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Why BBF thinks MLK Day is silly.

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Sure he was a good man... but are we going to start giving everyone who does something good a holiday? Let's have a Ghandi Day and a "That guy Billy who does volenteer work at teh soup kitchen every saturday and sunday Day".

The roots prejudice in this country have gotten smaller and smaller, and within another generation people are not going to care about MLK anymore.

Furthermore, I really needed to deposite my paycheck today, and Anna has to stay a day later in Bryan (100 miles away from me) to turn in her defensive driving class papers at the courthouse tomarrow since she realized the courthouse there would be closed today... thus I will not get to be with her two nights in a row. Thank you MLK for making my life harder and more stressful. Fucker. To the person who came up with the idea of making it a national holiday: You sir/ma'am are a fucktard. Fuck you up your sorry ass with a big rubber dick, break it off and beat you with what's left.
 
PERFECTWORLD said:

What? I think MLK would be upset that his holiday was causing undo distress. He was a humble man and probably would not have even liked the idea of a holiday wit his name on it.
 
I agree. i think it's a joke. I mean, wouldn't it be BETTER utilized if it was a:

"Hey black people, stop killing OTHER black people" day?

The #1 killer of races aren't other evil races. It's themselves.
 
I don't like it because I have to work while other people are off.
 
Used to be called Lee/King/Jackson Day...my ass is at work, and the few african americans that work here took off...and are in church today.

then somehow it turned into MLK Day one day....no matter what city you are in MLK road/street is so rundown/ghetto....figure at least keep the dream alive and pay homage to him, instead of having it filled w/trash debris, boarded up buildings....
 
And if you budgeted better instead of blowing all of last weeks check on cheap hair extensions
and high dollar micro penis pumps, you could have waited to deposit your check tomorrow..
 
Since you have no job you can't appreciate a holiday. Some of us like having the day off from work... Well, I'm here today but only workling half day.
 
I do know that any meetings that are scheduled for today that have
African Americans scheduled to attend will be sparse in attendance with that crowd.

just speaking the truth not being racist..
 
Martin Luther King wasn't a good man; He was a great man. Less than 40 years ago, blacks couldn't even use the same facilities as whites among other things. That wasn't very long ago. He was the heart and soul of the civil rights movemen"I Have A Dream"
by Martin Luther King, Jr,


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Delivered on the steps at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington D.C. on August 28, 1963. Source: Martin Luther King, Jr: The Peaceful Warrior, Pocket Books, NY 1968

Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of captivity. But one hundred years later, we must face the tragic fact that the Negro is still not free.

One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languishing in the corners of American society and finds himself an exile in his own land.

So we have come here today to dramatize an appalling condition. In a sense we have come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir.

This note was a promise that all men would be guaranteed the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check which has come back marked "insufficient funds." But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation.

So we have come to cash this check -- a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice. We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to open the doors of opportunity to all of God's children. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood.

It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment and to underestimate the determination of the Negro. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights.

The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges. But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred.

We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. we must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.

The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny and their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.

We cannot walk alone. And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" we can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.

I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.

Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair. I say to you today, my friends, that in spite of the difficulties and frustrations of the moment, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.

I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident: that all men are created equal." I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slaveowners will be able to sit down together at a table of brotherhood. I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a desert state, sweltering with the heat of injustice and oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice. I have a dream that my four children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I have a dream today.

I have a dream that one day the state of Alabama, whose governor's lips are presently dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, will be transformed into a situation where little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls and walk together as sisters and brothers. I have a dream today. I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together. This is our hope. This is the faith with which I return to the South. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood. With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.

This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with a new meaning, "My country, 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the pilgrim's pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring." And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania! Let freedom ring from the snowcapped Rockies of Colorado! Let freedom ring from the curvaceous peaks of California! But not only that; let freedom ring from Stone Mountain of Georgia! Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee! Let freedom ring from every hill and every molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.

