18 and on steroids

[breagan]

i'm 18 years old and i dream of becoming a pro bodybuilder someday.. i'm 5'8'' and about 215 pounds probably 10% bodyfat or so... just to let u know i'm not a noob to bodybuilding at all i started in like 6th grade for gods sake..
my first cycle was when i was 16 ( flame me all u want i know some will) but i don't regret it at all at the end of my sophomore year in high school i maxed out at 305 pounds on bench now i'm on my third cycle of test/eq/and drol . My question to all you guys out there is honestly what age did u start ? any feedback for me ( negative OR positive ) is much appreciated....

 

[shredded87]

19 when i started

wish i would have waited a few more years till i maxed out genetically

 

[breagan]

and is it a general unwritten rule that if u want to make bodybuilding a career nowadays > u have to start young?

 

[all the whey]

Damn!

I almost guessed you were 18 on your first post.

I didn't start till I was 30 and had 16 yrs lifting under my belt.

I am glad I didn't because I grew 2" between the ages of 20 and 23.


Fuck you younger kids are loaded with test and igf. Why not use it when your young instead of fucking it up.

 

[shredded87]

Fuck you younger kids are loaded with test and igf. Why not use it when your young instead of fucking it up.

amen bro

 

[breagan]

i don't think its a matter of impatience just a matter of my goals.... the way i see it is what is a life where u don't go all out fuckn 100% after what u wanna do?

 

[iceman7]

Started juicing last year. I'm 24 now. Many pros started when they were in their teens so its not uncommon.

But if I were you. I'd work my ass off. Train like a motherfucker and eat like a beast. Reach your goal and stay focused. You've chosen a path. Stick to it religiously. You don't want to look back in regret a decade from now.

Good luck.

 

[breagan]

Started juicing last year. I'm 24 now. Many pros started when they were in their teens so its not uncommon.

But if I were you. I'd work my ass off. Train like a motherfucker and eat like a beast. Reach your goal and stay focused. You've chosen a path. Stick to it religiously. You don't want to look back in regret a decade from now.

Good luck.

iceman those may be some of the best words i've ever read . thanks bro

 

[airsmith2k]

i'm 18 years old and i dream of becoming a pro bodybuilder someday.. i'm 5'8'' and about 215 pounds probably 10% bodyfat or so... just to let u know i'm not a noob to bodybuilding at all i started in like 6th grade for gods sake..
my first cycle was when i was 16 ( flame me all u want i know some will) but i don't regret it at all at the end of my sophomore year in high school i maxed out at 305 pounds on bench now i'm on my third cycle of test/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /and Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . My question to all you guys out there is honestly what age did u start ? any feedback for me ( negative OR positive ) is much appreciated....

started when i was 19.....prolly would of done it in high school if i knew anythin about it then......the stuff has been in the media so much lately, thats why all these high school kids are doing it...its all because of these damn baseball players

 

[nzrodney]

Lee is reported to have started at 15. At 17 he won the State Title. In the life you have free choice. You have chosen your path. Use it wisely to realise your dream.

 

[Bridger]

I would suggest becoming close with a dr or endocrinologist. Get regular complete bloodwork done. Its good to have a goal and go for it, but what good will it be if you fuck up your health permanently?

 

[10001110101]

Fuck you younger kids are loaded with test and igf. Why not use it when your young instead of fucking it up.

i mean i agree, anyone under 21, really more like 25, shouldn't use AAS. but either way, i don't think test and igf levels of teenagers are that muhc different than anyone under 30... maybe very slight difference, but not enough to matter.

the real issue here is they are still developing, stunted growth, stunted testicular development, blah blah etc etc

 

[Tatyana]

Hello and Welcome,

You have big aspirations, and I hope you achieve them.

If being an IFBB pro is your dream, then there are a couple of things I have been recommended to do well in bodybuilding, as it is more than just a sport, it is also entertainment.

1. Get yourself on stage in fantastic condition ASAP in one of the under 21s

2. Get a good coach

3. Find someone who is/has been competing and done well and get some advice from them (my first coach was an IFBB pro who went to Olympia, and her advice was phenomenal, and the gold was not in the diet and training)

4. Start learning how to pose NOW if you don't know already. If you have been teaching yourself, make sure you find someone who has been on stage to check out your posing.

5.Start getting yourself 'out there', your name, face and body known.

6. Start looking for sponsership NOW, but be VERY CAREFUL with who you decide to go with, some sponsers are not worth the benefits they will provide, and they could 'own your butt' for a number of years.

7. Keep a good training and diet journal, so you can go back and find out what did work for you and what didn't. Include your weight, bodyfat, body measurements, how you felt, weights lifted, EVERYTHING you can think of.

