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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/a...n-site-pain-so-i-will-read-thread-629311.html
He prob stole most of it from me ^^^^
Bias opinions, False sense of security.
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He prob stole most of it from me ^^^^
needtogetaas
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Advertising? Or " advising on what they like and feel is best? There is a huge difference.
Now I do not just advice my brand btw. I OWN A SUPPLEMENT RETAIL STORE!!!!!!!!!!!! I also own a percent of many other companies in this industry too. So I just say what I know to be best when I know its the best.
I think Alpha t2 by pes is a great product. I sell the creatine you are talking about and I think that is a good product too although I have to admit I know mines a much better bargain.
I like Powerchews creatine, Bcaa's, DAA ( O wait I kind of own part of this lol)
I think Havoc and a lot of products by RNP were awesome products like enviserate when mixed with clen is awesome.
I think Infinite Labs Juggernaut Is a awesome product take a look at all that it has in a serving. For before , during , after work outs pretty good shit.
I think Triazole from driven sports is a good product.
AI Sports Nutrition L-Carnitine L-Tartrate 300grams<---- great bargain and one of the only LcLT I have seen most is just L-carn
See We all have a few other brands we like and when we do we can get them from Orbitnutrition.com .
Look allow me to show you exactly why we love our sponsors and support them. You just said you love AST MIcronized creatine mono right?
OK good BB.com price 525 Grams 17.99 plus the shipping
That same product at orbit nutrition.com 17.95 OOOOOOOOOOOOO but what because we love and respect orbit here on elite I got a 7% off discount code "NEEDEF" end price at orbit 16.00
SO My friend now you just got owned to. ELite sponsors are better not just because they got great products, not just because if you want to play price games we kick fucking ass, no not just because of all that but because all of them support us, they support this site , they are one of us. I happen to be one so I know.
Next!@!!!!!
needtogetaas
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Isolation provides 26 grams of pure whey protein isolate in every 30 gram scoop.
Ok so after needto139 every day discount 15% off I have almost the exact same protein for 5.00 more AND I SHIPPED IT FOR FREE YOU SAVED THE GAS MONEY!!!!!!!!!
I have 25-30% off sales almost monthly so when I do guess what?? Same damn protein is cheaper with me. Come on man your not doing so great here lolololol
needtogetaas
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I personally don't mind the advertising here cause that is where I get good advice on new products but as a newbie on this forum I will say that I haven't gotten any response with much needed advice on the few posts I have made since being on here yet I see a whole lot of advertising stuff. Not putting anyone or anyone's products down cause again I like to hear about new stuff but I also like to get much needed advice sometimes from the guys with experience too
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bottom line is if you don't like the way the forum is run then the door is wide open. its funny that the only people bitching are either guys who are jealous of others success or guys that only been here a few weeks.
i guarantee you if you are genuinely new and stick around you will after a few months decide this is the best site with the best mods, and best staff. the leaders of the site make sure our sponsors are A+. like when you buy from ebay and you see someone with A+++ ratings, thats what our sponsors are and they want to keep their reputations.
this is the #1 site hands down.
i guarantee you if you are genuinely new and stick around you will after a few months decide this is the best site with the best mods, and best staff. the leaders of the site make sure our sponsors are A+. like when you buy from ebay and you see someone with A+++ ratings, thats what our sponsors are and they want to keep their reputations.
this is the #1 site hands down.
Look, I know what you mean. Sometimes, the excessive advertising and blatant politics get to me too and it sucks.
However, that said, I have really stepped back and looked at companies supported by this board and wondered if I'm using them because I like them the best for what they do, or if its the advertising getting to me, and I've come to the conclusion that I do enjoy their products for their effects.
But as political and in your face as these companies can be sometimes, to say that they dont give "real advice to real people" is ignorant. Needto and Radar both have tens of thousands of posts, ALL of which are directed at helping people......its what guys like them do. And that isnt counting PMs.
Now, with THAT said, the fact that you get banned for speaking your mind after you just took the time to create an entire thorough tutorial thread on pinning in every way you could possibly think of is bullshit. Sorry if that gets me in trouble, but bruvstar was helpful, not to mention useful, and the fact that he blew his lid shouldnt have warranted this.
However, that said, I have really stepped back and looked at companies supported by this board and wondered if I'm using them because I like them the best for what they do, or if its the advertising getting to me, and I've come to the conclusion that I do enjoy their products for their effects.
