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Adderall (SP?)

Oh man. How did I miss this thread?

"Adderall" is just the brand name made by Shire Pharmaceutical. There is also a generic version listed as "d-amphetamine combo"

Either way, one of the pills breaks down into equal parts:

Dextroamphetamine saccharate
Dextroamphetamine sulphate
Amphetamine aspartate
Amphetamine sulfate

So what it is is pure pharmaceutical speed, my man. The dextroamphetamine isomers are responsible for the greatest euphoric effects you get in Adderall.

Adderall comes in tabs and now in an extended release version (XR) that is a capsule with a bunch of little beadlets in it ("Microtrol" technology, according to Shire.). Half of the beadlets release instantly, the other half take about four hours to kick in. XR sucks compared to the tabs, in my opinion. I was on 30mg XR for months, and I finally had my doc switch me to the tabs- I don't necessarily want an extra fucking speed kick four hours down the line. I like more personal control over my intake. I get 62 30mg brand name Adderalls a month. Without insurance, it costs $184. With my insurance, I have a co-pay of $25. Not a bad deal. :) If the tab you took was blue, then it was either a 5 or a 10 mg. If that little fucker lit you up, than I don't know what the hell you'd do if you popped one of my 30mg pills. :jump:

Unfortunately, for every yin, there is also a yang. There isn't too much of a comedown, especially at lower dosages, but you won't feel as sharp and you may feel a bit depressed. This is due to the fact that you just zapped the fuck out of your dopamine and norepinephrine levels, and it takes a while to re-stabilize.

Also, amphetamines are severely anorectic- you can barely force yourself to eat. In addition, they increase circulating levels of corticosteroids in your blood- not the best combination for someone trying to bulk up or retain hard-earned muscle, although it is absolutely doable (I've gained 25 pounds this fall and winter, regardless).

And once you've gotten used to having it around, it's a bummer when you have to get something done or have a good time and you've run out. As a double whammy (or at least for me), this brings with it some sense of self-loathing.

Adderall is powerful, fun stuff, and unlike many other drugs, it can actually be used as a tool and by the very nature of our society- one that values work, production...RESULTS, it's more accepted and implicitly encouraged. Adderall is some good stuff to help you get through the drudgery. It makes boring things interesting; it makes work seem like play. Energy and optimism seem limitless when you're on speed. But it's no fun sitting up at 4am, coming down, with noone to talk to- feeling awake but not high anymore- feeling anxious- incessantly flicking through the tracks on your CD's that pulsed right through you two hours ago but now none of them seem to sound quite right. You don't want to do anything, but you don't want to sit around. You question yourself, you think about things- you wonder how real your emotions are. You can't go to sleep- you watch the clock tick by and think about how you're going to have to be at class in a few hours or go to work.....then you start thinking about popping another- or maybe just crushing up part of one and snorting it for a little bump. Day slips into night slips into day slips into night. Now, if you're wanting the machine in you- if you have a deadline you have to meet, a paper you have to finish- if you're working two jobs and going to school and trying to be Mr. PR to drunk fucks every weekend- this can be great at times. If you take your stuff early enough in the day and don't take too much, you'll be fine. Easier said than done man. Otherwise, you have to know when to let it go- put yourself down. Eat some food, let your body replenish and your brain refill. Get some sleep, let your muscles relax.

You can sniff it- it's smooth and sweet and doesn't make your heart pound as hard as cocaine, and I personally think the high is usually better- but you'll get more out of it if you eat it, as long as you don't drink anything acidic with it like orange juice, which interferes with the intestinal absorbtion of amphetamines.

Ritalin was mentioned earlier in this thread. Ritalin, or methylphenidate, is a very close cousin to the basic amphetamine molecule, and according to the reading I've done it was developed for the purpose of providing the "focusing" benefits of amphetamines without the addictive euphoria. It's not shit compared to Adderall, but it will help you get through a night of studying and you can get a nice little high off the stuff too if that's what you're going for.

You do need to know that Adderall is a schedule II substance- in the same class as meth, cocaine, oxycontin, methylphenidate, etc. I just copied off the laws on controlled substances in my state and selling Adderall or posession of the stuff without a prescription is a class Y felony. So don't ever get some off a bud and have the cops find it if they search your car. Probably wouldn't be good.

If you get a scrip, it might well be worth your while. People have been getting through school on speed for decades. It's not the devil, but it can be seductive and it can be addictive. You just have to watch your shit. And man, try not to let people know you have the stuff, or you'll be getting hit up for it damn near every day by one person or another, and when you're up on the shit and feeling all happy and generous, it can be hard to say no. A pill or two here, a pill or two there- pretty soon you've given away half your bottle. Bogart that shit.

That's the rundown on Addies as honestly and factually as I can give it. For more info and experiences, go to:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/amphetamines/amphetamines.shtml
 
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^I should have spent the time that I did on this friggin' essay working on my college algebra.

Wish I had some Adderall right now. LOL.
 
KAYNE said:
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WANT ME TO FEDEX YOU SOME OVERNIGHT??? LOL




KAYNE

LOL. You feel my pain? :D

5 more days and all should be good again. Funny- I have three friends who are all holding out for the 1st of the month for their shit too. All of them go to school and train, too. College town- what can ya say? :FRlol:
 
KAYNE said:
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WANT ME TO FEDEX YOU SOME OVERNIGHT??? LOL




KAYNE

LOL. You feel my pain? :D

5 more days and all should be good again. Funny- I have three friends who are all holding out for the 1st of the month for their shit too. All of them go to school and train, too. College town- what can ya say? :FRlol:
 
Norman Bates said:
casavant and Kayne, can you tell with what dose you started and what dose you are using now?

I just bummed it off friends for a long time just to have fun on mostly. 20mg would do OK. 40mg was damn nice. An 80mg night was the fucking bomb. I'm a big guy, and my tolerance to most drugs seems to go up pretty quick- now I'll pop 60 mg to start- if I have to have a real productive day; if I have to be lots of places, do boring shitty shit, stay up for an extended stretch- I'll typically take 150mg, but that's spread out over quite a long period. 90mg in a day will do me fine usually. You do hit a certain point where it doesn't do you any good anymore. You hit a point of diminishing returns where your brain and body are just tapped out. The bumps don't take you as high or last as long, and eventually you can get to the point where you will take a pill and not even really feel it kick in. It's better not to get to that point, for various reasons.

If I have to go a couple of weeks without it, I can and often do- but that doesn't mean I don't sit there several times througout the day and think, "Damn, I really wish I had some addy right now." That in itself can be detrimental- it's like you've lost your magic feather or something. Or like going from driving a new BMW to a Chrysler station wagon. Just knowing how much better off you'd be can be a distraction in itself, or make you not try as hard on your own- and hey, a lot of the stuff people have to do is boring and tedious. That's why the shit is so popular.
 
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