8. Have a few photoshoots so you have good quality pics ASAP. You will often find there are quite a few people who love the sport, or photographers who would like to expand their portfolio, again, check carefully with them and get a few things agreed about the use of the pics IN WRITING before.


All that being said, would we be able to have a look at you?

Do you have any training or progress pics?

 

[rambleon]

Nothing much to add from tat's post is there?

Anyways i was 29 when i did my first.

If u started at 16 there will be consequenses of some sort. Now this doesn't mean ur dicks going to fall off or anything but like with everything else there will be a price to pay someday. Make sure its worth it bro. As the boys've said work ur ass of to make the most of it. Good luck.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

i'm 18 years old and i dream of becoming a pro bodybuilder someday.. i'm 5'8'' and about 215 pounds probably 10% bodyfat or so... just to let u know i'm not a noob to bodybuilding at all i started in like 6th grade for gods sake..
my first cycle was when i was 16 ( flame me all u want i know some will) but i don't regret it at all at the end of my sophomore year in high school i maxed out at 305 pounds on bench now i'm on my third cycle of test/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /and Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . My question to all you guys out there is honestly what age did u start ? any feedback for me ( negative OR positive ) is much appreciated....

Did you compete in any shows yet?

 

[bobbie]

i started when i was 16 thats 17 tears ago I hav 3 kids 13year old 10 year old & a baby at 7 mouths old.. so its up 2 u some people hav bad effects some dont ive been lucky

 

[jumpmaster82]

I started at 16 in HS only to try to get a football scholarship. I'm 25 now and somehow ended up in the goddamn army instead of college. I wish now that I had waited but I can't change it now.

 

[xrsist]

i'm 18 years old and i dream of becoming a pro bodybuilder someday.. i'm 5'8'' and about 215 pounds probably 10% bodyfat or so... just to let u know i'm not a noob to bodybuilding at all i started in like 6th grade for gods sake..
my first cycle was when i was 16 ( flame me all u want i know some will) but i don't regret it at all at the end of my sophomore year in high school i maxed out at 305 pounds on bench now i'm on my third cycle of test/Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - /and Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - . My question to all you guys out there is honestly what age did u start ? any feedback for me ( negative OR positive ) is much appreciated....

you do realise you could have grown another inch or 2 easily in the next year or 2? not now tho.. be ready for hrt at an early age if you continue to keep using.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Lee is reported to have started at 15. At 17 he won the State Title. In the life you have free choice. You have chosen your path. Use it wisely to realise your dream.

Agreed. It is a personal choice.

 

[mrribbit]

I started at 24yrs old. I've seen some people that started around 14-16yrs old. Some did it "correctly", some didn't and those who didn't look and feel all fu&$ed up now. They really regret it. I don't condone anyone under 24 yrs old using aas but if they are going to (And many will), they should at least research what they are using and how to use it correctly. Then come here and ask some questions. They will for the most part get flamed pretty bad but this bro will at least advise them on how not mess them selves up for life.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i don't think its a matter of impatience just a matter of my goals.... the way i see it is what is a life where u don't go all out fuckn 100% after what u wanna do?

"All out" for what? Maybe a trophy, a few pics in a magazine and working as a gay escort?

Good luck with your goals.

 

[Tatyana]

"All out" for what? Maybe a trophy, a few pics in a magazine and working as a gay escort?

Good luck with your goals.

Again with the bottom line. I would have to agree with him on this point.

There is a very dark side of competitive BBing.

The life of an IFBB pro is NOT all that it is cut out to be, especially if you never make it as Mr. O.

Very few make a lot of money.

The competitive BBers I know who have done really well for themselves do so by

1. Owning gyms (and then most of them still do PT work)

2. Being educated and have the ability to write/do research into supps etc

3. Become trainers to other competitive BBers

I know one of the natural Mr. Universes.

He now works as a personal trainer in London.

There is a very strong link with the porn/sex trade industry in BBing.

Know your limits and what you are prepared and not prepared to do.

Personally, I think even going the gym/PT route would do my head in, I spend enough time in the gym with my own training, and I LOVE it.

Too much of the same thing would ruin it for me.

I also know of a lot of people who have gotten their pro cards in the nattie feds and IFBB and don't do a lot with them, as it is EXPENSIVE to compete.

 

[Nelson Montana]

Again with the bottom line. I would have to agree with him on this point.

There is a very dark side of competitive BBing.

The life of an IFBB pro is NOT all that it is cut out to be, especially if you never make it as Mr. O.

Very few make a lot of money.

The competitive BBers I know who have done really well for themselves do so by

1. Owning gyms (and then most of them still do PT work)

2. Being educated and have the ability to write/do research into supps etc

3. Become trainers to other competitive BBers

I know one of the natural Mr. Universes.

He now works as a personal trainer in London.

There is a very strong link with the porn/sex trade industry in BBing.

