Why isn't this chick returning my texts?

[calveless wonder]

I love how guys who have read mystery method or the game or a david d dvds or books on seduction think they actually know what they're talking about. There's some good and accurate stuff in there mixed within a bunch of fake and manipulative bullshit.

most "game" people i know are fuckin herbs. The further i've gotten away from that stuff, the easier time i have.
If you're gonna subscribe to that bullshit, juggler and one or two other people are the only ones without their head up their ass with stupid terminology. A few teach about real interpersonal connection and how being real works, and how to attract a higher quality of women

You'll never attract a "real" chick with that crap. A majority of these seduction methods are just bandaids for weak personality traits and a lack of personal development.

 

[Smurfy]

I love how guys who have read mystery method or the game or a david d dvds or books on seduction think they actually know what they're talking about. There's some good and accurate stuff in there mixed within a bunch of fake and manipulative bullshit.

most "game" people i know are fuckin herbs. The further i've gotten away from that stuff, the easier time i have.
If you're gonna subscribe to that bullshit, juggler and one or two other people are the only ones without their head up their ass with stupid terminology. A few teach about real interpersonal connection and how being real works, and how to attract a higher quality of women

You'll never attract a "real" chick with that crap. A majority of these seduction methods are just bandaids for weak personality traits and a lack of personal development.

you hit the nail on the head here buddy

 

[Razorguns]

I love how guys who have read mystery method or the game or a david d dvds or books on seduction think they actually know what they're talking about. There's some good and accurate stuff in there mixed within a

This is usally the response by guys who scared shitless of women and have no game for hot unknown chicks. I have yet to see somehow who disagrees with these books - and can pickup women easily during the day.

I didn't read teh book to learn. I already mastered it on my own before even knowing what seduction was. Once I did - I realize wow, they were dead on.

99% of guys out there suck shit at picking up women they don't know. When I get bored at clubs, sometimes I sit back and watch and laugh.

r

 

[calveless wonder]

you hit the nail on the head here buddy

don't get me wrong though. i'm moreso talking about the techniques/pick up lines and people like razorguns.

Some of these dating "gurus" have helped alot of people become a better person and step outsidse their comfort zones assuming they didn't take everything they heard as gospel and were good people to begin with.

I delved into this stuff for years on and off, moreso the psychology aspect of things, and i learned a good bit about interpersonal relationships as a result.
It helped me develop a classic "kiss move" which i always had problems with. now i can always get a girl to make out with me

I think the advice some of these guys give is really good at least when talking about "inner" self and changing your internal negative programming in trying to be a confident and secure person. That stuff is golden, but a majority of everything else is garbage.

 

[OneBreath]

Her phone is turned off?

 

[calveless wonder]

This is usally the response by guys who scared shitless of women and have no game for hot unknown chicks. I have yet to see somehow who disagrees with these books - and can pickup women easily during the day.

I didn't read teh book to learn. I already mastered it on my own before even knowing what seduction was. Once I did - I realize wow, they were dead on.

99% of guys out there suck shit at picking up women they don't know. When I get bored at clubs, sometimes I sit back and watch and laugh.

r

lol, every girl i know that's good with women naturally will tell you you're a fuckin tool if you have to really use some of the obvious disingenuine methods. its one thing to delve into evolutionary psychology or notice certain patterns of behavior by women (i.e. not liking needy guys), but to do things intentionally to manipulate or attraction attention is so lame.

You're right about most guys sucking at picking up women, however.Because it's mostly because they're full of shit and dont know hot to get into someones "inner" persona. They shit they say is completely fake, cheesy or lame.once you drop the whole social mask its alot easier to get someone on a 1 on 1 basis.

anyone who knows the true "game" guys will agree with me.Wish GD was still here so he could back me up, although his school of thought is a little different than me

 

[mrplunkey]

you've taken a seduction course?

Yes, the same semester he took "Tact 101" and "Using Guitars as Currency 212".

 

[calveless wonder]

Yes, the same semester he took "Tact 101" and "Using Guitars as Currency 212".

lol, i love this guy more and more everyday

(except the whole anti weed thing)

 

[mrplunkey]

I met yet another girl last night and we went back to my friends house and I took her downstairs....... but she wouldn't have sex with me. I'm totally cool with that, in a way I like it because I like this girl. I was kissing her alot and I could tell she was totally into me. She is beautiful and very different than other girls I meet. I was very drunk and was being a cocky son of a bitch so maybe that's why she didn't respond back. She also might not be responding back because while I look like some abercrombie looking guy, she's this tatted up rocker chick.
So you guys think I should give her call? Should I say I'm sorry for being a cocky prick? The thing is is that even though I acted that way it didn't faze her at all, I could tell she was totally into me and that I could say anything and it would be ok.
At one point I was telling that we should take her clothes off and I even said that pathetic, " I know you wanna do it too".
She called me a creep after I said that....... but then we started making out, lol. She is both a photographer and a DJ, she gave me her card and it has her e-mail on it. Maybe I should e-mail this chick? IDK

You look like a skinny, underage gay guy?

 

[all the whey]

99% of guys out there try the ol 'let me be funny, nice, get her phone # and all well be well!' technique.

and u wonder why guys go months or years w/o girlfriends.

Go read the mystery method. She's now suffering from next day guilt. That's like page 42. Basically the alcohol is over, fun is over, new day - last thing she wants to do is call some guy she barely knows.

Many classic mistakes. It's okay. Learn and adapt. I was that way too once. I get #'s and always wondered why nothing ever happened after that.

r

The goal is to not have a gf.