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Blacks suing corporate USA for $1.4 trillion!

Warik said:


For all you know, the C.E.O. of any particular (or every) company could absolutely detest slavery and all who supported it, yet still be responsible for it and have to pay reparations to people who are not related to any slaves?

Justifiable compensation is one thing, but this blatant foolishness is another. You can't hold someone accountable for a crime, legal or moral, that he never committed.

Youve made this argument before. However, federal law recognizes an incorporated firm as a legal entity with rights and responsibilities which extend past the life of its serving officers.

The reason why such a law was instituted was to place federal accountability for corporate actions committed by its officers, serving or not. Warik, imagine if corporate officers were the only individuals who could be held accountable for illegal commercial transactions or business practices undertaking by incorporated firms. What would happen then?

1) scapegoating would become rampant. Corporate officers would hire no nothing underlyings, make an illegal corporate move, and blame the new guy. The corporation immediately benefits from the actions authorized by the new dude, but experiences no penalty. The little guy takes the fall and consumers, employees, and other firms take a hit because corporate actions are now immune from prosecution.

2) Corporations turnover uppermanagement like crazy to avoid federal prosecution for inditable offenses. IF corporations cant be prosecuted as long as those officers who created and authorized illegal decisions are no longer with the firm, corporations are free to run the board on illicit activity as long as they dont get caught with the hot potatoe = corporate officer which authorized illicit corporate action.

3) Corporations would probably cease to exist in the size they do today because the spirit of misttrust created by corporate employee swapping and scapegoating would undermine employee motivation to serve the firm. Why work for a firm if youll be held personably liable for irroneous and illegal corporate decision making that you were coerced to authorize????

There has to be corporate accountability, both to shareholders, and to the government, or else the law of the jungle = the human propenstity to fuck other people over, would run rampant.

Now getting back to your point. Corporations in fact *do* have a legal and moral obligation to minimize liability exposure by participating in only those commercial activities which are relativily moral, and by all means legal. Sure, corporations can do whatever the fuck they want, but look at tabbacoo firms now. They are getting fucked in a big way. They knowingly sold, and targeted carcengenic products to the public, all the while withholding irrefutable evidence said products caused cancer. Now theyre getting fucked. Yes its the consumers fault for purchasing the product, and yes its the governments fault for legalizing smoking. But its also the corporations fault for committing an immoral act by producing and promoting a product which severly comprimises the health of those using it.

Its better 1 guilty party pays the price, then no guilty party.

Without personal and commercial accountability, our whole society would fall apart.
 
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Warik said:


Did the C.E.O. of Company A ever own slaves?
His father?
His grandfather?
Does he even think: "Damn... I wish slavery were legal so I could own a couple."

For all you know, the C.E.O. of any particular (or every) company could absolutely detest slavery and all who supported it, yet still be responsible for it and have to pay reparations to people who are not related to any slaves?

Thats right man. Y? RyanH summed it up best:

Warik said:
I suggest you look at those corporations existing in your portfolio with a watchful eye---look at their history and their financial statements very closely. Afterall, that is your responsibility isn't it? If you find that certain companies have past or future liability then don't invest.

Remember, the same capitalistic society you probably hold in such high regard has a price----personal responsibility through making wise investment decisions.

Those same CEOs and shareholders which u claim are innocent of any wrongdoing are guilty of purchasing corporate assets which accumulated through *highly* immoral methods. Many CEO's arnt pushovers. Dollars to donuts they were intimately aware of the firms history, but purchased the firm anyway.

Its the price you pay for stolen goods.
 
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VicTusDeuS said:



You just agreed there that the cycle continues. I didn't say all minorities but some. It makes it easier for them to get by without doing as much hard work as everyone else. When they get out of the university, they can now get a job because they have to fill a quota. Not because of their academic performance. I've been passed up for jobs before because I wasn't black and my sister didn't get into the college she wanted to because she wasn't hispanic.-her best friend has identical grades to her but she was accepted because she put on the application she was Hispanic. Why can't an application be totally anonymous? Why do you have to post your race? How about they start judging people on what they accomplished. Same thing with jobs. Then affirmative action has no merit. The most qualified wins.
Yeah..the cycle does contiue..BTW How do you know that you were passed up because you were not black? How do you know that your sister's best friend didn't have more extra-curricular activities or something like that? Jist curious as to how you can tell this? If I dont get a job, i could feel that it was because of my race but they never tell you out and out...
The best thing would be for them to be anonymous..agree on you there. My whole point was just that if all these unfair practices such as rcial profiling would stop, then we wouldnt need affirmative action..as both are inheremtly unfair anyway..I dont know why the Govt doesnt kill 'em both.
Last point...It really sucks that now people will be saying Damn niggers..like last asshole just did..because of the action of johny Cochran and some other assholes. When a white person does something stupid...like drown her kids or sue Mcdonalds because she burnt herself with some coffee...No-one goes "Stupid White people" or thinks that "the majority whites are so goddamn lazy and stupid!". That's majorly fucked up!!!
 