Know your limits and what you are prepared and not prepared to do.

Personally, I think even going the gym/PT route would do my head in, I spend enough time in the gym with my own training, and I LOVE it.

Too much of the same thing would ruin it for me.

I also know of a lot of people who have gotten their pro cards in the nattie feds and IFBB and don't do a lot with them, as it is EXPENSIVE to compete.

Plus...nobody becomes a pro by doing steroids. If you have exceptional potential and start blowing everyone away in shows and want to take it to the next level, sure, you need gear and lots of it -- so much so that you won't make any money. But if that's what you want to do, I respect that. But thinking that it's a career is a joke. Stay on that path and you're bound for loser-dom.

 

[b_light]

You chose the live so make sure you live it, don't become another statistic against us, become something others want to be.

 

[Mavafanculo]

the odds of becoming financially successful as a bodybuilder are even worse than becoming a pro ballplayer. very few make it.

that doesnt mean abandon the dream, but it means you should be realistic and prepare an alternative path for your life in case this falls tru.

continue your education and a plot an alternative carear path in a related or unrelated area

 

[breagan]

You chose the live so make sure you live it, don't become another statistic against us, become something others want to be.

i realise what i am doing will probably have consequences someday for sure.. but i only have one life and damn it i'm going for it. i am not one to fit in with the crowd i have always wanted to stand out and bodybuilding allows me to do this. i will try to get some pics up pretty soon to show u guys what i look like . i just joined EF a week ago lol . i thank everyone for your input and words of wisdom i really appreciate it

 

[b_light]

Well as some have said, if you're going to do this do it right, talk to your doc and make sure your staying healthy.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

i realise what i am doing will probably have consequences someday for sure.. but i only have one life and damn it i'm going for it. i am not one to fit in with the crowd i have always wanted to stand out and bodybuilding allows me to do this. i will try to get some pics up pretty soon to show u guys what i look like . i just joined EF a week ago lol . i thank everyone for your input and words of wisdom i really appreciate it

Have you competed in any shows yet?

Can you post some pics? I'm interested to see at what stage of your development you decided juice was right for you.

 

[breagan]

Have you competed in any shows yet?

Can you post some pics? I'm interested to see at what stage of your development you decided juice was right for you.

i was prepping for the mr.missouri contest last year but due to job troubles i had to leave my gym and my trainer. it sucked hardcore , but now im at a new gym and i'm bulking up to 230 or so . i just need to find someone willing to guide me and help me get into a contest again . ill post some pics later but i gotta get going i got finals today

 

[corto]

I couldn't even imagine trying to get that kind of money at such a young age...what do your parents think? just wondering if they are supportive or in most cases they probably dont know....either way I'd say get in the good habit of constantly monitoring your health, make sure you network and market yourself properly and its good to have a long term goal but make sure you set short term goals for yourself as well. good luck

 

[Big Rick Rock]

i was prepping for the mr.missouri contest last year but due to job troubles i had to leave my gym and my trainer. it sucked hardcore , but now im at a new gym and i'm bulking up to 230 or so . i just need to find someone willing to guide me and help me get into a contest again . ill post some pics later but i gotta get going i got finals today

Post some pics and let me see what you are working with... I might just get somebody to work with you on your training and contest prep.

 

[chazk]

your stats really dont sound that far off for you being 18
jaycutler was 5'9 at 225lbs 8%bf back in 91 for his first show
he lost to a leaner smaller and more symetric guy that was 185lbs

as far as your ability to grow and bulk up ?
Thats only part of the equation your ability to carry the muscle in the right areas and be symetric is also going to play the biggest factor.

For example lots of guys out their in gyms all over the country that are 5'10 250lbs +
but just dont have the shape to compete.

But don't let anyone ever talk you out of it.Just be realistic in your goals.

 

[eddymerckx]

your stats really dont sound that far off for you being 18
jaycutler was 5'9 at 225lbs 8%bf back in 91 for his first show
he lost to a leaner smaller and more symetric guy that was 185lbs

as far as your ability to grow and bulk up ?
Thats only part of the equation your ability to carry the muscle in the right areas and be symetric is also going to play the biggest factor.

For example lots of guys out their in gyms all over the country that are 5'10 250lbs +
but just dont have the shape to compete.

But don't let anyone ever talk you out of it.Just be realistic in your goals.

and please please find a doc you trust and get your bloodwork done often--

 

[nisser512]

How do things look down there from 5'8''?

 

[nzrodney]

While I agree that a lot of advise here comes with good intent, I am rather dissapointed in the negative response in general shown to a young man who has taken a very big decission to follow his dream. How many of you are pro bodybuilders? What you seem to dismiss is the fitness industry encompasses a huge variety of directions that can be opened up to someone with a passion for this. This is a service industry with tremendous potential for growth in the next 10-20 years mainly due to the aging poulation & lack of physical activity among the general public & its associated spinoff into general health.

