Warik said:
So you think that people should be held responsible for doing things that are in accordance with the law?
You started driving when you were 16, right? Well, what if next week a big law is passed that requires all drivers to be of age 18 before operating a motor vehicle. Guess what, you're going to jail. Why? Because you drove several years ago when you were 16. Oh, but it was legal then? Too bad... the law has changed now and you are held accountable for legal things you did years ago.
Give me a break. The defendants in this lawsuit have committed no crimes.
-Warik
The Declaration of Independance directly opposes *any* law which condoned domestic slavery.
Warik, it doesnt matter if the *people* who benefitted from slavery are still alive. A corporation is considered a legal enitity which transcends the life of it serving officers. Therefore, the entity can be held liable for past actions, regardless of the mortal status of the officers in question. Same too for any government.
Dont beleive me. Then tell me why the North American public are recieving massive payouts from Tobacco firms for deceased victims of smoking?? When legal precendence is unclear, governing morality will prevail.
The corporations deserve to pay a fuck load. Why not?? Because the people who made the decision to enslave blacks are dead?? Well guess what. Your government indirectly condened the use of corporate slavery by not intervening when they had the chance. Despite the sincerity and princibles which inspried the drawing of the Declaration, the lives sacrificed in the American Revolution to confirm the documents legality were eventually made trivial by the corrupt aspirations of the succeeding government.
Which begs the question. Is the declaration of Independance a legally binding document? Most would argue it is because it *officially* declares seperation between United States colonies and ancestral Great Britan. Hopefully, RyanH and the other Law buffs can help us out on that one. But I suppose youll argue the only intended recognized statute is that of seperation from Britan, not equality for all men. Sometimes its more important to do the right thing, then to do the legal thing.
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness...."
Georgia:
Button Gwinnett
Lyman Hall
George Walton
[Column 2]
North Carolina:
William Hooper
Joseph Hewes
John Penn
South Carolina:
Edward Rutledge
Thomas Heyward, Jr.
Thomas Lynch, Jr.
Arthur Middleton
[Column 3]
Massachusetts:
John Hancock
Maryland:
Samuel Chase
William Paca
Thomas Stone
Charles Carroll of Carrollton
Virginia:
George Wythe
Richard Henry Lee
Thomas Jefferson
Benjamin Harrison
Thomas Nelson, Jr.
Francis Lightfoot Lee
Carter Braxton
[Column 4]
Pennsylvania:
Robert Morris
Benjamin Rush
Benjamin Franklin
John Morton
George Clymer
James Smith
George Taylor
James Wilson
George Ross
Delaware:
Caesar Rodney
George Read
Thomas McKean
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New York:
William Floyd
Philip Livingston
Francis Lewis
Lewis Morris
New Jersey:
Richard Stockton
John Witherspoon
Francis Hopkinson
John Hart
Abraham Clark
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Josiah Bartlett
William Whipple
Massachusetts:
Samuel Adams
John Adams
Robert Treat Paine
Elbridge Gerry
Rhode Island:
Stephen Hopkins
William Ellery
Connecticut:
Roger Sherman
Samuel Huntington
William Williams
Oliver Wolcott
New Hampshire:
Matthew Thornton