manfromyard said:
Last point...It really sucks that now people will be saying Damn niggers..like last asshole just did..because of the action of johny Cochran and some other assholes. When a white person does something stupid...like drown her kids or sue Mcdonalds because she burnt herself with some coffee...No-one goes "Stupid White people" or thinks that "the majority whites are so goddamn lazy and stupid!". That's majorly fucked up!!!

no, but if a white person dares to criticize a black or black culture publicly they are deemed a racist. if they dont emply enough blacks they are considered a racist. if they dont agree with welfare they are considered a racist. the race card is way too played out. and the reason you dont see people saying much shit about whites is because i dont recall vast numbers of us being on welfare, getting free food, free schooling, free healthcare, etc. and on top of that, suing for 1.4 trillion dollars.
 
p0ink said:


no, but if a white person dares to criticize a black or black culture publicly they are deemed a racist. if they dont emply enough blacks they are considered a racist. if they dont agree with welfare they are considered a racist. the race card is way too played out. and the reason you dont see people saying much shit about whites is because i dont recall vast numbers of us being on welfare, getting free food, free schooling, free healthcare, etc. and on top of that, suing for 1.4 trillion dollars.

I dont remember anyone calling "racist" on this thread...:confused:
There are no white people on welfare or getting medicaid? There are no hispanic people getting free schooling? Did a majority of the blacks in America agree to this lawsuit? Or a couple dozen who wanted to get free handouts? I didnt contribute to this... If a skinhead militia kills some people claiming that they are ensuring racial purity for " all White America"..no-one believes that they are acting for all White america even though that is what they claim right?...I am asking why this is not true fr blacks...Because a group of assholes try to get handouts..all black people are worthless? Is that what you are telling me?:worried:
 
Well considering I went back and saw that there was hardly any white people there and 90% of the staff was black I assumed it was because of that. Also, my sisters friend is almost 90% identical to my sister except my sister ran on the track team whereasher friend did not.


I was quite annoyed when i heard about the lady suing McDonalds for spilling coffee on herself. I called her a lazy bitch looking for handouts among other things that are too bad to be said on here.
1) Hot coffee at any degree will burn
2) She shouldve focused on driving and not having coffee between her legs while doing so.
manfromyard said:

Yeah..the cycle does contiue..BTW How do you know that you were passed up because you were not black? How do you know that your sister's best friend didn't have more extra-curricular activities or something like that? Jist curious as to how you can tell this? If I dont get a job, i could feel that it was because of my race but they never tell you out and out...
The best thing would be for them to be anonymous..agree on you there. My whole point was just that if all these unfair practices such as rcial profiling would stop, then we wouldnt need affirmative action..as both are inheremtly unfair anyway..I dont know why the Govt doesnt kill 'em both.
Last point...It really sucks that now people will be saying Damn niggers..like last asshole just did..because of the action of johny Cochran and some other assholes. When a white person does something stupid...like drown her kids or sue Mcdonalds because she burnt herself with some coffee...No-one goes "Stupid White people" or thinks that "the majority whites are so goddamn lazy and stupid!". That's majorly fucked up!!!
 
manfromyard said:


I dont remember anyone calling "racist" on this thread...:confused:
There are no white people on welfare or getting medicaid? There are no hispanic people getting free schooling? Did a majority of the blacks in America agree to this lawsuit? Or a couple dozen who wanted to get free handouts? I didnt contribute to this... If a skinhead militia kills some people claiming that they are ensuring racial purity for " all White America"..no-one believes that they are acting for all White america even though that is what they claim right?...I am asking why this is not true fr blacks...Because a group of assholes try to get handouts..all black people are worthless? Is that what you are telling me?:worried:


If you support it you are contributing..Do you think you should be paid money for the enslavement of black people 2 centuries ago?

Should all children under 14 now recieve money from major corporations because 100 years ago minors were forced to work in deplorable conditions?
 
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