But as political and in your face as these companies can be sometimes, to say that they dont give "real advice to real people" is ignorant. Needto and Radar both have tens of thousands of posts, ALL of which are directed at helping people......its what guys like them do. And that isnt counting PMs.
Now, with THAT said, the fact that you get banned for speaking your mind after you just took the time to create an entire thorough tutorial thread on pinning in every way you could possibly think of is bullshit. Sorry if that gets me in trouble, but bruvstar was helpful, not to mention useful, and the fact that he blew his lid shouldnt have warranted this.
needtogetaas
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He was banned for "Lying" bro and making false accusations. He is a shill . So he was not banned for his opinion and I will thank you not to say that again because that is also a lie. Thanks good bro
needtogetaas
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OK please show me the threads you made? And you can send me a pm to ask for advice anytime you like my friend.
he didnt get banned for blowing his lid, he got banned for knocking on mods and vets, some of his bias opinions fine he can speak, but most of his posts and threads have been copy and pastes of the net everyone can see that, he is still a newb with much to learn, wich fair enuff we all do, his injection thread was a copy considering he was only doing his first cycle a few weeks ago! but o well everyones a winner right
needtogetaas
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Ya we kick ass.
dude was a blabbering idiot...probably another NTBM hater from another board jealous that Needto is making good legit products and trying to bash his products without proof. We see these all the time. everytime someone gets successful and recognized, the haters show up...
Lying about what? And I am honestly asking because obviously I can't see any of his posts anymore other than the quoted original.
Agreed on EF being the number 1 site, but honestly, that is not the bottom line. I love this place and so do most of the people here, and I don't see why if you want something changed you have to leave.
^Disclaimer: I'm not championing for Bruvstar, just a general comment.
No, not everyone's a winner. And he certainly was not. If it truly was copy and pasted from other places on the net, a compilation of all of those in one place is more useful for newer users than they are scattered around the web. The thread included pictures of himself with injection sites, videos on how to inject, etc. which contain his image and were clearly created by him. The credibility of the videos is subject to the truth of his statement on whether he has a class 4 medical license like he says he did or not.
Now I've read through the tutorial parts that I know something about and I've seen parts that I don't necessarily agree with or that I've found not to be useful, but regardless, the ease of access for newbies is undeniable.
At the very least, you can't deny that the guy was at least making an effort to be helpful and could potentially have grown to be a good contributing member.
I will say that he should have kept his mouth shut until he had been here a little longer and made some friends.........maybe the only reason i'm still around
Okay, thats why I phrased that post the way I did is because I was sure I didn't know the whole story.
Well deserved in that case.
badboybounce
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Well happy this is available,will order on payday an if anything i thank the cok sprocket as if im honest i didnt really think of ntbm products till i seen all the bros bigging them up
No, not everyone's a winner. And he certainly was not. If it truly was copy and pasted from other places on the net, a compilation of all of those in one place is more useful for newer users than they are scattered around the web. The thread included pictures of himself with injection sites, videos on how to inject, etc. which contain his image and were clearly created by him. The credibility of the videos is subject to the truth of his statement on whether he has a class 4 medical license like he says he did or not.
Now I've read through the tutorial parts that I know something about and I've seen parts that I don't necessarily agree with or that I've found not to be useful, but regardless, the ease of access for newbies is undeniable.
At the very least, you can't deny that the guy was at least making an effort to be helpful and could potentially have grown to be a good contributing member.
I will say that he should have kept his mouth shut until he had been here a little longer and made some friends.........maybe the only reason i'm still around
That's part of the schtick. These guys are getting clever. They come here and make a few posts, copy/paste some "helpful" threads, and after one month and 198 posts claim to be helpful, contributing, gurus...who by the way have only done one oral only cycle and not injected anything. Then they bash mods and sponsors, calling the products "rubbish" and saying mods don't give any "real advice", and claiming bros are coming to him for advice and help after sponsors products didn't work for them.
So, he says he's ordered 5 times from our sponsors. What? in the whole one month he's been registered here? Bullshit. And none of the products have worked for him. Not only that but several people have PM'd him saying that sponsors' products also did not work for them.
When given the chance to tell what products didn't work and get 100% of his money back, all he did was cry that he wasn't trying to offend anyone (no, not by calling the products rubbish, not at all) and then claim we were attacking him. Why didn't he tell us the products? Why didn't he post up order numbers? Hell he cried about hundreds of dollars wasted, why wouldn't he want his hundreds of dollars back?
