No PCT - Continuous 2 week on/off cycling

[Nelson Montana]

dbol at a low dose, taken first thing in the morning, does not suppress you.

That's a cross between internet guru bullshit and wishful thinking. It sure as hell will.

 

[Nelson Montana]

FONZ didn't come up with anything novel really, he just pushed primo and stood in the mirror flexing his abs.

ULTER was a champion of the morning dbol bridge. He knew his stuff. Doesn't mean that it isn't suppressive - I think that has yet to be determined.

If you're trying to recover then the AM dbol is probably a bad idea. If you're bridging, it's probably ok.

Testimonials of the dbol used during PCT etc are widely available on this board:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/p...py/my-pct-dbol-after-coulpe-years-498517.html

More hilarity. These guys were just stealing theories from other idiots. Which makes them doubly full of shit.

 

[stevesmi]

i wasn't around back in those days when those guys were here but from the pics I have seen of Ulter I doubt I would ever take his advice on anything short of maybe whiffleboard or ping pong

 

[Discreet User]

I think you should try it with bloodwork at a few crucial times during this science experiment. For example around week 8 near the end of the 2 week "off" period have a full panel run to see what your looking at. Same with the end of say week 16. (2 weeks past last prop shot) have blood drawn again. Either way after the 14 weeks run a serious pct and you will be fine. Personally , this is how new ideas are discovered and created. Through trial and error. I dont see you doing any long term harm this way . Just ensure to have bloodwork drawn to follow your progress and run a full pct at the end like I said.
Hope I don't get flamed, but its an interesting concept even if it doesn't work.

Thanks, rustilldown.
I agree.
Safe, responsible, experimentation can lead to new discoveries.

 

[Discreet User]

I'm not sure what the physical repercussions would be but I'm sure I don't want any part of the mental ups and downs that kind of cycling would cause

That's an interesting point, zwhit.
I've considered this for months and have reached the opposite conclusion.
I don't believe there would be much of a "down," because you're only off for 14-days at a time.

Keep in mind ancillaries, such as aromasin & HCG will be used as well.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

That's an interesting point, zwhit.
I've considered this for months and have reached the opposite conclusion.
I don't believe there would be much of a "down," because you're only off for 14-days at a time.

Keep in mind ancillaries, such as aromasin & HCG will be used as well.

its still going go be a roller coaster on your endocrine system. whether you literally "feel" it or not. if it were a great idea believe me....people would be doing it already. unless you can get bloods done every few weeks you wont be able to tell. to many guys base things they do on how they feel. when in reality they dont know.what is.going on inside their body which can be way worse.

 

[Discreet User]

Gentlemen,
It appears the consensus is that LH will not rebound much within the two-week "off period."

Thoughts on the effect of Human Menopausal Gonadotropin (HMG) [(not HCG)] on LH under these circumstances?

 

[Discreet User]

its still going go be a roller coaster on your endocrine system. whether you literally "feel" it or not. if it were a great idea believe me....people would be doing it already. unless you can get bloods done every few weeks you wont be able to tell. to many guys base things they do on how they feel. when in reality they dont know.what is.going on inside their body which can be way worse.

Do you think bloods once per month would be sufficient?
I once ran tests monthly for a 6-month period.
It was very interesting observing the changes pre, during, and post cycle.
I'm talking full labs down to LH, DHT, TSH, IGF-1, you name it...

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Do you think bloods once per month would be sufficient?
I once ran tests monthly for a 6-month period.
It was very interesting observing the changes pre, during, and post cycle.
I'm talking full labs down to LH, DHT, TSH, IGF-1, you name it...

Once a month yes, as long as you hit different times ie: end of two weeks off, on, ect.

TSH is a useless test BTW. it does not show a true representation of thyroid function. If you want to do that you must get free T3, T4, reverse T3 and a few others. I live with a thyroid guru...that is one area I know well.

You will also have a roller coaster on your lipids. OR...they may not roller coaster and just keep going into the no no zone. Your RBC, hematocrit, hemoglobin is likely not to rebound in a two week off period and just keep rising. This is very bad. Stressful to the heart ect...
All in all this whole thing is a very bad idea. Not trying to sound like a dick, just expressing my opinion based on how I see my own blood work change.

Why not use no ester injectables and orals and do 4 week cycles with 6 week breaks between? One of our old brothers who is no longer a member used to do 3 week blasts of test and tren suspension. He was unbelievably massive. BUT...he had the genetics and diet to go with that too.

 

[stevesmi]

Gentlemen,
It appears the consensus is that LH will not rebound much within the two-week "off period."

Thoughts on the effect of Human Menopausal Gonadotropin (HMG) [(not HCG)] on LH under these circumstances?

it would wreck your LH and boost your total test. HMG also mimics LH the same was hcg does