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I just got my GEAR in....

I too got mine in today. It defintley was good to get home and finally have it after 14 days. I was disappointed though once I opened it and there was no free bottle of anything like I was told there would be. Now I dont need free stuff I do fine buying my own but after hearing of all the cool stories of needto throwing in extra for being late and getting an email with this quote:
This e-mail is to inform you that we are currently waiting on new stock from our manufacturer of both FORGED Liver Support and GEAR. We are very sorry about the delay but our manufacturer is quite a bit late shipping these products to us. If your order includes either of these products we will ship them on Thursday of next week free of charge. All other products in your order will be shipped Thursday or Friday of this week free of charge.

We are sorry about any inconvenience this may have caused you, we promise to include a free gift in your package if you are one of the customers affected by our manufacturer’s delay. You can expect a free bottle of a stocked product in your package along with any Liver Support and GEAR that are shipping late. Thank you for your patience, please feel free to e-mail us with any questions.

Need To Build Muscle INC.


And then nothing! Bam empty only the gear! Maybe too many people were on back order to be able to hook up everyone but I had to be close to one of the first to order because I waited to see it come on and then I place my order. Now like I said I dont need free stuff because in the last couple of months these are the needto products i've purchased:

3 - epi strong
2 - Tren Tfo
3 - beastdrol
1 - Dieselbolan
1 - Helladrol
2 - Liver support
1 - Post Cycle
1- Gear
1 - Muscle Replenisher
And also signed up for needto's program on the source check.($300)

I've bought all of this and I have yet to try any of needto's products, I purchased all of this on the fact of believeing in guys reviews and stories of his customer service and being top notch in taking care of his customers. Like I said I dont need free stuff but dont tell me your going to do something and then don't. Just a little disappointed guys.
 
Needto is a kool dude .
I'm sure he's gotta be overwhelmed with all these orders
And i'm sure ther was no intentional harm
 
I too got mine in today. It defintley was good to get home and finally have it after 14 days. I was disappointed though once I opened it and there was no free bottle of anything like I was told there would be. Now I dont need free stuff I do fine buying my own but after hearing of all the cool stories of needto throwing in extra for being late and getting an email with this quote:
This e-mail is to inform you that we are currently waiting on new stock from our manufacturer of both FORGED Liver Support and GEAR. We are very sorry about the delay but our manufacturer is quite a bit late shipping these products to us. If your order includes either of these products we will ship them on Thursday of next week free of charge. All other products in your order will be shipped Thursday or Friday of this week free of charge.

We are sorry about any inconvenience this may have caused you, we promise to include a free gift in your package if you are one of the customers affected by our manufacturer’s delay. You can expect a free bottle of a stocked product in your package along with any Liver Support and GEAR that are shipping late. Thank you for your patience, please feel free to e-mail us with any questions.

Need To Build Muscle INC.


And then nothing! Bam empty only the gear! Maybe too many people were on back order to be able to hook up everyone but I had to be close to one of the first to order because I waited to see it come on and then I place my order. Now like I said I dont need free stuff because in the last couple of months these are the needto products i've purchased:

3 - epi strong
2 - Tren Tfo
3 - beastdrol
1 - Dieselbolan
1 - Helladrol
2 - Liver support
1 - Post Cycle
1- Gear
1 - Muscle Replenisher
And also signed up for needto's program on the source check.($300)

I've bought all of this and I have yet to try any of needto's products, I purchased all of this on the fact of believeing in guys reviews and stories of his customer service and being top notch in taking care of his customers. Like I said I dont need free stuff but dont tell me your going to do something and then don't. Just a little disappointed guys.

aaaahh bro. Is there a chance I just forgot in the rush of getting orders out. AAAH ask around because you are going to find that 189 people got the gear product and out of then You "might be" about the only one single person who slipped threw the cracks and did not get something free.


NOW rather then come to me and ask me about it you fly off the handle and make this post.


Well I cant say that I blame you. I was pissed too. I got shafted on the gear thing too. I was told it was going to have it on a date and then that date came and went. I was again told i was going to have it on another date and that date come and went.

One time I trusted in another person word and I got fucked for it. All my customers got screed right along with me too.

