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1010 bench press

sardonicone said:
If there are oly lifters in the 150 Pound range doing a Snatch of 363 and a Clean and Jerk of 429, it's possible for someone to toss up 585 on a bench with impunity.

Not saying that's the case here, but you can't always judge a book by it's cover.

no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please

oly lifting is all about technique and training the body to exert massive amounts of energy into one explosive lift. To say that someone can snatch 2-2.5x's their bodyweight for 1 rep is one thing. Saying someone could do that for 20+ reps on benchpress is ludacrous. With good coaching and a solid program some amazing poundages can be lifted overhead by oly lifters. Most people don't know that the human body is capable of creating that much power and explosion. But as far as benchpressing, bench is all about brute strength and has very little to do with technique, and our bodies simply are not capable of that much brute strength. its apples to oranges
 
DaveTSI said:
no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please

oly lifting is all about technique and training the body to exert massive amounts of energy into one explosive lift. To say that someone can snatch 2-2.5x's their bodyweight for 1 rep is one thing. Saying someone could do that for 20+ reps on benchpress is ludacrous. With good coaching and a solid program some amazing poundages can be lifted overhead by oly lifters. Most people don't know that the human body is capable of creating that much power and explosion. But as far as benchpressing, bench is all about brute strength and has very little to do with technique, and our bodies simply are not capable of that much brute strength. its apples to oranges

Is it really? Consider where weightlifting records were 200 years ago as opposed to today? You think evolution is stagnant? Moreover, you honestly think technology isn't now outpacing evolution?

First off, everything is possible (quantum mechanics, yo). However, I'm not arguing semantics. I'm talking about the realm of plausability. Just because it hasn't been done (yet, as far as we know...) doesn't mean it won't be.

Though I will say 20 reps is very, very far fetched (@585), I've seen vids though of people doing 405 for 20. That's already more than 2/3 the amount we're talking about.
 
sardonicone said:
Is it really? Consider where weightlifting records were 200 years ago as opposed to today? You think evolution is stagnant? Moreover, you honestly think technology isn't now outpacing evolution?

First off, everything is possible (quantum mechanics, yo). However, I'm not arguing semantics. I'm talking about the realm of plausability. Just because it hasn't been done (yet, as far as we know...) doesn't mean it won't be.

Though I will say 20 reps is very, very far fetched (@585), I've seen vids though of people doing 405 for 20. That's already more than 2/3 the amount we're talking about.

evolution takes thousands of years to change a species to any real extent, not 200 years. it just sounds to me like you dont really have any idea how much weight 585lbs is and the amount strength it takes to move it. I have been involved in powerlifting for years and i have seen the strongest of the strongest lift. People who have taken every aas in existence and trained for years on end. They are lucky to move that off their chest once. At most ive seen someone bench 585 for 4 or 5 reps, and those are the TOP benchpressers in the world. it will not happen dude, i dont care how much scientific mumbo jumbo you want to try and throw at it.

btw 585 for 20 reps in a 1rm calculator puts your max bench at over well over 1000lbs, the highest raw bench ever is 715. if you think anyone will ever add 300lbs to that you're out of your mind.
 
DaveTSI said:
no, no its not possible, no one can or will ever be able to rep a legit 585lbs 20+ times. EVER. i dont care if they are 500lbs. lean and on a cycle of halo, tren, anadrol, and cheque drops with a million dollar prize if they can do it, the human body is not capable of doing that period.

ryan kennelly is bar none the strongest bench presser in the world right now, raw and shirted. He can get 405 for 20 or so reps at 330+lbs. Your telling me that someone could add 180lbs on top of that and do it? please
I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike
 
txmike said:
I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike

its 715
 
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I went back a few pages to see what I may be missing, but it's just odd for me to read those stats when I laste heard the max bench was over 900#. When I was 46 I had a trainer. When we got to bench, I couldn't progress to another set of 45# plates until I finished 15 reps with 2 spotters. I was pressing 5-45# plates on each side = 450# + the bar (and no AAS). At this gym this was impressive, but I was one of 2 other lifters who could do the same thing. By itself it meant nothing, because in a gym you're competing against yourself. The human body is capable of doing far more than what you have allowed yourself to imagine, because it is run by something greater than itself.
Somehow, someway anything is possible.

Mike

Bullshit

DaveTSI evolution takes thousands of years to change a species to any real extent, not 200 years. it just sounds to me like you dont really have any idea how much weight 585lbs is and the amount strength it takes to move it. I have been involved in powerlifting for years and i have seen the strongest of the strongest lift. People who have taken every aas in existence and trained for years on end. They are lucky to move that off their chest once. At most ive seen someone bench 585 for 4 or 5 reps, and those are the TOP benchpressers in the world. it will not happen dude, i dont care how much scientific mumbo jumbo you want to try and throw at it.

Dave is right on with this statement. Evolution if there is such a thing, is surely not in our lifetime.It is more like chemical and training evolution that has made these weights possible.
 
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