Do you see how he wasn't such a great guy after all? That he was just a troll planted here to try to discredit our sponsors and staff? And when given the opportunity to prove his case he couldn't? Then he tried to garner more support by claiming he didn't intend any disrespect or offense, and to try to point out how he was now being attacked. Can you put it all together now since you obviously didn't read the entire thread, so I had to lay it all out for you in one post? If you had read the whole thread (particularly my posts) you would have seen all your concerns addressed before you even felt the need to voice them.
Oh and medical degree? His profile says he works in IT. Chances are the pics probably weren't him either. This is the internet, where it's easy to copy/paste and look like a guru.
I banned him, and he can stay banned.
"calling the products "rubbish" and saying mods don't give any "real advice", and claiming bros are coming to him for advice and help after sponsors products didn't work for them."
That right there was the funniest part of this whole thread.. I would LOVE to see those pm's lmao
That right there was the funniest part of this whole thread.. I would LOVE to see those pm's lmao
rich_89
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You would have to be an idiot to not notice the advertising here, however, I don't give a shit if the mods 'advertise', hell i don't give a damn who advertises as long as i continue to get the sound advice that i do from everyone.
I will also buy products from the sponsors (mainly needto) because they are tried and tested, and have glowing reputations, not just from reps, but from everyone. They seem to work for me, so that's another plus+! And seen as though they are no more expensive than other supplements, why wouldn't you?!?!
Fact is. . .Needto responds to non N2BM related pm's and queries. So that's good enough for me to think he is a stand up guy. And if he is promoting his range of products in the process, as long as he doesn't mislead or flog products to people who don't need them, which i am convinced he doesn't, then so be it! He's a businessman after all.
Also, Needto has recommended non n2bm products to me, as they were a better fit to my needs. Not the mark of someone 'flogging crap products'. . .
I will also buy products from the sponsors (mainly needto) because they are tried and tested, and have glowing reputations, not just from reps, but from everyone. They seem to work for me, so that's another plus+! And seen as though they are no more expensive than other supplements, why wouldn't you?!?!
Fact is. . .Needto responds to non N2BM related pm's and queries. So that's good enough for me to think he is a stand up guy. And if he is promoting his range of products in the process, as long as he doesn't mislead or flog products to people who don't need them, which i am convinced he doesn't, then so be it! He's a businessman after all.
Also, Needto has recommended non n2bm products to me, as they were a better fit to my needs. Not the mark of someone 'flogging crap products'. . .
needtogetaas
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He said he bought 5 products between N2BM and Mrsupps.com and non of them worked?? Bwahahahaha Then We called him out asked him to Prove he bought even 1 single product and I would give him a refund for it... Not only did he not prove a damn thing he also refused to even discus which product he thought did not work for him.. HE WAS A LYING SACK OF SHIT!!!
I cross checked his IP and email for orders from my store and mrsupps.com and he has never ordered from ether. He flat out told lies
needtogetaas
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This exact thread is why we have the rules we have. You should read them if you have not read them in a wile. We the leaders of this site have a lot to do and guess what 90% of us do not get paid ether.. we have to clean up all the spam, dig and investigate shit to uncover scammers so you people do not get scammed, A lot of times we play the go between for members and sponsors, we have to keep the site full of content, get all the newb questions every day, brake up arguments and fights between members on and on and fucking on the list goes. I am sorry but I do not have time to paper you or anyone who thinks the rules or the way the site has been run for 3 decades needs to be fucking changed for you.. YOUR NOT THAT SPECIAL And no one here is or ever will be. So the rules are simple. If You become more of a problem then you are worth we show you the door. Posting on this site is not a right !!!!!!! Dont ever forget that!!! It is a privilege to post here and each one of you signed a terms of service when you signed up for this site.
The site is owned by the owners and run by me and the mods. NOT YOU!!! Now we bend over for you guys. Did you know the mods right now are all pooling together Their own fucking resources so we can throw a contest for you members??????????? Did you know that last years comp I paid every single members entry fee for them and supplied all of them with everything from products to juice.. EVERYTHING and trained them too. What did I get from that?? HMMM wtf did I get?????
Ill tell you what I got. I got 1 little bitch who felt I did not give enough followed by a hoard of ungrateful mother fuckers. When the 5 grand, 2 grand, 1500 was handed out to the winners since I paid for there entry fee, every god damn product they took and every drug to. Did anyone of them say Hey needto let me pay ya back bro???????????? NO mother fuckers not a damn single cent given back... DO I BITCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No Ive said nothing because that is what leaders "real leaders" do.
