Anyone use MASTERON while NOT lean??

[moya]

The worst thing a person can do is waste their time and receptors on shit that isn't needed or can be utilized to the fullest on cycle. If you are bulking, you don't need to be injecting winstrol or primo. If you are cutting, you don't need to be injecting deca or suspension.

Drop the bodyfat, use masteron and see what it really does.

fail...

mast has plenty of use aside from cutting... the synergy of stacking is truly "utilizing to the fullest" your cycle... and i would much rather stack 500 test 500 mast than run 1g test on any cycle... that is also why everyone, whether bulking or cutting, powerlifting, whatever loves the test/tren/mast combo so well... this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each will contribute less sides...

and i not sure what you are trying to imply about suspension... it is test... be it more potent mg/mg, even pinned only once a day i get less bloat off of that than any other estered test... if anything it should be the aas of choice for cutting... *and from what ive been seeing, most reccomend it being used leading up to a bodybuilding competition!

 

[AAP]

fail...

mast has plenty of use aside from cutting... the synergy of stacking is truly "utilizing to the fullest" your cycle... and i would much rather stack 500 test 500 mast than run 1g test on any cycle... that is also why everyone, whether bulking or cutting, powerlifting, whatever loves the test/tren/mast combo so well... this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each will contribute less sides...

and i not sure what you are trying to imply about suspension... it is test... be it more potent mg/mg, even pinned only once a day i get less bloat off of that than any other estered test... if anything it should be the aas of choice for cutting... *and from what ive been seeing, most reccomend it being used leading up to a bodybuilding competition!

Fail my ass.

If you are using over 500+ test weekly and not growing you either got a problem with your calorie intake or you got a problem with the genetic Mother Nature handed you. Either case, more or different AAS is not going to change that.

Obviously when you say "this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each" you have no idea of the little paradox you just stepped into.

 

[moya]

Fail my ass.

If you are using over 500+ test weekly and not growing you either got a problem with your calorie intake or you got a problem with the genetic Mother Nature handed you. Either case, more or different AAS is not going to change that.

who in here said anything about having trouble gaining?...

Obviously when you say "this also lets you use more total mg of aas, but lower amounts of each" you have no idea of the little paradox you just stepped into.
well then explain... lol... i love when someone tells me im wrong and has nothing to say afterwards...

see bold...

 

[gstacker]

Id have to agree with moya on this one bout the suspention for cutting and masteron stacked with test.... They just go hand n hand really, but i will say this if you are lean it really shines! I think somebody might have written a lil poem about masteron hmm wonder who that was???????

 

[moya]

...ok i almost see where you're coming from... more aas in general = more sides... however this is about mast, which can have an AI like effect, thus lessening some sides from the test... and as we all know, killing your estro with an AI hinders gains...
i understand its give and take... but almost everyone i know would rather spit up their total mg's between different aas then just bombard their system with a bunch of test thats just going to aromatize and be a waste (point of diminishing returns)... which i would belive would apply to those of us on here with fairly average receptor genetics...

 

[gstacker]

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/masteron-me-poetry-steroid-lover-646812.html

 

[AAP]

If you are taking 500mg of test, there is no amount of mg of Masteron you can take that will give you more test. Period.

750mg of test is still more test than 500mg of test + whatever amount of masteron you are injecting.

 

[ledhead]

The worst thing a person can do is waste their time and receptors on shit that isn't needed or can be utilized to the fullest on cycle. If you are bulking, you don't need to be injecting winstrol or primo. If you are cutting, you don't need to be injecting deca or suspension.

Drop the bodyfat, use masteron and see what it really does.

Ultimately, you can diet on any drug. However, I understand where you're coming from with using Mast when body fat is low(you see the effects better). I believe Deca is one of the best drugs to diet on because of its collagen properties (tighter skin), and greater nitrogen retention. I think what your are trying to say about suspension is that there is no ester attached to it, so the increase of bloating (amomatizing) is wayyyy greater than other tests (agreed). However, there is one cure for all of this noise if people have the balls to take it, DIURETICS....or lasix (which i dont reccomend)... IMO, you can diet or bulk on any drug it's a matter of tweeking your training and diet... and playing with a water pill here and there...

 

[moya]

If you are taking 500mg of test, there is no amount of mg of Masteron you can take that will give you more test. Period.

where did i ever say that?
750mg of test is still more test than 500mg of test + whatever amount of masteron you are injecting.
which has nothing to do with this conversation... i guess you just want to avoid the topic, thats fine...

i never said your test would increase... your responses have not even been close to the topic...
suspension is not more bloat... it is used precontest for this reason... the people that bloat on it are the ones not using it properly...

 

[caBEAST]

Ultimately, you can diet on any drug. IMO, you can diet or bulk on any drug it's a matter of tweeking your training and diet... and playing with a water pill here and there...

TRUE DAT!!! I FIRMLY believe in this as well...I know MANY bodybuilders/atheletes(myself included) that use so called "cutting drugs" to get bigger and include "bulking drugs" precontest to help retain or even gain size while dieting...this happened to me....I believe its ALL about how your diet looks vs. the drugs you're taking...I know for a FACT that one well known pro used deca and cyp in addition to his precontest regime getting ready for the USA's...along with some dbol believe it or not....and he was VERY lean and in shape