what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo yaaa baby.

[Big Rick Rock]

I think people are missing the point...

By making DHEA and Pregnolone topical... You can decide which enzyme meets them first by picking the area of application accordingly....

You can't do that with the oral stuff...


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[VooDooChild]

Has there been any clinical studies done with Dermacrine? Could you post the studies or links please, thanks!

 

[a creed]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

my last cycle was 8 months ago this is what it was and this was my pct.

875mg adropin275 12 weeks
600mg deca 10 weeks
60mg dbal ed 1-4 weeks

pct
clomid,no,cee,bcaa's,trib,all for 4 weeks.

8 months later I took my before derma test and then 2 weeks latter i took my after derma test and I am very happ with the results...........

I thought you have always said you have NEVER done PCT (Clomid, etc) because you have never needed it..........

 

[a creed]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

you mean I didnt even have to stick another needle in my ass and I still raised me test.wow.

You're all over the place.......

You know we're cool, but your "low test levels" after 8 months could "easily" be due to the fact that you DON'T DO PCT, and although you may not "think" you need it,....maybe you did.

 

[mm107]

needto, i just posted my results as well, great job bro...i knew it was a fuckin placebo effect

 

[deepdish]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

The point is if the DHEA converts to test on entering the skin through enzymes that reside there, then yes it will boost test levels. However, this doesn't mean that the htpa axis is restored. Before people use this for pct there should be some evidence presented to show the effectiveness of dermacrine in stabilizing test levels, as apposed to simply raising them during the duration of application.

I think people are missing the point...

By making DHEA and Pregnolone topical... You can decide which enzyme meets them first by picking the area of application accordingly....

You can't do that with the oral stuff...


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[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

I thought you have always said you have NEVER done PCT (Clomid, etc) because you have never needed it..........

most of the time I dont.I have never used hcg but even ag can confirm that I have orderd countless bottles of clomid.why in fact I made a thread about not getting my order as fast as I wanted to because of a glitch in the order a wile back....I could pull it up if you like.most of the time I dont use clomid because I hate the sides and I never use hcg....how ever this time I did use derma and it worked great.

 

[Primordial Performance]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

The point is if the DHEA converts to test on entering the skin through enzymes that reside there, then yes it will boost test levels. However, this doesn't mean that the htpa axis is restored. Before people use this for pct there should be some evidence presented to show the effectiveness of dermacrine in stabilizing test levels, as apposed to simply raising them during the duration of application.

Ive made posts on the forum recommending different application sites based on your goals

For instance, its better to apply the derma to the legs and stomach for PCT, as less of it will convert to testosterone if applied to these areas compared to the shoulder/upper back skin. This way, you can get the DHEA in the system without so much exogenously created testosterone.

-Ppf

 

[D_Mac]

needto, i just posted my results as well, great job bro...i knew it was a fuckin placebo effect

mm where did you post your results, can you link to 'em?

 

[needtogetaas]

Re: what we have all bin waiting for/Dermacrine before and after test results....oooo

mm where did you post your results, can you link to 'em?

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537699&highlight=Dermacrine