They give of them selves daily for the people that they lead. Now we have given no one not one single person a reason to feel we do not have the members of this sites best interest at hand. I have hand picked every damn mod on the staff. Picked each one of them because they are like me. HONEST!! and able to put others in front of them selves.......
We do not owe you a fucking explanation for how we are running this site. You do not like it get the fuck out!!! That is the bottom line. Thank you
needtogetaas
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Now I will open this thread back up because I do not like to close a good thread. I will advise everyone not to even bother questioning what I have just said though. Unless of course you no longer wish to be a member of this community that is?
Needto I was going to reply and saw it was closed, then was going to message you but I didn't want to bug ya with it because there's lots more important stuff going on then this, but the previous post, paying the fees and providing the supps is just awesome. I haven't been here long but fairness is ample here and I like that as long as you don't come here acting like a dumbass. Keep up the good work and keep hand picking the mods. That ensures the job you've been doing will be continued.
Sherk
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Lol!!!
needtogetaas
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I love POON
You got nasty with me over a post that was not nasty, so now its my turn.
I hope you have youre right to vote as a U.S. citizen revoked because the guys in Washington think that their special and so they dont have to listen to you "bitch" about what you would like to see done in the country.
I have had all the mods (including you) help me out immensely, and I'm seriously greatful that all of you take time out of your day to do the shit that you do for everyone on this forum, even pricks like this guy. You are an amazing bunch of people that are dedicated to self sacrifice so that others can benefit, and that wont ever be taken away from you.
With that said, what the fuck in that post of mine warranted a response like that? I understand that I'm not special. I'm not special, and nobody is special. I don't give a shit why the site is run the way it is run, and I understand why it has to be run that way. I operate within the limits of the system you have set up, and I'm fine with that. If I wasn't, I would do exactly what you said and leave.
My point was that informing those in power that, in your opinion, there is a problem that needs fixing, and demanding change are not the same thing and should not be viewed the same way.
Now, to bring it full circle, I hope that next time you write a letter to your congressman telling him that something like SOPA or DSSA are horrible ideas, he responds with "If you dont like it, get the fuck out because youre not special".
All of that said, I love this place and have no qualms with how it is run. Just trying to comment on a point of contention that I've seen as a general theme.
If you want to look at it that way, I can definitely see your point. And really, none of us will ever know for sure. I did read the thread and I can see the clear cut benevolent offers from needto and several of the others mods to right the wrongs and he failed to make an adequate response. Clearly he was lying about that, almost without question (either he was lying or hes a complete idiot). It not only proved that he was lying, but that everyone was able and willing to help him out.
I'm not trying to make any enemies here. I was mistaken on several accounts, but it is kind of difficult to get a grasp on the situation when the first few posts of relevance to the thread are blacked out.......
RADAR
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We do not black out posts ,that is done by the members when someone gets enough red Karma or bombs then it's automatically blacked out!
You can still read whats being said ,all you have to do is hi light over the words.
C0LUMB0
Moderator
The mods here try to help as many people as they can ,Needto always looks after the members here and encourages his staff to do the same.
Sponsors and advertising help pay the bills on all forums and we are lucky to have top notch sponsors here that have great products ,great customer care customer and always go the extra mile for EF members .
I'm not sure if the OP of this thread was a total clown or just a troll ....but one thing is for sure - he was proven to be an out and out fucking liar.
Sponsors and advertising help pay the bills on all forums and we are lucky to have top notch sponsors here that have great products ,great customer care customer and always go the extra mile for EF members .
I'm not sure if the OP of this thread was a total clown or just a troll ....but one thing is for sure - he was proven to be an out and out fucking liar.
I didn't know why they were blacked out which is why I didn't accuse anyone of doing it. I also didn't know they were readable.......thank you for that........
lol liffalot you keepin bumpin a dead thread the guys banned let it be, no offence bro but i dont see why you keep trying to get explanations and facts the guy was a liar and needto asked you not to ask about it but you did, so i think thats why you got the response you did, but jus allow it be gone
needtogetaas
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Only one problem?? America is owned by the people and elite is owned by Gorge Spellwen... See your making the huge mistake of thinking elitefitness is a democracy bro.. No its a dictatorship friend and I am on the top of the hill for now. And Well I am on top we will have ORDER!!! and respect!!!! and if anyone really really wants to have something changed or voice their thoughts they do it with a pvt msg...Not try and rally a protest in the public forums. Sorry Ill squash that shit quicker then the Idea came to you.