NOW it is not ever in my nature to sell a product that I do not have in my hands. I never ever do this. BUT the Manufacturer

1. lied and said yes its on its way.
2 promised I would have it.
3. Said you should deff start selling it now.

Now even then I would still always wait till I had the products in my hand but it went further.

4. Nelson ( and he has to take blame too) assured me that the guy was honest and when he says its on its way then its on its way. Then pushed me to get it in the store.

5. Some one else who I respect ver much (maybe he will come forward) also pushed and pushed that I should put it in the store.


SO there I was going against what I always do. Which I swear to god thats the last time I ever listen to ether party when it comes to putting a product in the store that I do not have in my hands to sell.



But this is all beside the point. I said I would give everyone who had to wait a free product and believe me bro it has nothing to do with whether or not it was cost effective for me to do so or not when it came to your pack....

NO it was just me (or my wife) forgetting one person as we were filling orders. Maybe just maybe there might be one other or even two. But trust me 99.99 of the people got exactly what I said they would and then some and that is how I role.


You got great service one every single NTBM order I am willing to bet. All except this last order I bet it came to you with lighting speed and no problems.

YOu had

1
one
one

Slight hold up with a order and I promised to give you a free product for it. I mist it. I am sorry I mist it bro truly I am.

Had you sent me a pm,or called me, or emailed me about this you know what I would have done? I bet I would have thrown a whole box full of free products together and sent it to you with my most sincere apologies with it.

Yes I understand for people its not always about free product. I know its about being acknowledged as some one who is important. Being treated with respect and treated like more then just a dollar bill. I know its about me letting you know I care about you as a customer and as a human being.

Its about me knowing you can very well take your business elsewhere. It about me being honest with you at all times threw out all of your dealings with me. And if you ask me no one and i mean no one has a higher customer service standard then me. I am re writing the book on it if you ask me.


NOW. One thing though. You and I have a buyer seller relationship I would like to think. I do hope we still do. Like any relationship communication is key on both ends.

I can not help. I can not acklowledge that I fucked up unless you relay to me that fact that I did. And the second that you do so you will find I would rush no I will not rest until I have fixed it.

So now that I know. Now that you have made it known to me that I fucked up. My friend how can I make it right is my questions to you? And are you willing to give me a chance to do so?

Thank you :heart:
 
aaaahh bro. Is there a chance I just forgot in the rush of getting orders out. AAAH ask around because you are going to find that 189 people got the gear product and out of then You "might be" about the only one single person who slipped threw the cracks and did not get something free.


NOW rather then come to me and ask me about it you fly off the handle and make this post.


Well I cant say that I blame you. I was pissed too. I got shafted on the gear thing too. I was told it was going to have it on a date and then that date came and went. I was again told i was going to have it on another date and that date come and went.

One time I trusted in another person word and I got fucked for it. All my customers got screed right along with me too.

NOW it is not ever in my nature to sell a product that I do not have in my hands. I never ever do this. BUT the Manufacturer

1. lied and said yes its on its way.
2 promised I would have it.
3. Said you should deff start selling it now.

Now even then I would still always wait till I had the products in my hand but it went further.

4. Nelson ( and he has to take blame too) assured me that the guy was honest and when he says its on its way then its on its way. Then pushed me to get it in the store.

5. Some one else who I respect ver much (maybe he will come forward) also pushed and pushed that I should put it in the store.


SO there I was going against what I always do. Which I swear to god thats the last time I ever listen to ether party when it comes to putting a product in the store that I do not have in my hands to sell.



But this is all beside the point. I said I would give everyone who had to wait a free product and believe me bro it has nothing to do with whether or not it was cost effective for me to do so or not when it came to your pack....

NO it was just me (or my wife) forgetting one person as we were filling orders. Maybe just maybe there might be one other or even two. But trust me 99.99 of the people got exactly what I said they would and then some and that is how I role.


You got great service one every single NTBM order I am willing to bet. All except this last order I bet it came to you with lighting speed and no problems.

YOu had

1
one
one

Slight hold up with a order and I promised to give you a free product for it. I mist it. I am sorry I mist it bro truly I am.

