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No PCT - Continuous 2 week on/off cycling

I think you have the all the answers that you need and I hope you clearly see how poor of an idea this is... I understand what you are trying and/or wanting to do here but it is definitely not anything you should try to do...
 
Thanks for the replies, gentlemen. What I'm really after is a blast & cruise program that doesn't do permanent damage. I want to have my cake and eat it too!

Short cycles with short esters are the way to go, but we can't deny that long cycles are more convenient...

yeah bro we are both old on here now.. some guys stick around but most move on.. this thing isn't for everyone.

when you say you won't do damage do you mean to your HPTA? or do you mean to your lipids?

with the HPTA this set up you would still send your LH to 0 anyway.. think about why. even a small amount of the prop left in your system would still suppress you. so even though during the end of that 2 weeks off you don't have much of any prop left to make a difference with you physically but you have ample amounts to STILL suppress you. see what the problem is? so if you are gonna suppress yourself might as well run it where it would benefit you

as far as lipids because you will never have a large amount in your system it will probably help you out but not sure how the yo-yo effects would have your body react .. it just sounds like here you running a short ester and injecting not enough.. i'm sure a lot of newbs out there do this anyway by their own fault. but again if you run it the right way and run the support supps etc lipids isn't gonna be a problem in most cases. so again might as well run it the right way
 
Well.. I think with that plan you are bordering the line of not becoming completely shut down, while at the same time.. never becoming fully recovered. If you do this for an extended period of time.. it will defeat the entire purpose.. because you will reach the point of total shut down.
 
I think you should try it with bloodwork at a few crucial times during this science experiment. For example around week 8 near the end of the 2 week "off" period have a full panel run to see what your looking at. Same with the end of say week 16. (2 weeks past last prop shot) have blood drawn again. Either way after the 14 weeks run a serious pct and you will be fine. Personally , this is how new ideas are discovered and created. Through trial and error. I dont see you doing any long term harm this way . Just ensure to have bloodwork drawn to follow your progress and run a full pct at the end like I said.
Hope I don't get flamed, but its an interesting concept even if it doesn't work.
 
I had to laugh at this one.

The 2 week on, 2 week off concept was a rip off by Bill Roberts of my short cycle method. It's amazing how these things build credence and after a while are regarded as viable. it's complete nonsense. You can not recover in two weeks. Using short esters will not matter.

This method will just continually shut you down, plus it will yo yo blood levels plus the gains will be marginal. It's the worst possible choice in every way.
 
^^^ its like the dbol bridge idea. doesn't matter how low a dose you use its still gonna suppress.. there is no fooling the body, its smarter than people think

if you are gonna bridge with a hormone might as well just throw in the towel and just stay on and call it what it is and stop trying to fool the body

there just 'aint as they say in the south' any trick around it, if there was then life would be simple
 
dbol at a low dose, taken first thing in the morning, does not suppress you.

suppression means your LH drops.. it doesn't have anything to do with your test levels.

the reason people believe it doesn't 'suppress' is because they only look at the T levels when bloods are done. in those that did correct bloodwork they saw their LH levels tank. so yes low dose dbol most certainley suppresses.

yes taking dbol with boost your T levels or atleast keep them mainline.. so people assume that means they aren't 'suppressed' .. this is where guys get fooled into believing the fantasy

hope that makes sense cause a lot of guys don't understand what suppression means
 
basically I will sum it up like this... you could run a low amount of testosterone.. a HRT amount lets say 150mg a week or so.. your T levels would stay in range and your LH would go down obviously.. so are they suppressed in this instance? the answer is absolutely YES they are.. no different than running low dose dbol.. if you upped the dbol to lets say 50 or 75mg a day your T levels would shoot through the roof, if you kept them low at 10mg a day it would stay at a baseline number. THIS is where the confusion stems
 
basically I will sum it up like this... you could run a low amount of testosterone.. a HRT amount lets say 150mg a week or so.. your T levels would stay in range and your LH would go down obviously.. so are they suppressed in this instance? the answer is absolutely YES they are.. no different than running low dose dbol.. if you upped the dbol to lets say 50 or 75mg a day your T levels would shoot through the roof, if you kept them low at 10mg a day it would stay at a baseline number. THIS is where the confusion stems

I do almost this exact same thing except at 125mg/wk for HRT. My LH and FSH is tanked but my T levels are at the top end of normal.
 
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