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Why not outsource CEO jobs???

atlantabiolab said:


Many of your fellow idiots have predicted much worse, either due to not understanding the issue or simply rejecting reason.

Explain to us why your "end of the world" economic rants are any different than those which have existed from the very start of this nation? When the textile market was being industrialized, textile workers yelled the same thing. When farming conglomerates appeared, the small farmers yelled the same thing. When manufacturing began to move overseas, the workers yelled the same thing. All of them were wrong, what is right about your scenario?

It is so unfortunate that people listen to idiots though.
You are destined to be nothing but an internet know it all, most likely posting from a wheelchair and able to do nothing but read.

Good day...I have nothing further to say. You never even posted a pic of your decrepit ass.

Hole.
 
OMGWTFBBQ said:


The fact that their countries are worse off matters less than their education and experience.
Someone can learn programming from a book.
You can't just read "Be a CEO in 10 days!" and then run a multi-national company.
That is the difference, not the fact that they are from XYZ.

There are plenty of CEOs from other countries (many from India and China) that have the pedigree to succeed and they are doing fine.
There is no reason that our MNC's can not be headed by a CEO of Chinese or Indian origin.

Doesn't seem to fit now but increasing globalization will make it so. The workers will move into middle management, then upper management, then the top job.

I think our CEOs may reconsider their thoughts on outsourcing when it starts occurring in their own ranks.
 
plornive said:
Tboy, I have a few investments and haven't made much from them yet. I definitely don't consider myself to be part of a group of elite individuals making money at the expense of fellow americans.

I believe in conspiracy theories if they really explain reality. However, I see a lot of small companies in North America outsourcing to China. People from everywhere are taking a piece of the pie.

Since you didn't like my nun analogy, I will directly ask you: What do you suggest? What's your solution?
Solution? I needed a little time for one or two since I usually post in an exapserated(sp) state of mind after a hectic day.


I think our educational system needs to be revamped so our workers are smarter, better educated and more attractive to employers for starts.

If spouses were more fun to be with perhaps executives would be more reluctant to manufacture reasons to be abroad as well.

I think we need more freedom thus making being in America more attractive.

Our tax rate needs to go down and litigation needs to be severely reduced.


We need to make doing business in America with Americans a whole lot more attractive. The CEO's are simply doing what they feel is in their best interest.
 
Testosterone boy said:
You are destined to be nothing but an internet know it all, most likely posting from a wheelchair and able to do nothing but read.

Good day...I have nothing further to say. You never even posted a pic of your decrepit ass.

Hole.

I kinda figured that reasoning was not one of your strengths. You can post your bullshit ideas, but you never can support them. You will make a good Democrat voter.

Ta Ta.
 
Testosterone boy said:
I think our educational system needs to be revamped so our workers are smarter, better educated and more attractive to employers for starts.
More attractive factory employees? Executives?

Testosterone boy said:
If spouses were more fun to be with perhaps executives would be more reluctant to manufacture reasons to be abroad as well.

I think we need more freedom thus making being in America more attractive.

Our tax rate needs to go down and litigation needs to be severely reduced.
I agree that the economy should be more free. I'm not sure what you were saying about spouses. I still think the bottom line is what businesses will seek regardless.


Testosterone boy said:
We need to make doing business in America with Americans a whole lot more attractive. The CEO's are simply doing what they feel is in their best interest.
Doing business with American companies is VERY attractive. American companies are well established and can be trusted on a basic level.

China and SE Asia are changing global prices. I don't see how taking a less efficient route is a viable long-term solution. America should find new advantages. They should not try to compete in a matured market with people who are willing to sacrifice more.

Even if America has the best educated and most skilled workers on the planet, it still won't bring the bottom line lower than abroad. Thus, what I said in the last paragraph is true no matter how you slice it.

By the way, let's keep this civil. :)
 
The kink in the doomsayers' rhetoric is the fact of human ingenuity. Man, if left alone, will and does innovate areas of business and create new markets. Protectionists see reality in a vacuum, they won't accept the idea of change and improvement.

A simple book which can assist in understanding basic economics is "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt.
 
atlantabiolab said:
The kink in the doomsayers' rhetoric is the fact of human ingenuity. Man, if left alone, will and does innovate areas of business and create new markets. Protectionists see reality in a vacuum, they won't accept the idea of change and improvement.

A simple book which can assist in understanding basic economics is "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt.
That is like me recommneding that you read "Attaining Manhood" by Sumhunghi to understand basic procreation.


Sure Americans will innovate new products and services. The Chinese will make it, the Mexicans will service it, and the Indians will do the engineering, data management, and financial services.

Leaving Americans with how much of the pie? Our lawyers will sue over those scraps. :)
 
atlantabiolab said:



Explain to us why your "end of the world" economic rants are any different than those which have existed from the very start of this nation? When the textile market was being industrialized, textile workers yelled the same thing. When farming conglomerates appeared, the small farmers yelled the same thing. When manufacturing began to move overseas, the workers yelled the same thing.

All of them were wrong, what is right about your scenario?


Your post sorta proved testboy's point.

There is essentially no textile manufacturing left in the US. Small farmers have been forced off their land (remember the 80's ? -i don't know how old you are) And the manufacturing sector has lost 2.5 million jobs in the last 3 years - NEVER to return.

Maybe that farmer didn't want to lose his land and livelihood, perhaps that garment cutter liked their job.

When do we draw a line in the sand?

Interestingly, I've seen in the press here that Germany is making a concerted effort to retain as many manufacturing jobs as possible in their country because they are concerned about the long term remifications of their loss. You can go on about the sclerotic european economy, but the truth is, quality of life is as goos as and in many cases better than in the states.
 
Hengst did you honestly just try and say that since the farmer and textile worker might have enjoyed their jobs, we shouldn't have changed that industry and prevent future progress?

I honestly don't get how you can possibly not see the forward progress that the nation as a whole has made since those times, let alone the world in general.

It isn't as if an industry changes and then everyone in the world says "oh shit... ah fuck it, I'm just gonna take a nap" - everything keeps moving, new things are invented, and we hit a global revolution in innovation ever N years where N is continually decreasing.

Fucking luddites.

Also, I would like to point out the humor that I took in ABL suggesting a book that might help some of the people on this thread learn something or at least see a different viewpoint and then be able to discuss it rationally instead of emotionally... and then Testosterone Boy essentially responded with "I READ LOTS OF BOOKS MAYBE YOU CAN'T READ" and then referenced a book that was entirely out of left field (yet vaguely keeping with his trend of referencing his own penis in his threads).

Fuck I need coffee if I'm going to read anything today and not want to kill everyone.
 
Testosterone boy said:
Solution? I needed a little time for one or two since I usually post in an exapserated(sp) state of mind after a hectic day.


I think our educational system needs to be revamped so our workers are smarter, better educated and more attractive to employers for starts.

If spouses were more fun to be with perhaps executives would be more reluctant to manufacture reasons to be abroad as well.

I think we need more freedom thus making being in America more attractive.

Our tax rate needs to go down and litigation needs to be severely reduced.


We need to make doing business in America with Americans a whole lot more attractive. The CEO's are simply doing what they feel is in their best interest.
By the way -
If I read this right, your solution doesn't include any policy of restricting trade. You just dislike outsourcing. Your solution would not stop outsourcing.
 
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