And you Signed a Terms of service agreement when you came to this forum that I bet you did not even bother to read. Ill give you the short version of that agreements ... It says we can terminate your account any time we please. Its says we owne the site, all the content in it, every single account made on it down to the last karma point...
SO huge fucking difference bro... America is a democracy Elite is not!!! That is the only option.. Now you deliberately Came back talking shit after I said not to..
So now like I said to you in the pm.. Things that happen in public can have a lasting impact. So now If I do not ban your ass for the back talk it may send a message to others I will allow this ? Which I damn well will not allow!!!
WALK AWAY THIS TIME!!!! and feel lucky I did not send you packing.
I agree suggestions and issues should always be dealt with in a pm. There's no reason to blast anyone or the forum in general out in front of everyone.
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bluetoolpaul
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If u get banned can u still order ntbm products? I'd be seriously upset if I couldn't.
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bluetoolpaul
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Of course I probably wouldn't try and get into an arguement w/ needto or mods in a thread....
But I'm going to try, so I can keep this thread going....
I'm sick of coming on this site and getting damned good advice from needto an the mods on here. I'm tired of hearing about products that help me achieve my fitness goals. I'm tired of buying these products or other products recommended , usually w/ a discount code, when I could go to gnc, buy shit and pay way too much $$$.
I suggest we make changes to the site since elite is lucky to have my presence. First, I suggest more pictures of kittens. Also, why not have advertising of muscle tech products? I don't get to see enough of those in magazines. Last but not least, anybody that's been a member for a month or two should have full ability to not only criticize what's going on on the site, but should be able to change it at will, since thy would obviously know what's best.
I hope this helped. If not, I promise not to be drunk before my next post.....
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But I'm going to try, so I can keep this thread going....
I'm sick of coming on this site and getting damned good advice from needto an the mods on here. I'm tired of hearing about products that help me achieve my fitness goals. I'm tired of buying these products or other products recommended , usually w/ a discount code, when I could go to gnc, buy shit and pay way too much $$$.
I suggest we make changes to the site since elite is lucky to have my presence. First, I suggest more pictures of kittens. Also, why not have advertising of muscle tech products? I don't get to see enough of those in magazines. Last but not least, anybody that's been a member for a month or two should have full ability to not only criticize what's going on on the site, but should be able to change it at will, since thy would obviously know what's best.
I hope this helped. If not, I promise not to be drunk before my next post.....
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It definitely helped.........helped your karma and helped inflate some egos.
bluetoolpaul
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It also helped give me something to do while I was stuck watching a chic flick w/ my wife. Beer only helps so much.
bluetoolpaul
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Haha, thx bro. I thank god for elite droid app bc right now I'm having'family nite' watching 'confessions of a teenage drama queen' w/ the wife and daughter.
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gatemoney
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I am so upset that I got in on this post a little late, but I am still going to take some time and write some things here because I believe that many people will read this and they need to hear what I am about to say...
The audacity of this thread to have even started completely blows me away... The person that started this thread (just check the keywords) has an incredible lack of knowledge, respect and intelligence... There are several reasons that I say this... FIRST AND FOREMOST, the amount of information and help that is provided by so many of us on here is priceless... We come on here first to HELP and EDUCATE people on how to STAY SAFE... Before you make a statement about people being on here promoting products, realize and see, that we are on here HELPING people to run a proper cycle, diet properly, learn how to train, etc.... This is information people pay A LOT OF MONEY for... Secondly, this is information that SAVES PEOPLES LIVES... Do you understand, that if not for people like NeedTo, Radar and the entire NTBM team, there would be A LOT of people out there that get severely hurt from not running a proper cycle... All it takes is ONE BAD CYCLE to cause PERMANENT DAMAGE... The littlest, stupidest mistake, could hurt you for life... However, you have a guy like NeedTo, who actually CARES about the well-being of others... Yes, he does have his own company, and yes, we do promote NTBM products, but if you cannot see and realize, that he what we are promoting are TOP OF THE LINE, then you have no common sense WHATSOEVER... Do you think a guy, with that much knowledge, that takes his own time to help so many, and to build a team, that can also help everyone, would promote a half a$$ed product... I DON'T THINK SO... All of us that promote for NTBM believe in what we are doing... Do you think we are getting paid millions to come on here and help and promote???? NO, we do it because WE LOVE THIS and WE CARE... We believe in what we promote and we believe in NeedTo... We call ourselves a family... You know why, because WE F'NG ARE ONE! We don't come on here to waste peoples time or not have people's best interest at heart... We are here because we want people to feel good and be safe... So before you have any f'd up assumptions, take the time to see all the good we are doing and all the help we provide... Most people on the forums are beyond appreciative but there's always one or two f'ng idiots, like the d-bag that started this thread, that have something stupid to say... Just remember, all of us at NTBM care about you and are here to help you... I know most are extremely appreciative and we love what we do... We will continue to be here to help everyone... Sorry for the long post, but I want everyone to know the facts... Anyone that ever needs anything can always pm me and if for some reason I can't help, I know that I can always point you in the right direction... I'm always here to help...