Had you sent me a pm,or called me, or emailed me about this you know what I would have done? I bet I would have thrown a whole box full of free products together and sent it to you with my most sincere apologies with it.

Yes I understand for people its not always about free product. I know its about being acknowledged as some one who is important. Being treated with respect and treated like more then just a dollar bill. I know its about me letting you know I care about you as a customer and as a human being.

Its about me knowing you can very well take your business elsewhere. It about me being honest with you at all times threw out all of your dealings with me. And if you ask me no one and i mean no one has a higher customer service standard then me. I am re writing the book on it if you ask me.


NOW. One thing though. You and I have a buyer seller relationship I would like to think. I do hope we still do. Like any relationship communication is key on both ends.

I can not help. I can not acklowledge that I fucked up unless you relay to me that fact that I did. And the second that you do so you will find I would rush no I will not rest until I have fixed it.

So now that I know. Now that you have made it known to me that I fucked up. My friend how can I make it right is my questions to you? And are you willing to give me a chance to do so?

Thank you :heart:


Hey Bro first off I see that you sent me a PM and I will respond to that also but I do want to respond to this so not only you but everyone knows what my stance is on this.

I do not believe I flew off the handle I just stated the facts and in that I think you can tell I was some what confused by this and looking for possible reasons that you might not have sent anything. One can only imagine how busy your are trying to keep every customer happy. One thing about me is I will be straight up honest good or bad. I gave you props a couple of days ago for just lightning service with the helladrol. I mean seriously that was just unbelievable delivery time. I give you big props for that so when you didnt do what you said on this issue I stated that also. I understand your issue with the gear and I even communicated that to you in a PM. I let you know I understood it was not your fault and when you got it in just send it. But at the same time I was definitley anxious to get the gear and then I really looked forward to the free gift just because I've heard time and time again how you make things right for making people wait. Which really is an awesome thing to do because I dont know of any company in any buisness that does things like that. So you see I was just disappointed when I didnt get to experience this for myself when I felt like I definitley deserved it due to the amount of products i've gotten and getting in your program out of believing in you. But I believe you hit it right on the head with your statement:

Yes I understand for people its not always about free product. I know its about being acknowledged as some one who is important. Being treated with respect and treated like more then just a dollar bill. I know its about me letting you know I care about you as a customer and as a human being

And that statement sums it all up for me. Like I said just disappointed Bro I didnt mean to try and slam you or anything like that I was just being honest about one of my experience's. trust me im not being petty and trying to get free stuff but it was more like in your statement and I just expected to get the same treatment as other customers have. You still have top notch service and im still a customer and I appreciate the advice you have given me so far in the program.
 
not many people would do what needto does bro, he will make things right one way or another. Hell what he does is unheard of in the business. Shit happens and most places wouldnt do shit about it but he does most times and he is a busy man so forgive him like you have for overlooking a few packages in bum rush to get them all out to keep that fast shipping up. MAD PROPS TO NEEDTO FOR ALL HE DOES.
 
not many people would do what needto does bro, he will make things right one way or another. Hell what he does is unheard of in the business. Shit happens and most places wouldnt do shit about it but he does most times and he is a busy man so forgive him like you have for overlooking a few packages in bum rush to get them all out to keep that fast shipping up. MAD PROPS TO NEEDTO FOR ALL HE DOES.


I agree with you there, most people wouldnt even care to respond to a customer's issue. He's definitley forgiven and shit I never said I was mad or upset or how dare him, JUST DISAPPOINTED thats it. It's all good, I will survive:D
 
I think need2 is stupid giving away free stuff like that, Ok i dont really mean he is stupid, but 1 week the email told many of us that we had to wait for it (GEAR), that is not a long time and hes offering free stuff because of that.. I ordered a tshirt in sweden and it took 7 weeks and several angry mails for it get here.

What im trying to say is, need2 has awesome customer service but not only that, hes probably too much of a great guy his for his companys best :)
 
We all have to apologize for the delay and N2 is just trying to make it right. I was told one thing and the manufacturers didn't deliver as promised. Very frustrating. But ultimately, it OUR responsiblity. No one wants to hear excuses. They just want their GEAR!:)

But all's well that ends well. It's ready, it's right and it's available. Now we just want everyone to be happy with the product, which I'm sure will be the case. And of course, any and all feedback is welcome!
 