 

[breagan]

While I agree that a lot of advise here comes with good intent, I am rather dissapointed in the negative response in general shown to a young man who has taken a very big decission to follow his dream. How many of you are pro bodybuilders? What you seem to dismiss is the fitness industry encompasses a huge variety of directions that can be opened up to someone with a passion for this. This is a service industry with tremendous potential for growth in the next 10-20 years mainly due to the aging poulation & lack of physical activity among the general public & its associated spinoff into general health.

thanks for backing me up man . some people can really pack the heat on these forums

 

[nzrodney]

thanks for backing me up man . some people can really pack the heat on these forums

"Shoot for the stars, even if you miss you might land on the moon!"

 

[borris]

Again with the bottom line. I would have to agree with him on this point.

There is a very dark side of competitive BBing.

The life of an IFBB pro is NOT all that it is cut out to be, especially if you never make it as Mr. O.

Very few make a lot of money.

The competitive BBers I know who have done really well for themselves do so by

1. Owning gyms (and then most of them still do PT work)

2. Being educated and have the ability to write/do research into supps etc

3. Become trainers to other competitive BBers

I know one of the natural Mr. Universes.

He now works as a personal trainer in London.

There is a very strong link with the porn/sex trade industry in BBing.

Know your limits and what you are prepared and not prepared to do.

Personally, I think even going the gym/PT route would do my head in, I spend enough time in the gym with my own training, and I LOVE it.

Too much of the same thing would ruin it for me.

I also know of a lot of people who have gotten their pro cards in the nattie feds and IFBB and don't do a lot with them, as it is EXPENSIVE to compete.

Really? What kind of connection? Can you elaborate on this

 

[Big Rick Rock]

Post some pics and let me see what you are working with... I might just get somebody to work with you on your training and contest prep.

>chirp< >chirp<

 

[Inhibitor13]

Id like to see some pics... post up !

 

[b_light]

"everyone wants to be a bodybuilder but nobody wants to post no internet pics" -big ron

 

[breagan]

>chirp< >chirp<

yeah big rick i'm not familiar with the whole picture thing, i know i should know how to do this but i havent ever. if u could fill me in ill give it a shot haha thanks

 

[Nelson Montana]

While I agree that a lot of advise here comes with good intent, I am rather dissapointed in the negative response in general shown to a young man who has taken a very big decission to follow his dream. How many of you are pro bodybuilders? What you seem to dismiss is the fitness industry encompasses a huge variety of directions that can be opened up to someone with a passion for this. This is a service industry with tremendous potential for growth in the next 10-20 years mainly due to the aging poulation & lack of physical activity among the general public & its associated spinoff into general health.

Not really. If anything, the industry has become overflooded. But he's not even talking about that. He wants to be a pro and that is not a career. It isn't supportive to encourage a person's "dream" if its unrealistic. I've been around long enough to have known so many guys who thought they were going to be professional athletes or rock stars and what have you and then by 30 realized it's not going to happen but by then it was too late to make a better life for themselves. Believe me, my advice of getting one's head out of their ass is much better than saying "That's great dear, how's the view?"

 

[Tatyana]

Really? What kind of connection? Can you elaborate on this

A lot of male and female bodybuilders have websites with pay per view for erotic/pornographic images

http://www.melissadettwiller.com/

http://www.denisemasino.com/

http://www.joannathomas.com/

http://www.herbiceps.com/

http://www.billdobbins.com/

http://www.femflex.com/free/

http://deekay.delimit.net/index849.html?page=bbwomen

http://www.livemuscleshow.com/?gclid=COr-oKLBqJACFRMXQgodURPghQ

Just a few sites, there are loads of them on the net

 

[chazk]

true tatyana

I rember seeing a guy named ronnie st cloud at the mr o years ago.
Then next thing I know got misdirected online one click lead to another.
Next thing yea know ronnie st cloud has his giant 10 inch slong taking turns banging skinny white chicks.

Hell even arnold has some old nude photos from where he posed for some gay rag back in the late 60's becuase he needed the money.

 

[Acela]

I hate to say it but those chicks are gross and I am "in" to that look (to a certain degree)

A lot of male and female bodybuilders have websites with pay per view for erotic/pornographic images

http://www.melissadettwiller.com/

http://www.denisemasino.com/

http://www.joannathomas.com/

http://www.herbiceps.com/

http://www.billdobbins.com/

http://www.femflex.com/free/

http://deekay.delimit.net/index849.html?page=bbwomen

http://www.livemuscleshow.com/?gclid=COr-oKLBqJACFRMXQgodURPghQ

Just a few sites, there are loads of them on the net

 

[Tatyana]

true tatyana

I rember seeing a guy named ronnie st cloud at the mr o years ago.
Then next thing I know got misdirected online one click lead to another.
Next thing yea know ronnie st cloud has his giant 10 inch slong taking turns banging skinny white chicks.