The audacity of this thread to have even started completely blows me away... The person that started this thread (just check the keywords) has an incredible lack of knowledge, respect and intelligence... There are several reasons that I say this... FIRST AND FOREMOST, the amount of information and help that is provided by so many of us on here is priceless... We come on here first to HELP and EDUCATE people on how to STAY SAFE... Before you make a statement about people being on here promoting products, realize and see, that we are on here HELPING people to run a proper cycle, diet properly, learn how to train, etc.... This is information people pay A LOT OF MONEY for... Secondly, this is information that SAVES PEOPLES LIVES... Do you understand, that if not for people like NeedTo, Radar and the entire NTBM team, there would be A LOT of people out there that get severely hurt from not running a proper cycle... All it takes is ONE BAD CYCLE to cause PERMANENT DAMAGE... The littlest, stupidest mistake, could hurt you for life... However, you have a guy like NeedTo, who actually CARES about the well-being of others... Yes, he does have his own company, and yes, we do promote NTBM products, but if you cannot see and realize, that he what we are promoting are TOP OF THE LINE, then you have no common sense WHATSOEVER... Do you think a guy, with that much knowledge, that takes his own time to help so many, and to build a team, that can also help everyone, would promote a half a$$ed product... I DON'T THINK SO... All of us that promote for NTBM believe in what we are doing... Do you think we are getting paid millions to come on here and help and promote???? NO, we do it because WE LOVE THIS and WE CARE... We believe in what we promote and we believe in NeedTo... We call ourselves a family... You know why, because WE F'NG ARE ONE! We don't come on here to waste peoples time or not have people's best interest at heart... We are here because we want people to feel good and be safe... So before you have any f'd up assumptions, take the time to see all the good we are doing and all the help we provide... Most people on the forums are beyond appreciative but there's always one or two f'ng idiots, like the d-bag that started this thread, that have something stupid to say... Just remember, all of us at NTBM care about you and are here to help you... I know most are extremely appreciative and we love what we do... We will continue to be here to help everyone... Sorry for the long post, but I want everyone to know the facts... Anyone that ever needs anything can always pm me and if for some reason I can't help, I know that I can always point you in the right direction... I'm always here to help...
bluetoolpaul
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Amen brother. Seriously, the shit we learn for free on here is nuts. This is a community, people here genuinely want to help other people. To take a knock at the advertising and say itssbs and you're being 'pushed' into buying is f'n ridiculous. Do people expect needto to live under a bridge w/ a laptop linked to someones wifi 24/7 so he can 'keep it real?'
The products speak for themselves. They work. I got my bro, friends at work, friends at the gym ordering them regularly now bc why???? Bc they f'n work!
You know why I don't wear a bra? Bc needto helped me out. Didn't 'push' any products just told me straight up , the most cost effective way to do it. However, now there are products that wrk better, are less harsh and cheaper I can use, and he happens to make them.
I'll always be a cust bc I trust this site and the team put together. Its not only cost effective for my needs but helps keep my favorite site going.
Now,with that being said, megan fox was still hot as shit at 18....
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He had his opinion and thats it. Really not sure why all seem to go on the defensive. He said it, its what he believes or believed and thats his right.
Not all Supps work for everyone. Some are better than others. Some credit supps for the right reasons, some credit supps for the wrong reasons.
Thats just life. Surely time to move on but getting all defensive to someone that is banned and can not respond is surely a waste of time and effort?
My opinion is the same as the first reply too many believe that AAS and Supps are magical muscle in an amp or pill when there is far more needed no matter how good the certain chemical is
Wrongun!
Not all Supps work for everyone. Some are better than others. Some credit supps for the right reasons, some credit supps for the wrong reasons.
