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1010 bench press

locutus said:
The shirt benched 500lbs and He benched 510lbs. Seriously, I bet raw not even in the ballpark of 1000lbs.
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I think that dude is around 600-700 raw I cant remember. But still just the shear force of 1000 on your body its amazing that he can do that.
 
that is scary dude!
 
You guys are NUTS if that impresses you. That shirt prob. adds 300-400 lbs to his bench. So he can prob. bench 600-700lbs which now adays isn't anything spectacular. Oh and by the way he prob weighs over 300 lbs
 
bigjd69 said:
You guys are NUTS if that impresses you. That shirt prob. adds 300-400 lbs to his bench. So he can prob. bench 600-700lbs which now adays isn't anything spectacular. Oh and by the way he prob weighs over 300 lbs
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I agree with you about the shirt, but a 600-700 lb bench doesn't impress you?!?! Even at 300 lbs, that at least 2x's his bodyweight. Thats great. Even with drugs a lot of people could never do that.
 
I agree that that is an impressive press no matter how you look at it, but I really never agreed or understood why shirts are allowed in competion. I can see using knee wraps for squats or elbow wraps for bench but the shirts do way too much of the work.
 
I have to agree on the shirt thing. This kind of talk usually starts a fight with the powerlifters because they feel the shirt is a safety thing. I just think that if you can gain over 300 lbs on a lift by putting on a piece of equipment then it is not safety related and more for shock value. Andy Bolton; now that's some raw fucking strength.
 
dont want to get into this argument at all, ill just say this...

shirt or not, that is 1000lbs+ in his hands, held out at arms reach over his throat. none of you realize the amount of strength, work, and dedication it requires to even unrack that amount of weight. the shirt does nothing for you if you cant support the weight in the first place. I wish once, just ONCE, one of you haters would actually put a fucking bench shirt on and attempt to bench the outrageous claims you make in these threads. Take your 5 sets of 12 with 150lbs, and shove it up your asses. OK now im getting fired up so im just gonna roll with it. PLEASE, one of you, borrow a bench shirt from someone, and put 200lbs above your max on the bar, no..no just 100lbs above your max and do it. I bet 90% of you cant even get it out of the fuckin rack.
 
It does not take much practice to develop enough strength to put 150 lbs over your max off the rack. I do it all the time when I do lock outs 2 to 3" movements. As for shirts, A guy in a local competiton was disqualified on a lift(600lbs +) because he could not even PULL the bar down far enough to touch his chest, so shirts do the work. I like to see that guy even bring that 1010 controlled down to his chest without a shirt, but then i guess we would be reading about his demise.
 
DaveTSI said:
dont want to get into this argument at all, ill just say this...

shirt or not, that is 1000lbs+ in his hands, held out at arms reach over his throat. none of you realize the amount of strength, work, and dedication it requires to even unrack that amount of weight. the shirt does nothing for you if you cant support the weight in the first place. I wish once, just ONCE, one of you haters would actually put a fucking bench shirt on and attempt to bench the outrageous claims you make in these threads. Take your 5 sets of 12 with 150lbs, and shove it up your asses. OK now im getting fired up so im just gonna roll with it. PLEASE, one of you, borrow a bench shirt from someone, and put 200lbs above your max on the bar, no..no just 100lbs above your max and do it. I bet 90% of you cant even get it out of the fuckin rack.
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I realize the amount of work they do but I still think it's bs. I actually have an Inzer single ply bench shirt but I never use it because I don't compete so I see no point, and it's a royal pain in the ass to get on and off. I definitely could not get 100 lbs over my max but if I practiced with it I'm sure I could. I do however know guys that get 200lbs or more out of their shirt.
 
02gixxersix said:
I realize the amount of work they do but I still think it's bs. I actually have an Inzer single ply bench shirt but I never use it because I don't compete so I see no point, and it's a royal pain in the ass to get on and off. I definitely could not get 100 lbs over my max but if I practiced with it I'm sure I could. I do however know guys that get 200lbs or more out of their shirt.
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and do they put a ton of work in to get there? someone who can get 200lbs out of a shirt is a very strong individual.
 
I'm in no way knocking the insane amount of work these guys put it. It's an insane amount of work and these guys are dedicated and motivated beyond belief. Shit that guy can bench almost 3 times what I can raw. I still don't necessarily like shirts. I think what you can bench raw is what you can bench and that's all there is too it. And there is a guy on one of the boards who PLs and he benches 405 raw and like 650 or something stupid with a shirt. I'm sorry but at 405 you have not reached a point where it is a safety issue IMO. I have a friend who is 40 yrs old, natural for the last 7 yrs, a BB, and just benched 525 raw. Now is he the norm? No. But I'm just saying. It may be a good thing when used properly but when it is a crutch or used just to get big numbers I think it's stupid, and these super duper triple ply denim shirts and what not are overkill when you're calling it safety related. I saw a video where I think Mendelson tried for 1035 if I remember correctly and couldn't even get it to touch his chest. That means that at the bottom the shirt was holding more than 1035 lbs. Again I'm obviously not knocking these guys but the shirt thing has gotten out of control IMO.
 