Hell even arnold has some old nude photos from where he posed for some gay rag back in the late 60's becuase he needed the money.

WOW, I would love to see those pics of Arnie

That being said, there is a difference between nudes and erotic art and pornography IMHO.

I think anytime there are images of the human body, they will probably be sexually charged to someone.

 

[chazk]

WOW, I would love to see those pics of Arnie

That being said, there is a difference between nudes and erotic art and pornography IMHO.

I think anytime there are images of the human body, they will probably be sexually charged to someone.

true tat I sent you a link to arnolds pics
they were more of art then anything else

If I looked like arnold back in his prime I prob would pose nude and walk around naked alot my self.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

yeah big rick i'm not familiar with the whole picture thing, i know i should know how to do this but i havent ever. if u could fill me in ill give it a shot haha thanks

You are an 18yrl who uses the net but doesn't know how to post a pic.

Ok bro...

 

[chazk]

You are an 18yrl who uses the net but doesn't know how to post a pic.

Ok bro...

to add to it he is cycling roids,getting needles and juice but does not know how to take a picture.
I say delete this whole thread it's pointless with out pics.

 

[bw1]

Pics?

 

[Acela]

may I see a pic?

 

[all the whey]

to add to it he is cycling steroids,getting needles and juice but does not know how to take a picture.
I say delete this whole thread it's pointless with out pics.

It is more important if for everyone...

get stats
find out diet and training history
not recommend kids under atleast 25 to juice. (let them use their high levels of test and igf they have at that age)

Then, recommend a cycle. (a sane cycle like 8 wk 300-400mg test or 40 or 50mg var for 6 weeks...only examples)


Guys just need to quit throwing out examples of "good" cycles. (especially with high doses and multiple roids)

This shit is serious!!!!

 

[breagan]

may I see a pic?

this freakin weekend boys i'm getting em up haha i'll get me a nice pump on and show you whats up

 

[binö]

While I agree that a lot of advise here comes with good intent, I am rather dissapointed in the negative response in general shown to a young man who has taken a very big decission to follow his dream. How many of you are pro bodybuilders? What you seem to dismiss is the fitness industry encompasses a huge variety of directions that can be opened up to someone with a passion for this. This is a service industry with tremendous potential for growth in the next 10-20 years mainly due to the aging poulation & lack of physical activity among the general public & its associated spinoff into general health.

what does being in the fitness industry have to do with teen juicing?

 

[eddymerckx]

It is more important if for everyone...

get stats
find out diet and training history
not recommend kids under atleast 25 to juice. (let them use their high levels of test and igf they have at that age)

Then, recommend a cycle. (a sane cycle like 8 wk 300-400mg test or 40 or 50mg Anavar - oxandrolone - for 6 weeks...only examples)


Guys just need to quit throwing out examples of "good" cycles. (especially with high doses and multiple steroids)

This shit is serious!!!!

+1 and a bunch of zeros

 

[samoth]

Not really. If anything, the industry has become overflooded. But he's not even talking about that. He wants to be a pro and that is not a career. It isn't supportive to encourage a person's "dream" if its unrealistic. I've been around long enough to have known so many guys who thought they were going to be professional athletes or rock stars and what have you and then by 30 realized it's not going to happen but by then it was too late to make a better life for themselves. Believe me, my advice of getting one's head out of their ass is much better than saying "That's great dear, how's the view?"

I totally agree with Nelson. One has a much better chance of being a rock star than a professional bodybuilder.

Follow your dreams... but be realistic. There comes a point when everyone must grow up and realize there are natural and statistical limits to what one can do in life. (You won't be a pro bodybuilder. You won't be the president. You won't fly to the moon. Sorry.) You should try focusing on something more productive -- and less potentially harmful -- when you look to your future. Like, work on getting into med school or something else a bit more realistic and beneficial to your future instead of starting illegal drug use at an early age...

 

[breagan]

I totally agree with Nelson. One has a much better chance of being a rock star than a professional bodybuilder.

Follow your dreams... but be realistic. There comes a point when everyone must grow up and realize there are natural and statistical limits to what one can do in life. (You won't be a pro bodybuilder. You won't be the president. You won't fly to the moon. Sorry.) You should try focusing on something more productive -- and less potentially harmful -- when you look to your future. Like, work on getting into med school or something else a bit more realistic and beneficial to your future instead of starting illegal drug use at an early age...

ouch . are u trying to destroy my dreams ?

 

[samoth]

ouch . are u trying to destroy my dreams ?

