Your Max Bench, Dead, Squat ?

[sk*]

WTF ever, I give up, I hope someday you figure out why no one in this thread even remotely agrees with you.

Okay, these are the points I was trying to make:

1. First I got upset because some of the lifts mentioned appeared to be too high for their bodyweights. I compared this to my lifts and other people that I may have seen in the gym. No I don't stick my nose in everyones' lifts but if a 100pound guy puts on 3plates my head will turn that way.

2. I think people start at "some" level of strength and that level can vary. I believe with most people it won't vary by a great amount but there are certain exceptions that will come into the gym the first time and put on a lot of weight on the bar and not break a sweat.

3. Everyone can increase their lifts by following a simple program and a good diet and sleep regime. Everyone has the ability to set a new PR every week while "bulking" but their PR's wont be 100lbs more than the previous week MEANING if everything is done right most people will gain strength and size at the same rate. There are other small factors on how well you will recover from lifts, but I have yet to hear someone adding 20lbs on bench for the 6-8rep max every week straight for two years.

Can you please tell me which part you don't agree with? Oh yea and why I am so "ignorant, unenlightened, [and] whiny."

-sk

 

[sk*]

no, actually that was when i was a sophmore... now im 18 i weigh 172 and bench 365...

That's cool and all and hopefully soon i'll make a 365 bench too, but again it had nothing to do with the point I was trying to make ...

-sk

 

[spatts]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Just some fun stats to think about:

I definetely think I will reach and break every single one of those lifts but I won't be 140lbs when I do it.


-sk

Sk*, I really hope, and believe you can, break every single one of those records. You have an advantage over every single lifter on that list.

 

[crew9]

People get/got annoyed when you call bullshit on peoples lifts simply because you could not do it at the time or have not seen others do it.

 

[Numani]

Okay, these are the points I was trying to make:

1. First I got upset because some of the lifts mentioned appeared to be too high for their bodyweights. I compared this to my lifts and other people that I may have seen in the gym. No I don't stick my nose in everyones' lifts but if a 100pound guy puts on 3plates my head will turn that way.

2. I think people start at "some" level of strength and that level can vary. I believe with most people it won't vary by a great amount but there are certain exceptions that will come into the gym the first time and put on a lot of weight on the bar and not break a sweat.

3. Everyone can increase their lifts by following a simple program and a good diet and sleep regime. Everyone has the ability to set a new PR every week while "bulking" but their PR's wont be 100lbs more than the previous week MEANING if everything is done right most people will gain strength and size at the same rate. There are other small factors on how well you will recover from lifts, but I have yet to hear someone adding 20lbs on bench for the 6-8rep max every week straight for two years.

Can you please tell me which part you don't agree with? Oh yea and why I am so "ignorant, unenlightened, [and] whiny."

-sk

sk*

looking at the three points you made.

1) everyone is different. people at the same weights and height can have vastly different lifts. you have been training 2-3yrs(approx). what about the guys on this board who have done it three times as long as that. They may be the same weight. The could have dragged themselves up from a lot lower. They have the ability recruit muscle fibers to lift heavier weights than those individuals who are really beginners.
2) there are huge differences in starting strength. my kid bro was benching 110lbs for 15reps on day one at 16...i did 25lbs...no lie...did it worry me....no...he reached all my weights that took years inside 8months.
3) people gain at different rates. size and strength. its amazing the various levels of effort/diet/rest that some people can gain off and others standstill.

anyway. keep lifting hard

peace

 

[sk*]

Numani,

I was gonna answer your post but then read spatts' responce and now think i'm just being patronized. So whatever, you guys keep doing whatever works for you.

I'm out, later.

-sk

 

[spatts]

I said I knew you could do because you have an advantage over every lifter that I listed.

Since when is encouragement patronizing?

 

[sk*]

I said I knew you could do because you have an advantage over every lifter that I listed.

Since when is encouragement patronizing?

What's the advantage I have? Since you really don't know me or those lifters I would think it would be very hard for you to determine who has an advantage over who. So all I got out of your post is you being sarcastic for whatever reason.

Now I just have this sick feeling inside my stomach and honestly haven't been this hurt in a while.

I'm not gonna post on this thread again, you guys keep posting your lifts ...

-sk

 

[spatts]

Weight: 97, Bench Press: 231.5, 2.39 x body weight (BW)

Weight: 105, Bench Press: 286.6, 2.76 x BW

Weight: 114, Bench Press: 265.7, 2.32 x BW

Weight: 123 Bench Press: 303.1, 2.51 x BW

Weight: 132, Bench Press: 358.3, 2.71 x BW

Weight: 148, Bench Press: 353.8, 2.38 x BW

Weight: 165, Bench Press: 403.4, 2.51 x BW

Weight: 181, Bench Press: 402.3, 2.21 x BW

Weight: 198, Bench Press: 390.0, 1.97 x BW

SHW Bench Press 450.0 lbs, 1.79 x BW

What's the advantage I have? Since you really don't know me or those lifters I would think it would be very hard for you to determine who has an advantage over who. -sk

Actually I do know all those lifters, and have even competed with some.

The distinct advantage you have is that all those lifts were performed by women.

 

[IronLion]

I was just giving my opinion on the matter. Cheating on deads is easy, all you have to do is not keep proper form.

Maybe I am just weak, but I am 6'3 230lbs+ with 4pack showing very nicely and kinda faded 6pack and I can't attempt some of those squats. Oh did I mention I have 28+inch quads?

-sk

Like your "faded 6-pack" makes any fucking difference in how much you squat. Like your little quads have anything to do with how much you squat. Go read the squat sticky if you still think your lbm/quad circumference has anything to do with your squat. This is ignorant b/c it shows you have no clue what muscles increase what lift.

Just like this:

Maybe I have piss poor genetics when it comes to my chest, but I have never seen anyone who was tall and scrawny like me put up 225lbs.

-sk

Your chest 'genetics' have nothing to do with how much you bench press, hence the referral you got to the bp sticky but of course you know all that already because:

I read the sticky the first week it was made a sticky. I still don't know how I made an ass out of myself.
-sk

Constntly you have been a stubborn ass telling everyone that you don't belive their numbers because you don't see the "big" guys at your college gym lifting as much. I lifted in my college gym when the athletic weight room was closed. I saw the "big" guys you are talking about and they were week as shit. Just because some frat boy runs a shitload of gear and does the beach workout doesn't mean you should consider him a representative sample of the people that are posting on this board. Go watch the football team workout, or the throwers, or the wrestlers. Then come tell us how a guy that is 6'3'' and 185 can't bench 235 on average. That is an average bench press for an athlete that size. Just because you started out weak doesn't mean that everyone at the size you were at when you started is at the same strength level. This is another way you show your ignorance and inexperience: you run your mouth about how you think everyone is full of shit, but you don't know the first thing about strength training...you think everything has to do with hypertrophy. You refuse to listen to spatts and hannibal and others that are saying things that should open your mind, but that is probably your biggest mistake.

And just because you add some fucking disclaimer like:

This isn't an attack to anyone in particular as I am sure some of you aren't lying about your numbers, but threads like this either turn into misconceptions or just plain old lies.

doesn't mean that the people you just called liars aren't going to take it personally so just to illustrate my point I will say that none of this was meant as an attack on you, it is simply said in hopes that you use it to edify yourself instead of finding a way around it so you can still be right. In other words if you want to speak then learn to listen. Have a nice day