Nice Gdaddy, this cycle is awesome!
2% milk, gallon a day, will give me calories but not fat?
2% milk, gallon a day, will give me calories but not fat?
the bottled ones would work, but it may be cheaper to get the big store brand boxes, they are like 2 1/2 dozen.
Oh and i didnt know u were taking the PH tren......i have done trenadrol the PH and the strength gains were fucking AWESOME.....seriously better than the TBOL only cycle i did when i was 18. Tbol was better overall but the strength gains from trenadrol were sick.
either way, test and dbol is going to get going to get you sick lookin. You have a very solid base to add some mass. What are your stats again? I think we are around the same size, i have about 20 fat lbs more than you. yes fat pounds.
im at 5'9 220 ~15% bf im hoping this cycle will get me where i need to be, i wont be eating for mass thats for sure.
Oh hell yeah about the egg thing. Egg albumin has the highest conversion to human muscle tissue of any protein source out there. Back in college I packed on about 12 lean lbs in 1.5 months while cramming eggs down my throat.. That and a multivitamin and cheap weight-gainer shakes. I just made sure to get a dozen in me by the end of the day. I actually have before and after pics somewhere.
I am looking bigger and more shredded each day! New vein in my trap haha. A lot of people have already been asking what I am on or how my program is going. Im feeling awesome as well, just happy all the time.
Yea the feeling is amazing, I wanna fuck everything with an ass...
mmmmmmmmm test.mmmmmmmmm test.
I feel it within the 2nd week. Most people say it takes a few weeks till it actually hits you, but damn, I feel invincible in the 2nd week. Oh, and it gets better and better every week man.LOL seriously its amazing, idk if its the test yet since its only been 2 weeks.

I feel it within the 2nd week. Most people say it takes a few weeks till it actually hits you, but damn, I feel invincible in the 2nd week. Oh, and it gets better and better every week man.![]()



ur tricep workout looks solid......try some fascia stretching! its a minute of being in world of shit, but it will make them grow like weeds.
the sternum....idky but maybe because thats alot of weight for your frame.....
i just got lots of gear thrown at me.....for free, again. DAMN i have so much test- 20ml extra cyp. and tren ace.....im stoked.
Anyone see anything that I should work on more? Like traps, triceps, legs?
I havent been hiting my triceps as hard because skullcrushers kill my elbows and weighted dips (2 45lb plates) make my sternum want to pop.
Any recommendations for tricep mass? My routine now is reverse grip bench, tricep pulldowns, dips
Problem with dips is I can have 2 45lb plates hanging from me and do 6, could do more but my sternum feels like its going to pop. Anyone know why?
Dude, strict close grip bench presses are the shit for tricep mass! Don't go to close though as a lot of people do, it's not good for the shoulders or wrists. Go about 10-12 inches apart as heavy as you can for 8-10 strict reps. Sick pumps
Ill def do the stretching! Thx bro
The sternum thing i think its just too much weight and not perfect form. I stick out too much
free gear? dude thats awesome when you startin?
Fuck I love hearing this shit!!!! Im gonna feel better?!?!
Hahaha cant wait bros. Here are some updated pics taken just now
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Those pics look good man. Ideally for me would be about 20 more pounds with your bodyfat % and your golden. I'm at 215 now and can alomst see my abs. I think my Test is severly underdosed due to not having any water retention in my sixth week, but my diet has been clean and I'm 15 pounds so I don't care if it's underdosed at this point, lol. Could be the Var too which is helping with that.
Your lookin solid man, keep it up and keep that diet clean with high cals. Good luck!
haha when it comes....u will know. I cant wait myself.

YES, close grip and rope pull downs I feel really put it on for the tries.................
holy fuck..looking good bro... looking wicked actually haha
Have no ide
a if I'm using this thread thing right. New to the sight. Would deca, testosterona, and sust be a good cycle? what doses per day/week. Are anti estrogens illegal? Semi new to this as if you can't tell.
Diet has been clean! Been eating clean and with whey everyday so I am getting lots of protein.
Im always having eggs, oats, whey shakes, sweet potatoes, tuna, cottage cheese, PB, olive oil and milk!
Im about to take more pics as I just started week 4
Thanks for staying in the log guys it keeps me motivated
Bingo! Diet is the key. You are doing great so far and are only 1/3 of the way there! Hold onto your horses man, you're gonna be pretty suprised these next couple of weeksDiet has been clean! Been eating clean and with whey everyday so I am getting lots of protein.
Im always having eggs, oats, whey shakes, sweet potatoes, tuna, cottage cheese, PB, olive oil and milk!
Im about to take more pics as I just started week 4
Thanks for staying in the log guys it keeps me motivated