Not at all. Just giving you an injection of reality. Keep your dreams, but don't let them cloud you from the real world.

 

[nzrodney]

You Create Your Own Reality

 

[borris]

true tatyana

I rember seeing a guy named ronnie st cloud at the mr o years ago.
Then next thing I know got misdirected online one click lead to another.
Next thing yea know ronnie st cloud has his giant 10 inch slong taking turns banging skinny white chicks.

Hell even arnold has some old nude photos from where he posed for some gay rag back in the late 60's becuase he needed the money.

lol @ misdirected and randomly seeing that exact dude

 

[eddymerckx]

You Create Your Own Reality

isn't that called a delusion?

 

[nzrodney]

isn't that called a delusion?

If that's what you want, that is what you will create!

 

[nzrodney]

Not really. If anything, the industry has become overflooded. But he's not even talking about that. He wants to be a pro and that is not a career. It isn't supportive to encourage a person's "dream" if its unrealistic. I've been around long enough to have known so many guys who thought they were going to be professional athletes or rock stars and what have you and then by 30 realized it's not going to happen but by then it was too late to make a better life for themselves. Believe me, my advice of getting one's head out of their ass is much better than saying "That's great dear, how's the view?"

And would you be here running one of the biggest BB sites on the net & written all those articles and helped so many people if you did not have a desire, a passion, a dream? Sure not everyone gets to the top but some do.

 

[Nelson Montana]

And would you be here running one of the biggest BB sites on the net & written all those articles and helped so many people if you did not have a desire, a passion, a dream? Sure not everyone gets to the top but some do.

Well, it wasn't all a dream. I've done many things in my life and still do , but I've been involved in bodybuilding for a long time and have a talent for writing and that's where I got a break so it became a business. (And for the record, I don't run this site).

What I'm saying is, a dream is not enough. You need a plan, and a backup plan. And an education. If a 50 year old man told you his "dream" was to be a major league pitcher, would you recommend he give up everything to pursue it?

It's fine if you want to be a pro, but even Ronnie Coleman had a real job.

 

[nzrodney]

Well, it wasn't all a dream. I've done many things in my life and still do , but I've been involved in bodybuilding for a long time and have a talent for writing and that's where I got a break so it became a business. (And for the record, I don't run this site).

What I'm saying is, a dream is not enough. You need a plan, and a backup plan. And an education. If a 50 year old man told you his "dream" was to be a major league pitcher, would you recommend he give up everything to pursue it?

It's fine if you want to be a pro, but even Ronnie Coleman had a real job.

Of course to make your reality happen you must plan, educate, & have some form of financial security, but firstly your must have DESIRE. Without strong intent you will never realise your dream. Next to Love , Passion is the strongest emotion. It is not for us to extinguish that from any other Soul.

 

[Inhibitor13]

Ok this thread went just a little off topic... Im still waiting for these pics!

 

[binö]

Of course to make your reality happen you must plan, educate, & have some form of financial security, but firstly your must have DESIRE. Without strong intent you will never realise your dream. Next to Love , Passion is the strongest emotion. It is not for us to extinguish that from any other Soul.

i think you are missing the point here.
it's great to have dreams/aspirations/goals
but it's not great to abuse drugs at such a young age in search of a elusive dream.

 

[Big Rick Rock]

to add to it he is cycling steroids,getting needles and juice but does not know how to take a picture.
I say delete this whole thread it's pointless with out pics.

I think he is full of it.

 

[b_light]

Take it what you will but this is my view right now on how i will use aas. Right now im 19 so im gonna take it easy and stick to regular cycles, nothing crazy. Once i'm in my 20's if everything is going well i'll start hitting the shit hard. Seems best for optimal growth and optimal health.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think he is full of it.

I'm with you.

A dream is sometimes just a delusion.

 

[Tatyana]

Take it what you will but this is my view right now on how i will use anabolic androgenic steroids. Right now im 19 so im gonna take it easy and stick to regular cycles, nothing crazy. Once i'm in my 20's if everything is going well i'll start hitting the shit hard. Seems best for optimal growth and optimal health.

What is a regular cycle to you?

Hun, your natural test does not peak till 26, and then remains elevated till around 30-32.

Messing with it at such a young age, you have probably only had test in your system for 6 - 7 year max, and you have another 50-60 years to go.

 

[KickNitRight]

Am I in the minority? Why use roids at all? Is it merely to compete? You don't trust your diet and exercise?

 

[breagan]

I'm with you.

A dream is sometimes just a delusion.

OK everyone take a fat chill pill ! my 22 year old sister is the only one in this house with a camera alright, she works a lot , when she has the time to take some pics of me posing i will! i'm not full of it i'm going to get some up here ok bros simmer down

 

[digger]

While I agree that a lot of advise here comes with good intent, I am rather dissapointed in the negative response in general shown to a young man who has taken a very big decission to follow his dream.

