1. AAS are a dependant factor to every serious bodybuilder. Natural Testosterone production can only bring you so far. Show me just one IFBB Pro that is training naturally.
never said pro's don't juice, again you love to put words in my mouth. of course they juice, again you missed my point. I am not a pro bodybuilder, I have a real job as do most of us on this forum.. I am very certain I do not have the genetics do ever be a pro and that is OKAY, in this sport we all have different genetics and goals. I bodybuild as a hobby, I am a gym rat. 95% of steroid users are gym rats trying to get an edge in the gym, 5% are athletes.
2. You shouldn't have said that because now everyone will know that you have little knowledge i\on what steroids actually are.
- First of all most of the gear out there on the market is synthesized out of Testosterone or Dehydrotestosterone (which is also a testosterone derivative). This goes for your beloved Superdrol as well. But to be EVEN more clear - I was referring to Sustanon when I spoke of stable testosterone levels. If it's D-bol then we are talking about stable Methandrostenolone levels which was in fact synthesized out of Boldenone Cypionate which is yet another testosterone derivate.
well then i apologize for mis-understanding your prior post. sustanon vs. cyp is another debate, one which I also have an opinion of cause I have used both.... you on the other hand never used orals by themselves or used superdrol/beastdrol so how can you judge if they work or not? you can't
- Proceeding. Of course you need "stable substance levels". Saying you don't is a pure joke.
you do NOT need it.
I'm now going to explain what steroid half-life is. For example D-bol's half life is 4 hours which means that if you take a 10mg pill in the morning after 4 hours you will have 5 mg left in your blood system after another 4 hours 2.5mg.
half life doesn't necessarily mean how long AAS keeps working in the body (deca has a 2 week half life and anyone who has run it will attest it keeps working much longer than that, more like 5 weeks) and even if your theory was true it would be impossible to achieve that. yes i recommend taking dbol split up throughout the day, when did i say otherwise?
But then muscle recovery continues for 3 days after a workout and you can't even cover 24 hours with d-bol. That's why in the world of serious bodybuilding oral only cycles are a taboo and D-bol is always run with Testosterone as a base. Why ? Runing oral only cycles will also cause constant peaks and lows of your endogenous testosterone levels which of course will promote aromatization.
oh boy. so i suppose testosterone doesn't aromatize right?
But we are also forgetting another extremely important factor - nutrition. Most of the stuff that bodybuilders eat takes about 2-4 hours to digest and absorb. With the upmentioned unstable levels of AAS in your system you will not have enough D-bol when macronutrients are digested in order to recover from your training, let alone that most of your HGH is produced while you sleep and you recover the most and you need your AAS then as well. So your theory is absolute junk.
what is my theory exactly? that orals alone work? I think 99.9% of people on this forum would disagree, we must all be idiots i guess
- Also there is no such thing like "anabolic or androgenic provides an environment for anything". Proviron for example (which I also happen to like by the way) is a very powerful androgenic substance but will literally produce no gains at all even at doses over 100mg/ed.
when did i say to run proviron alone? lol dude you are too much for me. I've written about proviron many times and said you need to stack it, its androgenic so it needs to be stacked with something anabolic... go back like 3 posts, i said run proviron WITH dbol. my gawd you like to pull bs out of thin air don't you? by itself it DOES work as a DHT, so don't say it does nothing though and take me for a fool. but yes it has to be stacked to get the true benefits.
It's not that simple my friend. You need to learn more before you start giving advice that might affect people negatively. It's not about any envirnoments, it's about hypertrophy, hyperplasia, absorption, hormonal schedules etc. etc.
I don't claim to know it all, anyone who does is full of themselves.. I study this stuff everyday and i dedicate hours a week to it cause its awesome, and i try to help people on a daily basis not make mistakes and screw up.. nutrition, health, fitness continues to evolve all the time so to claim you know it all and someone else doesn't is a very ignorant thing to say.
@Judo Tom
I'm doing nothing but discussing my friend. What's with the sudden heat ? Check this out. Sustanon contains 4 esters that all start acting at the same time according to what Mr. Montana said as do all other steroids (start acting immediately).
guess what? Mr. Montana is correct. sustanon starts working IMMEDIATELY.
Sustanon is designed to last in your system for about a month as is Testosterone Enanthate.
half life is 21 days on the long ester of sustanon, it also contains 2 short esters, and an additional 8 day ester. Test E is 14 days. If both drugs start acting immediately when they are injected that would mean that they are the same right ?
they are both testosterone, they just have different esters.
Do you get it now or how precise do I have to be ?
no you honestly just are blabbing and taking what people are saying and twisting it around and trying to sound smart, but you really aren't providing any substance.
I understand that you want to compliment your buddy stevesmi with valuable arguments but you just don't have any mate.
Judo and I have disagreed before as have I an Nelson, the difference is we respect each others knowledge and are open minded. I have tried some of Nelson's techniques in his book and they have helped me wonderfully. specifically his advice on calf and bicep work. I am always OPEN to trying new things
Cheers
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