When we let freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and Gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! free at last! thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"



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I think MLK is one of the only holidays/days off actually worth it.........

thanksgiving = bunch of fat slobs eating all day.
St Patty's day = an excuse for the already piss drunk irish to get even more piss drunk
Valentines day= a day for pussy whipped punks to try and impress their lady.
Christmas = a bunch of people buying each other bullshit that they are either: never gonna wear, return to the store, or get sick of after a week or two.
 
Lets see.. he fucked around on his wife. Got caught multiple times sleeping with prostitutes. Was known to beat women.. lied and cheated his way through college.

The guy sure as hell doesnt deserve a holiday in his name.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Lets see.. he fucked around on his wife. Got caught multiple times sleeping with prostitutes. Was known to beat women.. lied and cheated his way through college.

The guy sure as hell doesnt deserve a holiday in his name.


lol..where did you read this...KKK Monthly?
 
anyone that gets me a 3 day weekend away from the insane asylum is ok with me.
 
NJjuice22 said:
I think MLK is one of the only holidays/days off actually worth it.........

St Patty's day = an excuse for the already piss drunk irish to get even more piss drunk
Valentines day= a day for pussy whipped punks to try and impress their lady.


Those 2 are not gov't holidays. Other holidays that are worth a damn, though exploited:

-Memorial Day
-Veteran's Day
-Independance Day
-Labor Day
 
Rex said:
Those 2 are not gov't holidays. Other holidays that are worth a damn, though exploited:

-Memorial Day
-Veteran's Day
-Independance Day
-Labor Day



i think Veteran's day is worth a hell of alot.....all those people that have died defending what they believe in.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Lets see.. he fucked around on his wife. Got caught multiple times sleeping with prostitutes. Was known to beat women.. lied and cheated his way through college.

The guy sure as hell doesnt deserve a holiday in his name.

I don't believe that shit. Of course his opponents are going to make shit up about him, but even if he did cheat on his wife or sleep with prostitutes, that doesn't change the fact that he was a great man.

Why is that nearly every great President has been rumored to have slept around, yet noone questions their greatness, but people look for excuses to knock down MLK, like he is supposed to be a perfect man in order to deserve that title?
 
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Well good to see was the breakthrough for the civil rights movement..well its time to move forward instead of looking back at the past...cause there's nothing one can do to change the past (civil rights area) but to only improve in the future...

flipping through MTV over the weekend.. and some real world show or something.. black guy was like i look at people based on color my whole life....white lady, white kid, black man, woman walking past me....can't see them as people or human beings...why the chip on the shoulder ???? and even envied the light complexioned black/mixed girl cause she doesn't see life that way.... iwas like WTF is wrong with him...i see people as they are, not their color.
 
LOL from your posts Njjuice22 you dont know a fuckign thing about him either .. if you did you sure as hell wouldnt put him on a pedastle the way you do.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
LOL from your posts Njjuice22 you dont know a fuckign thing about him either .. if you did you sure as hell wouldnt put him on a pedastle the way you do.



and your going based on some total bullshit you read off the web somewhere. :rolleyes:
 
Bush has lied, cheated on his wife, beat his wife, used drugs... etc....

So why condemn another man for that?

No matter what he did, he was one man that stood up in tuberlent times for a cause - while just - was also guranteed to get him killed for. Which it did. He gave up his life to bring recognition to other people that couldn't have achieved it any other way.
 
AAP he didnt "give" his life for shit.. it was taken.

and I fuckign hate Bush too.. I sure as hell didnt vote for him.

But dont think .. in spite of his "great deeds" that I wont call a duck a duck.

He was a liar, plagiarizer and woman beater.


Fuck even his own DAUGHTER sued to keep his records sealed because she admitted it "would ruin him"


You all know this shit to be true.. why is it you're in such denial? because he was black?
 
He pretty much gave his life. He knew he would be killed. So what if another person killed him, he chose the cause that led to his death. He had numerous death threats and promises that he knew were going to lead to him being murdered.

