Blacks suing corporate USA for $1.4 trillion!

[studcj]

that's right and more scholarships than these few are necessary.
Thus, African-Americans are often at a disadvantage in the admissions process and accordingly are at a major disadvantage in the financial aid process as well. Why? Because very often African-Americans are first generation college students---hence their parents often lack the funds to contribute to their children's education.



Ryan.

actually being a first generation college student gets you more financial aid. The money is there for minorities. I've know an atleast 5-6 guys on my football team that didn't get their NAACP scholarships because they didn't get a 2.0 gpa. And another one didn't get it because he was too damn lazy to fill out the forms. You can lead a horse to water...

as far as scholarships go...don't say shit to me. I've been royally dicked over. My parents don't contribute to my college, but I can't declare myself as a independant untill I'm 22. So even though I pay all my own tuition,rent, and living expenses.....according to Finacial Aid my family contributes 18,000/year towards my schooling. Thus, I get no finacial aid.

I'm usually not one to complain though. I made ways to make it work. So there's no way in hell I'm gonna feel sorry for a minority not getting into a certain school, or being turned down for a scholarship because of their lackof effort. I think you'll find that most colleges...especially Ivy League schools will give priority to a minority to make their college be more diverse. I think that is somewhat of a goo thing though.

whew..I'm done.

 

[MP5]

150 years ago we fed them, housed them, clothed them, and provided them medical care.

Today, we feed them, house them, clothe them, and provide them medical care, the only difference is today we don't get any work out of them!

 

[manfromyard]

Nobody in my family has ancestral connections. In fact I had to bust my ass through highschool to get in to the colleges of my choice while some minority with lower grades and a mediocre curriculum gets in before me. Is that fair? Is it fair I had to stay up well past midnight on some nights to succeed while a minority can coast through school and get in just by checking a box on his application stating he is a minority? Answer that Ryan. Please, enlighten me. Is it because of all the troubles that minorities had to overcome in the last hundred years....All the troubles they had to put up with while I wasn't even born. While my parents werent born....While my grandparents were in Europe? Why am I punnished for what happened in the past where I didnt come from?
Why do whites get jobs before the minority? Because we worked to get where we are. We studied and we know what we are doing. We don't have any skin color to play advantage to us so we must sit down and learn it. By knowing what we choose to learn it makes us better employees and more desirable to the employer. That is why we are hired first. So if the minorities want to be hired just the same, they should crack open a book and excel with their smarts, not their skin.

Name a minority member that got through and graduated college because he was black? I always thought college involved hard work.. When last did someone get a diploma because he was black/hispanic/asian? Think back to the 60's, or 70's or even now..? Did white's in the 60's get to go to college because they were smarter or worked harder? Or maybe it was because blacks were not allowed? When I get stopped on the road by a cop in this state..is it because I am more of a criminal than a white person?
This lawsuit is pretty stupid, because all it does is divide the races more but Racism and slavery did affect African-Americans adversely. And you can bitch all you want but here are the facts... hardest working and smarter person ususally gets ahead in the end anyway... The whole affirmative action was to balance out...Did you know that some colleges give preference to students whose parents graduated from there? Since blacks were not allowed into these coleges..then they were being discriminated against buy this policy. Minorities are punished for the past everyday...By discrimination,racial profiling, and all other kinds of practices...If the govt would get its act together and kill the profiling, then they would find it a hellofalot easier to kill affirmative action programs(which I would like to die as well). But you look stupid crying about affirmative action when institutionalized racism is still present...

 

[b fold the truth]

That is part of my family background...wonder how much I will get?

B True

 

[buddy28]

you were almost sounding credible until you posted this

hahah!! then read it again swifty.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

Name a minority member that got through and graduated college because he was black? I always thought college involved hard work.. When last did someone get a diploma because he was black/hispanic/asian? Think back to the 60's, or 70's or even now..? Did white's in the 60's get to go to college because they were smarter or worked harder? Or maybe it was because blacks were not allowed? When I get stopped on the road by a cop in this state..is it because I am more of a criminal than a white person?
This lawsuit is pretty stupid, because all it does is divide the races more but Racism and slavery did affect African-Americans adversely. And you can bitch all you want but here are the facts... hardest working and smarter person ususally gets ahead in the end anyway... The whole affirmative action was to balance out...Did you know that some colleges give preference to students whose parents graduated from there? Since blacks were not allowed into these coleges..then they were being discriminated against buy this policy. Minorities are punished for the past everyday...By discrimination,racial profiling, and all other kinds of practices...If the govt would get its act together and kill the profiling, then they would find it a hellofalot easier to kill affirmative action programs(which I would like to die as well). But you look stupid crying about affirmative action when institutionalized racism is still present...

You just agreed there that the cycle continues. I didn't say all minorities but some. It makes it easier for them to get by without doing as much hard work as everyone else. When they get out of the university, they can now get a job because they have to fill a quota. Not because of their academic performance. I've been passed up for jobs before because I wasn't black and my sister didn't get into the college she wanted to because she wasn't hispanic.-her best friend has identical grades to her but she was accepted because she put on the application she was Hispanic. Why can't an application be totally anonymous? Why do you have to post your race? How about they start judging people on what they accomplished. Same thing with jobs. Then affirmative action has no merit. The most qualified wins.

 

[VicTusDeuS]

Your talking about govenment compensation and comparing it to corporate compensation. It was our government that allowed the companies to have slaves. These corporations supposidly "benefitted" from it. If you guys want to go after the government go ahead, but don't go harassing companies for doing what was legal at the time.

