the juice works.. It will do things "adding apricots" or any other bullshit can't do.