#1 ..wide grip chinups always worked well for my lats...
#2.. doing around 10-14 reps has always worked for gettin my strength up for any muscle part.. and endurance and stamina...
but thats me!
Try to stay away from the alcohol. I forgot exactly what it does, but it fucks things up. Plus you gotta watch your liver brother.
For wide lats, you should also do a nice, wide grip on the lat pulldown machine.
And don't worry so much about the fat. I know it's hard for you, trust me, I was in your shoes too and was petrified of gaining any fat. But right now, you need to focus only on gaining quality muscle. When you're ready to cut, the fat will shred off in a few weeks. I guarantee it. Right now, keep building SIZE!
are you planning on staying below 3000 cals. can you gain with that? says on your profile you want fighting advice what style? best workouts for MMA is high explosive moves like jerks, cleans and snatchs CARDIO good luck! how are your macros ? i would eat meals 4and 5 together still not enough try for 750-1000 calories a meal! 5 times a day more protein!

MORE PROTEIN is what just screamed out at me... more calories too... you're doing plenty of test plenty of tren and the dbol will get you gaining FAST -IF- you have enough fuel to run on... so MORE CALORIES AND LOTS MORE PROTEIN![]()
I might get bashed for this. A lot of guys say 1-1.5 per grams per pound is good. But when I was bulking, I was probably taking around 400 grams of protein a day in. Grew like a weed. I am cutting now and take in at least 300 grams of protein and I am still growing (but burning fat too).Im up to 195 in clothes. 20 lbs in 4 weeks. Is 280g of protein every day enough?
damn my fiance left me so i lost the camera and pics, ill get some enw ones tmr
im at 190, so up 17 lbs so far. some strength stats i did tonight and in the last couple days
deadlift - 245 x 11, 275 x 9, 315 x 3
bench - 245 x 9
squat - 275 x 8
db military - 85 x 8
hanging leg raises - 8lb dumbell in between my feet x 13
my abs have gotten bigger but im staying lean. i hope i break 200 on this cycle, im gonna eat like a madman these last 6 weeks.






it looked like yo uwere pumped in the pictures!.. bro do you do any wide grip chin ups?
lat pullsdown..wide grip...thats what works for me.. wide grip is amazing bro.. ill try throwing a pic up of my lats..its all from wide grip pullups.. and weighting wide grip..you just gotta kill yourself doing it haha
You do weighted wide grip chin ups? Nice
Yea post that pic, I know I need to statr doing wide grip stuff, thats my weakest area, wide lats. back is just born to be small LOL
Looking great bro! Feels good doesn't it? Just in time for summer too.
your looking fucking amazing bro..keep it up!
my bets on you.. and brandonp
lol how did u get the pics of urself in the gym without the shirt and NOONE in the gym?!?!?!? lma0o

OK quick update
Did legs today, or tried anyway. Started with 135x15 deep squats, 225 x 10, 255 x 7, and 275 x 2.
I could barely walk after doing this because my lower back pump was insane, not good though.
Went over to leg press and the angle I was at was weird, my back was resting on the angle to far back so when i was doing reps and my legs would come towards me my feet would start to come off the platform and i was pressing with my toes. I only had 270lbs on to get warmed up but had to stop because the lower left back muscle started BURNING. IDk why? my lower back pumps are just so bad it hurts, when doing legs especially.
I thought i torn something, i swear to god it hurt so bad. It turned all red after I had stopped. My dads a chiro he already said Im fine, but i had ot stop my workout after 4 sets of squats and 1 set of leg press. I did 3 quick sets of hanging leg raises and left.
Anything I can do to avoid the blower back pump/oain i get during workouts? They are halting me from gains. It needs to stop!!! Next time im in the gym doing legs I know im gonna injure myself. Maybe go lighter with legs just to be careful?

Same here brother. I usually just sit down after a heavy squat set and try to sit in a way that my back chills out. My lower back always hurts from squats. I thought I was doing it the wrong way, but I got some training from an IFBB pro and no, I was doing it right.Dude, Everytime I do legs I have the same exact problem! My lower right back almost into my hipbone throbs and is painful. The pain goes away after the gym so I just accept the fact that it will hurt when I'm doin legs. I always squats, leg presses, lunges, and extensions for Quads and it has paid off big time. My legs have gotten so much bigger, I have gained more weight, and I believe doing heavy legs makes your whole body stronger. Stretch alot and Love the pain!
I used to make that my excuse for not working legs so hard but the truth is your not bodybuilding if your not hittin your legs hard. No excuses for legs just do it baby!![]()
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