Being all natural is getting tougher and tougher.

[ZGzaZ]

it may be tough but look at ronnie bro he's i think 40. He put on 40lbs since last years MR.O. Of course he knows what supplements to take and when. There are some suppliments just as high seeked out as allegal steroids, its just a matter or pushing it and doing a lot of research.

Maybe Im just reading this wrong, but it sounds like you think Ronnie doesnt use roids....please tell me im reading this wrong.

 

[protobe]

come on i'm not saying that he never did. does he now (allegal) no way bro they test mad for that shit. There are a lot of roids out there not on the list for testing that i'm sure they all use but shit like deca dude i don't think so

 

[ZGzaZ]

come on i'm not saying that he never did. does he now (allegal) no way bro they test mad for that shit. There are a lot of roids out there not on the list for testing that i'm sure they all use but shit like deca dude i don't think so

heh-heh....you know all those guys juice for months out of the year, ya should do some research.

 

[collegiateLifter]

when you get to the point where you cant achieve any more naturally, then I cant see any reason not to cross over to the other side. If done right, there are no health risks...

To be fair, I think it should say "if done right, you can minimize health risks" as there has never been a legitimate study of any sort that can even partially support the idea that there are no health risks.

While I am skeptical of significant health risks coming from conservative cycling, it's a matter of principle....

 

[heregothere]

come on i'm not saying that he never did. does he now (allegal) no way bro they test mad for that shit. There are a lot of roids out there not on the list for testing that i'm sure they all use but shit like deca dude i don't think so

^^^

 

[needsize]

To be fair, I think it should say "if done right, you can minimize health risks" as there has never been a legitimate study of any sort that can even partially support the idea that there are no health risks.

While I am skeptical of significant health risks coming from conservative cycling, it's a matter of principle....

if my blood tests always come back well within the normal range, then I really dont see what damage I could be causing. And if there was minute damage, considering I dont drink, smoke or do anything else, then I still end up healthier than the majority of the population

 

[lavi]

yeah good point... it's amazing how much weightlifting makes us take care of our bodies in all ways

 

[collegiateLifter]

if my blood tests always come back well within the normal range, then I really dont see what damage I could be causing.

Consider that
An absence of proof of health problems is not the proof of an absence of health problems.

If your blood work comes back without any hitches that is desireable but it doesn't neccessarily mean you are in perfect health.

And if there was minute damage, considering I dont drink, smoke or do anything else, then I still end up healthier than the majority of the population

Very possible & harm reduction is definately beneficial.


Again my intuition says that there's probably not significant problems with conservative cycling, but the science is not there to support(/not reject) such a belief.

 

[JOKER47]

To be fair, I think it should say "if done right, you can minimize health risks" as there has never been a legitimate study of any sort that can even partially support the idea that there are no health risks.

Show me a legitimate study that has shown that there ARE health risks directly related to AS usage.

 

[JT Iron]

lol @ Ronnie Coleman being natural