When you look back over the course of American history, his name will be remembered for changing things and being ingrained with a movement towards a better America. Just look beyond the faults of the man and see what his actions led to.
 
It is on the calendar as a national holiday, it has been a national holiday since 1986.

If you can't remember to go to the bank or realize courthouses/federal buildings will be closed, IN ANTICIPATION of them being closed, I don't know what to tell you.
 
I think we should have Al Sharpton day. :)

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bluepeter said:
There should be a Malcolm X day.

I got a petition going for a Nipsey Russell Day.....so far it's just me and him on the list.
 
bluepeter said:
Malcolm was twice the man MLK was.

Yup, but he use to scare white folks. They much rather have the peaceful Negro like MLK...
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
uhh no fucktard.. Ill take it from the New York Times, Newsweek and books written by people he worked with.


anyone can throw somethihng up on the web and say its from the New York Times... this is the first time I have heard anything like that about him, so why should i listen to a fuckin punk like you?
 
NJjuice22 said:
anyone can throw somethihng up on the web and say its from the New York Times... this is the first time I have heard anything like that about him, so why should i listen to a fuckin punk like you?

Actually, King's infidelity is fairly well documented........

I don't agree with Hobgobber though, I think the good he did outweighed whatever bad.
 
gtrcivic said:
Used to be called Lee/King/Jackson Day...my ass is at work, and the few african americans that work here took off...and are in church today.

then somehow it turned into MLK Day one day....no matter what city you are in MLK road/street is so rundown/ghetto....figure at least keep the dream alive and pay homage to him, instead of having it filled w/trash debris, boarded up buildings....

The Trail of Tears where the Cherokee were relocated passes through my town and it is now a busy highway. Although the road was used by the Cherokee, it has been renamed "Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd" even though he never even set foot in my state. Business owners were against renaming the road for obvious reasons.
 
Breeze said:
The Trail of Tears where the Cherokee were relocated passes through my town and it is now a busy highway. Although the road was used by the Cherokee, it has been renamed "Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd" even though he never even set foot in my state. Business owners were against renaming the road for obvious reasons.


Yeah, because as Chris Rock says"

"I don't care where you live in America, if you're on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there's some violence going on."
 
:rainbow: I think MLK was indeed a Great Man. Only for what he brought to our country. Liberation for the blacks. I do not think that he should have a National Hoilday. This Counrty has many great Men, but they don't get their own Holiday. Lets look at a few, George Washington, first President of our Country. What about Abraham Linclon, he freed the slaves. What about Benjiman Franklin, without him we would all still be in the dark. The list is endless.
If you think MLK Day is bad ..try living in Atlanta .. ;)
 
the nature boy said:
Yeah, because as Chris Rock says

"I don't care where you live in America, if you're on Martin Luther King Boulevard, there's some violence going on."

I've tested that theory too. I've been on MLK Blvd in a lot of the cities I've been to, and they are shitty parts of town.
 
I think if you can get past the man, and concentrate on the message, you'll see that what he did had to be done.

There are blacks who can't swim, because they weren't allowed in whites only pools. Fucked up.

Crack cocaine? Just happened to appear in S. Central L.A.? Fucked up.

Corporations, that exist today, that were built on and profited directly from slavery? Fucked up.

Ever see a young black man hanging from a tree?
Because he talked to a white girl?
My grandfather did.
Horrific sight.
Fucked up.

MLK was a great man. His dream was even greater.



*End of rant*
 
If by MLK - you mean Martin Luther King you'd ought to catch up on some history.


He was a brilliant human being - black, white, man, woman - he changed history just by the people he influenced.
 
what person living now would be worthy of a holiday? is there even one? are there any great people? anyone who has made an impact, a profound impact? is it maybe because they learned a lesson and don't let people achieve that type of power or influence any longer?
 
I don't get any holidays off because you bastards use up too much natural gas and oil.

Use Solar energy, and let Mountain Muscle have a day off.

Sorry BBF but you are dead wrong in this case. MLK is the one man in the history of this nation that should absolutely have a holiday in his honor. I assume you are joking but never the less...