The "negativity" is because we hear over and over "I'm going to do this, no matter what I'm told" or worse, "I've already done this, despite good advice to the contrary." It's heartbreaking when a young man comes here with a chip on his shoulder, looking for the magic bullet that will make him rich and famous. It doesn't work that way.

You're rather disappointed; I'm rather impressed that most of the responses (I'm up to page three) have shown restraint and understanding.

I'm glad this specific young man started out by saying he'd hear us out about the negatives... because you have to admit that there are negatives, especially for someone starting that young.

 

[nisser512]

Take it what you will but this is my view right now on how i will use anabolic androgenic steroids. Right now im 19 so im gonna take it easy and stick to regular cycles, nothing crazy. Once i'm in my 20's if everything is going well i'll start hitting the shit hard. Seems best for optimal growth and optimal health.

Hitting shit 'hard' and 'optimal health' should never be in the same sentence.

 

[Inhibitor13]

No pics yet huh??

 

[b_light]

Hitting shit 'hard' and 'optimal health' should never be in the same sentence.

I was referring to what my plans are now, not the hitting it hard part.

 

[b_light]

What is a regular cycle to you?

Hun, your natural test does not peak till 26, and then remains elevated till around 30-32.

Messing with it at such a young age, you have probably only had test in your system for 6 - 7 year max, and you have another 50-60 years to go.

10-12 weeks around 500mg test and maybe another compound or 2 at a sane dosage. Although if i find a strongman comp to qualify for nationals over the summer i will be doing what ever it takes.

 

[chazk]

bump 4 pics

 

[b_light]

i think hes gone guys.

 

[Nelson Montana]

i think hes gone guys.

The BS tolerance on EF is very low. Maybe he'll have better luck on BB.com where he can play "make-believe" with the rest of the wannabes.

 

[breagan]

The BS tolerance on EF is very low. Maybe he'll have better luck on BB.com where he can play "make-believe" with the rest of the wannabes.

GOD DAMN. that fuckn hurts man! TO PUT IT TRUTHFULLY- I DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE ACCESS TO A CAMERA RIGHT NOW ! i'm not a wannabe bro. i will get some pics up eventually just don't destroy me any more please!

 

[SaladFork]

OK everyone take a fat chill pill ! my 22 year old sister is the only one in this house with a camera alright, she works a lot , when she has the time to take some pics of me posing i will! i'm not full of it i'm going to get some up here ok bros simmer down

Screw the pics of you, lets see your sister!!! (sorry couldn't resist!)

 

[eddymerckx]

i still think he/she is a reporter--the language use is not that of an 18yo....

 

[all the whey]

i still think he/she is a reporter--the language use is not that of an 18yo....

I thought that awhile ago.

And, I thought it might be an alter of Holy Ghost to fuck with everyone.

 

[eddymerckx]

I thought that awhile ago.

And, I thought it might be an alter of Holy Ghost to fuck with everyone.

great minds think alike----asking about the insulin would be a great fact for a story if everyone had not called him an idiot for even thinking about it...

 

[SaladFork]

i still think he/she is a reporter--the language use is not that of an 18yo....

Reporter as in TV/New? No way, he/she has the worst grammar. Horrible english, I was thinking 'it' could be from another country?

 

[all the whey]

great minds think alike----asking about the insulin would be a great fact for a story if everyone had not called him an idiot for even thinking about it...

Well, his first post was asking if anyone used or knew if his gear from ....a well known source was good.

 

[eddymerckx]

Well, his first post was asking if anyone used or knew if his gear from ....a well known source was good.

i think the reason i thought reporter was this question

"the stuff has been in the media so much lately, thats why all these high school kids are doing it...its all because of these damn baseball players"

'these high school kids" sounds like someone very detatched from that age group...like me

 

[all the whey]

i think the reason i thought reporter was this question

"the stuff has been in the media so much lately, thats why all these high school kids are doing it...its all because of these damn baseball players"

'these high school kids" sounds like someone very detatched from that age group...like me

That and he had an older friend from the gym telling him to us insulin.

Two different groups of juicers won't even look at me anymore, because I got on there case for telling younger kids to hit the juice.

 

[eddymerckx]

That and he had an older friend from the gym telling him to us insulin.

Two different groups of juicers won't even look at me anymore, because I got on there case for telling younger kids to hit the juice.

he/she/it got someone to bite--some dude is giving he/she/it detailed instructions on insulin use--if he/she/it is for real the poor kid is going to end up dead....and that will be end of bbs

 

[all the whey]

he/she/it got someone to bite--some dude is giving he/she/it detailed instructions on insulin use--if he/she/it is for real the poor kid is going to end up dead....and that will be end of bbs

That sucks.