Thats just life. Surely time to move on but getting all defensive to someone that is banned and can not respond is surely a waste of time and effort?
My opinion is the same as the first reply too many believe that AAS and Supps are magical muscle in an amp or pill when there is far more needed no matter how good the certain chemical is
Wrongun!
Stryker1992
Well-known member
Thank you and glad you see it as not being objective for the sake of it but AAS and SUPPS are all about cemical science and OPINIONS as no two users are the same which make it such an interesting sport and subject.
Excellent approach and hey maybe me and you have found common ground? They say miracles never happen but maybe just maybe lol
Thank you
Wrongun!
heresy!
RADAR
Well-known member
Do you have a problem? because i'm just itching to know!
Ntbm! Ftw!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lol of course not, I was just poking fun.
On second thought, I do have lots of problems........how much time do you have?
When I reccomend need2s supps I put my name behind the support for the product...the product and need2 name hasnt failed me yet
rambleJ535
New member
Hate to say it guys, but what about EP? I think we were all fooled by them. Thankfully they are gone and we have chemical need now. But that site when it first came on board was praised with high honors....
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bluetoolpaul
New member
Who's EP?
I think he means Extreme Peptides. They were a sponsor for a while on here. I think I remember hearing mixed reviews of them. But if they got dropped from here, there was a reason why.
Ive said it b4 but Ill say it again. Sponsors on here dont get away with shit. If they F our members over there will be consequences for them. Need2 looks out for us and any bad experiences with our sponsors can be handled through him. He'll get to the bottom of any late orders or non-receives.
All sponsors on here are legit.
bluetoolpaul
New member
Thx mr.o. I ordered from them once. no issues, but i remember hearing shit about them later. That's what's sweet about elite, you fuck peeps over, you disappear. I know chemicalneed is a lot more careful w/ packaging the products, I just haven't ordered from them yet...i need to, no pun intended....
I would like to thank all of the ntbm customers for speaking up and voicing your satifaction with ntbm products .You guys are what makes this board and the sponsors what they are, without u guys this place wouldnt not be a shell of what it is now .I see why needto takes such good care of guys..lots of class acts on here
needtogetaas
New member
Its not the opinion that I had a problem with at all. That is why I have a 100% money back policy. For the 1-2% of the people who 1 or two of my products do not work great for. This dude was flat out Lying though and when called out it was outed as the lair that he was.
Its one thing to give a pure honest review. Another to go telling lies bro. I think even you can understand this my friend.
needtogetaas
New member
Fuck ya!!! N2BM strong Baby .. Killing that shit!!!
Its not the opinion that I had a problem with at all. That is why I have a 100% money back policy. For the 1-2% of the people who 1 or two of my products do not work great for. This dude was flat out Lying though and when called out it was outed as the lair that he was.
Its one thing to give a pure honest review. Another to go telling lies bro. I think even you can understand this my friend.
No you misunderstood me. I said the discussion and use is opinion / experience as all users are different and so many other factors. As even with the optimum chemical compund if it be a SUPP or AAS work different with different people as other factors such as diet, tolerance, training, etc etc etc come into play which means what works for one does not work for others. This is where opinions come into it.
With regards the retail of these products then i agree if you offer a money back guarantee (and i am not commenting on this as not read the T&C's or how it is achieved etc) but in terms of marketing and sales then its a no brainer to buy from you as you are confident of the product you sell which you can not ask anymore from a retailer.
My point was a general one as even the original post IMHO was not directed at your products but a generalisation of some simply pushing products for financial reasons than experience of the product. I am not saying i agree with that i am saying the subject is certainly subjective and based on opinions.
Hope that explains it better and certainly not defending the original thread starter as he should be big enough and old enough to make his own mind up of what he wants to use and if he did not like what is being posted then simply do not log onto the site.
Wrongun!
It was blatantly directed at our sponsors and their products.
He also generalized that it was the job of every mod to sell/promote products instead of giving "real advice". That's untrue.
He's also trying to slyly promote himself as the source for real advice "lots of people have been emailing him" for his sage advice, ya know.
(what's his motivation there anyway?)He's full of shit on every account and occasion.
Hear you CEO, i read it differently i read it that he was sick of promotion of products on the forum and just names them all and being general that some don't work.
I am certainly not sticking up for him as have no idea of his motives not do i care my comments were with regards the general subject discussed and how promotion is expected as if not how do people find out about it.