To top it off, I not only had to go to work today, but I had to go to school as well. WTF?
 
who would you rather see as a role model for inpressionable young kids.....MLK or the gansta thugs that pollute MTV?? :rolleyes:
 
No no no, mainly I'm complaining because I didn't have time to get to the bank this weekend, and will not get laid tonight because of this holiday. Its nothing personal against MLK Jr... just the peeps who decided to make it a national holiday.

I'm not broke, but it would be NICE to put my check in the bank a few days after I get it... I haven't yet had time at work to set up direct diposit.

BRR...keep up with the news I have a full time job right now and am making a fair amount of money. Annabelletx and I moved to Houston and are both working here and planing on finishing up our degrees by going part time to U of H.
 
Milo Hobgoblin said:
Lets see.. he fucked around on his wife. Got caught multiple times sleeping with prostitutes. Was known to beat women.. lied and cheated his way through college.

The guy sure as hell doesnt deserve a holiday in his name.


Well, he WAS a man. *sarcasm*

And I guess he's in good company when compared with other influential people, world leaders, movers and shakers and Fortune 500 people.
 
Razorguns said:
I agree. i think it's a joke. I mean, wouldn't it be BETTER utilized if it was a:

"Hey black people, stop killing OTHER black people" day?

The #1 killer of races aren't other evil races. It's themselves.


Haha, yeah. I still had to work today, and I needed to do shit but alas, everything was closed, including the university, where I could've gotten some important shit taken care of. :o Now it'll have to wait. I don't like half assed holidays where only governmental institutions are the ones allowed to be closed. Makes things harder for everyone else.
 
velvett said:
Well, he WAS a man. *sarcasm*
Ouch

And I guess he's in good company when compared with other influential people, world leaders, movers and shakers and Fortune 500 people.

Yeah, pretty much everyone powerful is corrupted and/or practicing corruption in some way.
 
The holiday for a cheater is once again upon us; a time of infamy when public school children across the United States make obeisance to the secular idol of the new religion, "Rev. Dr." Martin Luther King Jr.

Ronald Reagan, the conservatives' hero, signed the holiday legislation on behalf of a man he personally regarded as immoral and unworthy of the honor. "But," Reagan told a former New England governor with a monumental shrug of the shoulders, "image prevails over reality."

Indeed. It has been conclusively documented that Martin Luther King Jr. cheated to obtain a doctorate, but the national "civil rights" hoax perpetrated in his name must be shielded, and hence he's still "Dr." King.

King's leftist biographer, David J. Garrow, author of the standard reference work, "Bearing the Cross: Martin Luther King Jr. and the Southern Christian Leadership Conference," has stated: "Nothing can be gained by attempting to minimize or understate either the amount of King's plagiarism or the seriousness of the academic wrongdoing it represented."

King's plagiarism in his doctoral dissertation at Boston University is not the only academic fraud he perpetrated. Recent scholarship has disclosed that King plagiarized much of the writing of his entire career. The fact is, King cheated in one form or another throughout his life.

The first public sermon King ever gave, in 1947 at Ebenezer Baptist Church, was plagiarized from a homily by Protestant clergyman Harry Emerson Fosdick entitled, "Life is What You Make of It." The first book King ever wrote, "Stride Toward Freedom," was plagiarized according to documentation assembled by King scholars Keith D. Miller, Ira G. Zepp Jr. and David Garrow.

King's essay, "The Place of Reason and Experience in Finding God," written at Crozer Theological Seminary, pirated passages from the work of theologian Edgar S. Brightman. Another of King's theses, written shortly after he entered graduate school at Boston University, "Contemporary Continental Theology," was largely stolen from a book by Walter Marshall Horton.