I've never been able to get more than 35 pounds with a shirt. I was hitting 370 raw at one point and I put on a single ply Inzer denim shirt and got 405.
 
no that video is not real obviously, are you kidding. they are fake plates
 
No I am not kidding. How do you know that plates are fake? They clink when he finally re-racks so there has to be some kind of metal in the plates right? Alluminium maybe? Obviously I have my doubts about any human being (especially that small) being able to man-handle 585 lbs on flat bench and that is why I put the video up. If there is even a remote possibility that it is possible I want to know about it though haha.
 
my friends were there and they did it too, it was a special booth set up at the arnold

and it doesnt take much grey matter to figure out that none super heavyweight in the world could do that with 585, let alone that weak looking dude in the video
 
Very cool and glad you know someone who was there. I have a few freinds that were there and one of which won his division. By chance do you have any videos and/or pictures of your friends pushing this massive amount of rubbish? The miniscule amount of grey matter I poses would love to see it. ;)
 
DaveTSI said:
my friends were there and they did it too, it was a special booth set up at the arnold

and it doesnt take much grey matter to figure out that none super heavyweight in the world could do that with 585, let alone that weak looking dude in the video
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If there are oly lifters in the 150 Pound range doing a Snatch of 363 and a Clean and Jerk of 429, it's possible for someone to toss up 585 on a bench with impunity.

Not saying that's the case here, but you can't always judge a book by it's cover.
 
sardonicone said:
If there are oly lifters in the 150 Pound range doing a Snatch of 363 and a Clean and Jerk of 429, it's possible for someone to toss up 585 on a bench with impunity.

Not saying that's the case here, but you can't always judge a book by it's cover.
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no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please

oly lifting is all about technique and training the body to exert massive amounts of energy into one explosive lift. To say that someone can snatch 2-2.5x's their bodyweight for 1 rep is one thing. Saying someone could do that for 20+ reps on benchpress is ludacrous. With good coaching and a solid program some amazing poundages can be lifted overhead by oly lifters. Most people don't know that the human body is capable of creating that much power and explosion. But as far as benchpressing, bench is all about brute strength and has very little to do with technique, and our bodies simply are not capable of that much brute strength. its apples to oranges
 
DaveTSI said:
no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please

oly lifting is all about technique and training the body to exert massive amounts of energy into one explosive lift. To say that someone can snatch 2-2.5x's their bodyweight for 1 rep is one thing. Saying someone could do that for 20+ reps on benchpress is ludacrous. With good coaching and a solid program some amazing poundages can be lifted overhead by oly lifters. Most people don't know that the human body is capable of creating that much power and explosion. But as far as benchpressing, bench is all about brute strength and has very little to do with technique, and our bodies simply are not capable of that much brute strength. its apples to oranges
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Is it really? Consider where weightlifting records were 200 years ago as opposed to today? You think evolution is stagnant? Moreover, you honestly think technology isn't now outpacing evolution?

First off, everything is possible (quantum mechanics, yo). However, I'm not arguing semantics. I'm talking about the realm of plausability. Just because it hasn't been done (yet, as far as we know...) doesn't mean it won't be.

Though I will say 20 reps is very, very far fetched (@585), I've seen vids though of people doing 405 for 20. That's already more than 2/3 the amount we're talking about.
 
sardonicone said:
Is it really? Consider where weightlifting records were 200 years ago as opposed to today? You think evolution is stagnant? Moreover, you honestly think technology isn't now outpacing evolution?

First off, everything is possible (quantum mechanics, yo). However, I'm not arguing semantics. I'm talking about the realm of plausability. Just because it hasn't been done (yet, as far as we know...) doesn't mean it won't be.

Though I will say 20 reps is very, very far fetched (@585), I've seen vids though of people doing 405 for 20. That's already more than 2/3 the amount we're talking about.
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evolution takes thousands of years to change a species to any real extent, not 200 years. it just sounds to me like you dont really have any idea how much weight 585lbs is and the amount strength it takes to move it. I have been involved in powerlifting for years and i have seen the strongest of the strongest lift. People who have taken every aas in existence and trained for years on end. They are lucky to move that off their chest once. At most ive seen someone bench 585 for 4 or 5 reps, and those are the TOP benchpressers in the world. it will not happen dude, i dont care how much scientific mumbo jumbo you want to try and throw at it.

btw 585 for 20 reps in a 1rm calculator puts your max bench at over well over 1000lbs, the highest raw bench ever is 715. if you think anyone will ever add 300lbs to that you're out of your mind.
 
DaveTSI said:
no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please
I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike
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txmike said:
I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike
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its 715
 
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I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike
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Bullshit

DaveTSI evolution takes thousands of years to change a species to any real extent, not 200 years. it just sounds to me like you dont really have any idea how much weight 585lbs is and the amount strength it takes to move it. I have been involved in powerlifting for years and i have seen the strongest of the strongest lift. People who have taken every aas in existence and trained for years on end. They are lucky to move that off their chest once. At most ive seen someone bench 585 for 4 or 5 reps, and those are the TOP benchpressers in the world. it will not happen dude, i dont care how much scientific mumbo jumbo you want to try and throw at it.
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Dave is right on with this statement. Evolution if there is such a thing, is surely not in our lifetime.It is more like chemical and training evolution that has made these weights possible.
 
lol I love what people consider "impressive" and unimpressive..Knee wraps? 250 lbs.....put the pipe DOWN!! Squat Suit 500lbs of force....? really....the material isn't placing force upon the weight. It may help to support the weight a little..Whenever I went over 1k on leg press I use knee wraps and I could feel the wraps for sure. saying a 1200 lb squat is 600 lbs because he has a knee wrap and a weight belt and a squat suit? he had a volkswagon on his shoulders the belt kept his spine aligned the wraps kept his knee's from exploding with 1 thousand 2 hundred lbs of forced added to the normal load of his probably close to 3oo lb body. It's impressive imo...Raw is Raw....That's like saying saggy tits are ok...Stick a bra on them they look good right? @#$# that I want perky!

Just my .02
 
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impressive but he really doesnt have to bring it down to far due to the fact his chest is like a huge mound, but its more than i can ever do haha
 
Some really sickly impressive lifts throughout this entire thread no matter which way or form you look at it :evil: That strong man's shoulder training is insane to mention one!
 
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