If the original poster had such a problem then he should pass those posts by and should be big enough to take the info he wants and make his own mind up what if anything he wishes to use
Wrongun!
I am certainly not sticking up for him as have no idea of his motives not do i care my comments were with regards the general subject discussed and how promotion is expected as if not how do people find out about it.
If the original poster had such a problem then he should pass those posts by and should be big enough to take the info he wants and make his own mind up what if anything he wishes to use
Wrongun!
needtogetaas
New member
I would have taken his post a lot more serous has it not been accompanied by lies and false accusations. Once you do this all cred is gone.
Im not going to lie . Not to you anyone as you been here years man and you seen it all. The top sponsor has always been pushed. Not because anyones getting kick backs but more or less because the top sponsors "INVEST THE MOST" time, money, support to the site. Thus they get the biggest return on that investment.
Ive seen many sponsors come and go and Each oen of them save for maybe 1 or 2 has had good products to provide. At least under my rain they have.
However if the products are working for people Then its sound advice. If some one had a real argument against that they would get a refund. As for my refund policy bro and if there is any red tape with it?
read it your self bro We stand behind all of our products with our 100% money back return policy. Other companies talk a good talk but we walk the walk. If you are not happy no matter what return your product for a refund.
no restocking fees, no gimmicks , no fine print, nothing but send back the unused portion or even the empty bottle and get a full refund. Every single rep I have has my personal phone number and contact info in there sig too. Most refunds happen the very same day you ask for one. WHY NOT? I got nothing to fear with my products nothing. THEY WORK!!! Hands fucking down they work. They do exactly what I say they will do.
For the first time in a long time people are giving advice about a product line for no other reason then the fact that they work. and when some prick comes a long telling lies and stories saying they do not work./// Well I am sorry Im going to call his ass out because its written clear as day right there on my site what my refund policy is.
If my products did not work for you then I don't want your money. take the money back and find out what does work for you. and anyone who has been around a wile knows this about N2BM.
This man came to this thread to tell lies. PLan and simple that was his motivation. TO tell lies. Again the subject of the thread was fine with me and fine with the rest of the staff. It was the lying that got him banned.
I am not sticking up for him i simply said all are entitled to their views and not everything works on everyone as all are different. I even said that a money back offer is good but i can not comment without seeing the terms of trading and how that may be regulated as what determines if it works or not as so many other factors such as lifestyle determine benefits not just a supp. Even with the most powerful AAS it is no muscle in an amp, pill or vial.
Now it could be said your whole post was self promotion of product and it could also be said one would spend the most time on a site as it generates revenue. AS I HAVE SAID i have no knowledge of your products and read constantly that they are very well placed in the market and applaud the PR, marketing and customer service approach you have taken.
My personal view is that some (such as the post above) is simply an advertisement which is fine as thats PR but all are entitled to their opinion.
For the record again i have not used your products and from what i read they are some of the best in the market place i am not debating that i just find the reply to my post strange as that was never in debate from me
Wrongun!
Now it could be said your whole post was self promotion of product and it could also be said one would spend the most time on a site as it generates revenue. AS I HAVE SAID i have no knowledge of your products and read constantly that they are very well placed in the market and applaud the PR, marketing and customer service approach you have taken.
My personal view is that some (such as the post above) is simply an advertisement which is fine as thats PR but all are entitled to their opinion.
For the record again i have not used your products and from what i read they are some of the best in the market place i am not debating that i just find the reply to my post strange as that was never in debate from me
Wrongun!
DudleyDawson
New member
I read far more here on EF than I ever post due to my very novice knowledge of aas. Everything that I've seen from educated discussion and helpful insight, to suggestion of correct support products is outstanding.
How can anyone criticize a line of products that is produced by someone who has obviously done more anatomy and physiology homework than most lab techs, practices what he (they) preach, offers free usage of his hard work obtained knowledge to total strangers and whose line of products has a 100% money back guarantee?!?
And "First, this site needs more kittens." almost made me crap my pants more than any preworkout powder.
Keep up the great work!
How can anyone criticize a line of products that is produced by someone who has obviously done more anatomy and physiology homework than most lab techs, practices what he (they) preach, offers free usage of his hard work obtained knowledge to total strangers and whose line of products has a 100% money back guarantee?!?
And "First, this site needs more kittens." almost made me crap my pants more than any preworkout powder.
Keep up the great work!
its the best site on the web. i will read other AAS sites just for a good laugh but if i want to really study this is the place.
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