We all have to apologize for the delay and N2 is just trying to make it right. I was told one thing and the manufacturers didn't deliver as promised. Very frustrating. But ultimately, it OUR responsiblity. No one wants to hear excuses. They just want their GEAR!:)

But all's well that ends well. It's ready, it's right and it's available. Now we just want everyone to be happy with the product, which I'm sure will be the case. And of course, any and all feedback is welcome!

Ya Things happen in this industry. At least people know they are dealing with a company that gives a damn. I love my customers because all of them are my friends too.
 
I hope anyone who reads this topic here understands that NeedTo will go through loops and holes for you and me, so with that said:
My advice to ANYONE who does not get their order proper, PLEASE PM NeedTo!! DON'T SLAP THE HAND THAT FEEDS YOU!!
 
I wanna get this next :o, getting the cinabun whey soon though and the need2sleep after reading so many comments about it (cinabun whey), specially since the whey I'm talking right costs 4x as much and tastes like ass and leaves an after taste that makes me horrid the time I'm about to take it.
 
only been using this two days so far, but i really like it! i'm on a pretty low, well no carb diet for 5 out of 7 each week, and i've noticed with the GEAR I don't get the blood sugar swing that powder bcaa's were causing.
 
I wanna get this next :o, getting the cinabun whey soon though and the need2sleep after reading so many comments about it (cinabun whey), specially since the whey I'm talking right costs 4x as much and tastes like ass and leaves an after taste that makes me horrid the time I'm about to take it.

Yup. Wheytobuildmuscle taste better cost less.
 
I didn't name who of who.... I just wanted to get this off my chest..

needto is not a angry man..

he doesn't do what in some cases I've found myself doing when i suspect someone is pulling a reverse scam, or claiming a shipment didn't arrive, or they get the product then claim that they didn't get it.. or will just challenge the charge on the credit card, screwing me out of the $$$ with no recourse for me other than to report the card stolen and having it closed, blacklisting his email and address and cc so that it becomes difficult for them to buy anything on the internet.. no he's not like that, not vindictive like some can be.

What he does do, and has done in the past and as he has built this business..

* free shipping (wow, that's about + - $2000 month lost profit)
* affiliate programs so that others can share in the profits
* answers all his emails
* answers the phone when you call
* has taken i think what?? 3 days off in the past 4 months
* bend over backwards to help anyone, with advice, suppliers and anything else you ask him for
* cutting edge products that are designed to work.. not make so much profit that the company owner can retire on in 1 yr

But that's just who he is, respected..

I'm not saying you did any of these things, i'm just pointing out a little of the other side of the business. He can speak for himself and he doesn't need me or anyone else to do that for him. Best bet is to just let this go away..
 
I was also one of the people who fell through the cracks and didn't get a product. But needto is muh buddeh and I sent him a pm and he made it right. Gave me a choice of beastdrol right off the batt but I have an injury so I got the skeletal balm instead. I have probably only made 4-5 orders with needto and this will be the second time I get a free product from him. The first time was my first order of protein bars he sent me an extra bag. Hes a real good bro and I stand behind any product he puts out or refers.
 
I was also one of the people who fell through the cracks and didn't get a product. But needto is muh buddeh and I sent him a pm and he made it right. Gave me a choice of beastdrol right off the batt but I have an injury so I got the skeletal balm instead. I have probably only made 4-5 orders with needto and this will be the second time I get a free product from him. The first time was my first order of protein bars he sent me an extra bag. Hes a real good bro and I stand behind any product he puts out or refers.

You don;t get service like that too many places.
 
I just wanted to put out an update since I did bring it up that needto didnt add in the extra stuff in my gear package. Well me and him worked it out in PM's and he is a man of his word and really HOOKED me up. Not only did he hook me up but it got to me within 3 days of him saying he would. I do believe I could have handled it differently which is my mistake but hind sight is 20/20 and I just put out an honest experience. But just like that one I will post this one on the fact he is a man of his word and takes care of his customers ant any expense which is totally unheard of in these days. But everyone here pretty much knows this and im now one that also can testify to it. Thanks Needto!
 
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