King's Boston University dissertation, "A Comparison of the Conceptions of God in the Thinking of Paul Tillich and Henry Nelson Wieman," for which he was awarded the PhD. and upon which his title of "Dr." King is based, contains more than "fifty complete sentences" represented by King as his own writings, but which were actually lifted by King, without attribution, from Jack Boozer's doctoral dissertation, "The Place of Reason in Paul Tillich's Concept of God." The four senior editors of "The Papers of Martin Luther King, Jr.," state: "...only 49% of the sentences in the section on Tillich contain five or more words that were King's own..."!

Since the record of King's cheating is irrefutable, how is it that his doctorate has not been withdrawn? On Oct. 10, 1991, a committee of researchers at Boston University admitted, "There is no question but that Dr. King plagiarized in the dissertation." However, "Despite its finding, the committee said that 'no thought should be given to the revocation of Dr. King's doctoral degree,' an action the panel said would serve no purpose." ("Boston University Panel Finds Plagiarism by Dr. King," NY Times, Oct. 11, 1991, p. 15).

The message from the votaries of Kingolatry to their captive audience--the indoctrinated children in America's public schools--is clear-- cheat as you please, and as long as you are politically correct, the Establishment will protect you from the consequences of your fraud.

The King of Adultery

Both Attorney General Robert Kennedy and FBI director J. Edgar Hoover ordered King's rooms bugged with electronic surveillance equipment from 1963 onward. These tapes revealed that King, a married man, used tax-exempt money from his SCLC organization to hire white prostitutes for sex. These tapes were ordered sealed for fifty years by Federal Judge John Smith, Jr. on Jan. 31, 1977. They are scheduled to be released to the public in the year 2027. Some 90 Congressmen urged President Reagan to find out what was on those tapes before he signed the King Holiday into law. But of course, Reagan was well aware of King's notorious string of adulteries.

On the day before his assassination, King spent his last night on earth having sex with two women, neither of whom was his wife, and physically beating a third. (Ralph David Abernathy, "And the Walls Came Tumbling Down," pp. 434-437; NY Times, Oct. 13, 1989, p. 14).

King cheated on his wife for years. He cheated on his graduate school theses. He cheated on his doctoral dissertation. He does not deserve the title Doctor, was not a genuine Christian Reverend and his name isn't even Martin Luther (his real name was Michael; his preacher father, "Daddy" King, announced in 1935 that henceforth his son's name would be Martin Luther. The change was never legalized).

Nevertheless, King is the nationally revered icon of a government system that has reversed the biblical injunction and insists on only having strange gods before us. This is the man our children are taught to emulate from grammar school onward. This is the man feted by our corporations as representing "American excellence."

George Washington's birthday is mostly an excuse to have sales on used cars and furniture. No genuine philosophy or statecraft of Washington is imparted to students in February. In fact, Washington's birthday has been combined with Lincoln's to form a generic "President's Day," which has devolved into a celebration of the office itself, and on occasion, even some of its more recent occupants, such as serial rapist Bill Clinton and nascent Emperor George W. Bush.

Much more than Martin Luther King's sanitized biography is taught at this time of year. In actuality, the secular lib-con religion of "Civil Rights" has become the gospel of the public schools, and children are taught that the formerly immemorial Common Law rights of freedom of association and property (the rights to hire, house and serve whomever one chooses), were the wicked historic grounds for "racism and hate."

The annual, ritual intellectual and spiritual child abuse embodied in the King holiday, was made possible by that other secular icon, Ronald "Bonzo" Reagan, who continues to ride tall in the saddle of the blathering conservative talk show hosts, who, in their double-minded dementia, cast Reagan as the last shining knight of the American presidency. This too is a cheat and a fitting appendage of the Holiday for a Cheater which their hero, out of cowardice and compromise, has inflicted on our nation in perpetuity. http://chem-gharbison.unl.edu/mlk/plagiarism.html
 
I dont know about you guys, but I aint complaining, I got a day off of school. :)

I dont believe that MLK went around beating women. The part about him cheating on his wife I believe, and lying (heck, everyone does that)

Fact is, he was the driving force that got rid of racial discrimination in our society, which opened up the door for getting rid of other types of discrimination: women, disabled people, etc.
 
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