I am happy most guys are telling him and other younger guys to wait.

I got sick of coming here awhile ago because they were telling everyone to juice!!!

 

[eddymerckx]

That sucks.


I am happy most guys are telling him and other younger guys to wait.

I got sick of coming here awhile ago because they were telling everyone to juice!!!

i think the most dangerous thing is not the kid that posts, but the thousands that read the thread and think its okay---as if the issue is not high profile enough right now...

someone found a pic of him/her/it--pretty funny

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/how-use-insulin-properly-577360-4.html

 

[all the whey]

i think the most dangerous thing is not the kid that posts, but the thousands that read the thread and think its okay---as if the issue is not high profile enough right now...

someone found a pic of him/her/it--pretty funny

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/steroids-discussion-forum/how-use-insulin-properly-577360-4.html

lol

I was lucky. I used to date a girl whos older brother and friends competed. I was about 24. They told me I was young and could gain without juice. I am glad they told me I wasn't ready. I gained another 30lbs by the time I was 30. ( I first juiced around 31) Everyone though I was juicing because I added muscle and had some nice abs. It is amazing what you can do when you learn how to train and eat correctly.

 

[eddymerckx]

lol

I was lucky. I used to date a girl whos older brother and friends competed. I was about 24. They told me I was young and could gain without juice. I am glad they told me I wasn't ready. I gained another 30lbs by the time I was 30. ( I first juiced around 31) Everyone though I was juicing because I added muscle and had some nice abs. It is amazing what you can do when you learn how to train and eat correctly.

I started at 39--with my personality if i had started in my 20s i would have prob done some really stupid things(not meant as disrepect to guys doing gear in their 20s--but specific only to me) so i am glad/lucky i waited

 

[SaladFork]

I had amazing gains last year without juice, everyone at work thought I was on juice and I’m 33!!

All joking aside… I haven’t been here very long, but seriously listen to these guys who have been using for years. I’m like you I want to jump right in, jam a needle in my ass and hit it. But after reading, talking and getting feedback I’m going to wait a bit. Enjoy your endless boners dude. Keep on dieting and eating healthy and lifting you will grow, just don’t rush it.

Ps. You better post a picture, they will not let that go until you do.
Pps. Make sure to include pics of your 22yr old sister as well!

 

[eddymerckx]

I had amazing gains last year without juice, everyone at work thought I was on juice and I’m 33!!

All joking aside… I haven’t been here very long, but seriously listen to these guys who have been using for years. I’m like you I want to jump right in, jam a needle in my ass and hit it. But after reading, talking and getting feedback I’m going to wait a bit. Enjoy your endless boners dude. Keep on dieting and eating healthy and lifting you will grow, just don’t rush it.

Ps. You better post a picture, they will not let that go until you do.
Pps. Make sure to include pics of your 22yr old sister as well!

i think one thing this reporter/le/kid has brought out is that a large percentage of people that post on this board are very clear about their opposition to doing gear too young-while a much smaller number don't care.

i am especially impressed with the guys that admit to doing gear when younger but advise against it--and they are the ones that would know.

the one thing i do not agree with is the logic that "if they are going to use it anyway might as well tell them how"--if they were really serious about doing gear the correct way, they would buy some of the ef books or the others out there--these kids just come here for a little boost--they are on the fence and just want someone to push them the wrong way...

 

[nzrodney]

i think one thing this reporter/le/kid has brought out is that a large percentage of people that post on this board are very clear about their opposition to doing gear too young-while a much smaller number don't care.

i am especially impressed with the guys that admit to doing gear when younger but advise against it--and they are the ones that would know.

the one thing i do not agree with is the logic that "if they are going to use it anyway might as well tell them how"--if they were really serious about doing gear the correct way, they would buy some of the ef books or the others out there--these kids just come here for a little boost--they are on the fence and just want someone to push them the wrong way...

This guy has already fallen off the fence, Eddy. While I respect your opinion, he is already reported to be on his 3rd cycle. I would rather get flamed from trying to assist in his drug usage protocols, than be trying to pick up the pieces at the end when he crashes though lack of understanding & advise.

 

[breagan]

I had amazing gains last year without juice, everyone at work thought I was on juice and I’m 33!!

All joking aside… I haven’t been here very long, but seriously listen to these guys who have been using for years. I’m like you I want to jump right in, jam a needle in my ass and hit it. But after reading, talking and getting feedback I’m going to wait a bit. Enjoy your endless boners dude. Keep on dieting and eating healthy and lifting you will grow, just don’t rush it.

Ps. You better post a picture, they will not let that go until you do.
Pps. Make sure to include pics of your 22yr old sister as well!

ha i don't know if my sister will agree to this but i'll see . . honestly i can't wait till u guys see i'm no joke .. .