I feel the corporations did nothing wrong. The people who will be getting a check never were slaves. Their parents never were slaves. The corporations board of directors and shareholders do not have slaves.
Since we're going after the corporations who bennefitted from slavery why dont we just go after the people who used the products these companies made? After all they benefitted from the luxury of having these products that were somehow related to slavery. Im sure somewhere a black man used these products as well, so lets sue the black man to pay a check for other black men. Lets just sue everyone and give the black man everything he wants..Are you happy?

B28, how much would you say each black person should get in the mail from the government. We should adjust for interest and inflation so dont forget to increase it...$1M. Is 1 mill enough? Some slaves worked in the fields for 40 years without pay. What is 40 years of hard work added up at minimum wage 2000 hours a year?

Vindictus

Was it 'legal' to cheat, rape, and kill indigenous North American indians when America was colionized? No?? Then why are both American Indians and Canadian indians receiving government compensastion for atrocities committed by European settlers??

Because they knew it was wrong you dipshit. Get with it. Whether slavery was legal or not during the time it was practised is irrelevant. Yes it would help your argument if slavery was legal during the time it was practised, but most people on this board would argue against moral relativism.

Everyone *knows* its wrong to kill a person, or make another person their slave. Perhaps some nations treated their slaves with respect - more like an proliterate working class. But tell me, did the American colionilists treat black slaves with the respect owing of a human being, or did they treat them more like a peice of dog shit??

The answers pretty apparent. Blacks have been mistreated, abused, and isolated from the very oppurtunities created, in a large part, by the efforts of their enslaved ancestors. Every great civilization has enjoyed free labor from slave populations which feul the expansion of commerce and support further government infastructure development. ITs what makes a nation great compared to the rest. Free fucking labor. America used the blacks, then they turn their back on them and claim they owe them nothing.


This is what i see on this thread. People reacting to their perceptions of 21st centure black ghetto culture, and not the actual atrocity which incited the lawsuit. Yes, the majority of black ghetto culture glorifies violence, killing, drug use, ect. Yes, its stupid. And yes, alot of blacks perpetuate this sterotype by adopting similar behavours. But when the fuck is it going to end?? It ends when the black population realizes the merits of education and HAS ACCESS TO THAT EDUCATION.

The compensation owed to blacks from slave ownership can be used for this very purpose. You all should be thankfull we live in such a society where justified retribution can be sought and won. Its your fellow man out there. wake the fuck up.

 

[buddy28]

Your talking about govenment compensation and comparing it to corporate compensation. It was our government that allowed the companies to have slaves. These corporations supposidly "benefitted" from it. If you guys want to go after the government go ahead, but don't go harassing companies for doing what was legal at the time.

I feel the corporations did nothing wrong. The people who will be getting a check never were slaves. Their parents never were slaves. The corporations board of directors and shareholders do not have slaves.
Since we're going after the corporations who bennefitted from slavery why dont we just go after the people who used the products these companies made? After all they benefitted from the luxury of having these products that were somehow related to slavery. Im sure somewhere a black man used these products as well, so lets sue the black man to pay a check for other black men. Lets just sue everyone and give the black man everything he wants..Are you happy?

I understand your point. Sorry for calling you dipshit. I got alittle upset.

Your entitled to your opinion. I disagree. My point - intrinsically, humans know employing slaves is wrong. I agree with you in a sense the government should be held liable for allowing the practise of slavery. However, both the government and corporations are guilty. If child labor were legalized today, would it be ok for corporations to force kids to work 14 hours a day, 7 days a week?? Its legal right?? So whats the problem.

Its a violation of moral law. Officers in the corporations knew it, thus, are guilty by association.

 

[bodytemple75]

These are reasons that "I" believe that are the "reasons being" of these type-situations rising up here and there, in the minority community we are talking about here now....



1. laziness

2.most are "open" about their hatred for whites and other races, usually taught early/built- in, and "unprevolked."

3.looking for "HANDOUTS" to compensate for them "not wanting" to get jobs.

4. By them saying..."We can't get the god jobs," ..."Whites...take them all."....is an insult,...crock of shit,.....all the programs minorities have, affirmative action,..monies, grants,....what it comes down to, are 2 simple things... Hatred,.....and ....laziness.



No matter what color, creed you are,.....you can survive in the world, if you just use your head about things,.....and get your priorities straight. Don't blame others, and look to them when you and your community, realize you all fucked your lives up.


I am Italian, I have Italian friends, and others that are all different kinds of creeds, races,...and sexual prefferance,...I don't care about any of that shit,...if they are a good bro,...cool with me. To get respect, you must give. But, some people just have to get it together, stop blaming others, and move on with their lives...It pisses some off...!







b o d y t e m p l e.

 

[Warik]

Its a violation of moral law. Officers in the corporations knew it, thus, are guilty by association.

I would agree here. People will argue the subjectivity and relativity of morality, but come on, forcing people to work hard for extended hours with no compensation is clearly immoral. The only fallacy in your argument is penalizing those not guilty of any related moral atrocities for these crimes against humanity.

Did the C.E.O. of Company A ever own slaves?
His father?
His grandfather?
Does he even think: "Damn... I wish slavery were legal so I could own a couple."

For all you know, the C.E.O. of any particular (or every) company could absolutely detest slavery and all who supported it, yet still be responsible for it and have to pay reparations to people who are not related to any slaves?

Justifiable compensation is one thing, but this blatant foolishness is another. You can't hold someone accountable for a crime, legal or moral, that he never committed.

Hypothetically, it's like me having you executed because your grandfather killed someone. You knew he did. "Guilty by association" - have a seat, buddy, old sparky is waiting.

-Warik