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Phyto-test / Dermacrine Results (progress) Log

UPDATE:

Skipped a few days of updates cuz ironically i've been feeling a bit depressed lately, which is strange considering where i've gotten in the last 6wks physically, I should be stoked and I am!

Anyway, Chest went really well I was able to put 275 on the hammer strength flat press machine (decided to try it VS the bar / dumbells for once) and it felt amazing. Totally locked in place, Pec isolation. I felt them dying fiber by fiber :evil:

Now keep in mind I was barely able to push 185 on that same hammer strength machine a couple months back. That is significant progress in my pressing strength overall and I couldn't be happier.

I'm curling the 110lb straight bar now with ease as well. I can tell my biceps have grown a lot. All my back excercises feel better, more controlled & I feel it has to do with my Bi's catching up a bit.

Legs were awesome yesterday, 225lbs on squats is now officially "light" feeling. I need to add more weight but i'm such a freakin WUSS when it comes to legs! I dunno what my mental issue is with them! Makes me wish so bad I had a training partner to kick my ass a bit on leg day... i'd probably be doing 315 by now. My legs have REALLY come a long way in the past two months as well. For the first time I had to go buy new pants, and when I tried them on they got stuck on my quads, NOT at my waist. Never happened before!!!!


As I stated though i've been fighting depression feelings that come in waves, and are very annoying. I have also been having some of the worst nights sleep in a while lately. Last night was the peak of that. I must have woke up every 15-20 mins. I definitely don't feel "rested" today, but i'll just have to deal with it.
 
I'm thinking I may know whats causing the mood change / sleep issues.

I ran out of derma (did two bottles back to back) but i'm only in week 1 of my 4wk PH run, so I don't want to start my sustain untill i'm done with the PH's.

I had forgotten how good derma made me feel untill I didn't have it anymore lol
 
im in the middle of week 3 on derma/phyto/toco and i feel great. i started this a week after my last inject of test e/tren e/masteron 8 weeker. i actually havnt been off in about 3 years cycling low to mid to high dose cycles. so far i think this is a great way to get off for a while and still feel great and make progress. the first 2 weeks i felt very lethargic other than when i went to the gym. this week my energy levels and motivation are back and actually higher then when i was on. i was having a hard time getting myself to the gym even 2 times per week. my workouts were HIT because i just didnt have the motivation to train with any volume. now i cant wait to get to the gym everyday. last week i trained 5 days and didnt bring my gear to work yesterday because i had hit the gym 3 days in a row. at 5pm when i usually go to the gym i was wishing i had brought my stuff. ive changed my workouts so i can go 6 days a week. i havnt been this motivated in years.
i am very impressed with PP products. not sure how my strength is because im doing more volume now and not using as heavy weights. i lost about 6 lbs over a 1 month period prior to starting these products and my weight is up 4 lbs and my waist is actually smaller and i havnt gained any body fat. my shoulders and arms definatly feel fuller. i have omegas strength stack coming this week so im sure that will add to the gains. like i said im very impressed so far and cant wait to see the resullts over the next 6 weeks. ill keep jumping on this thread every so often to update my progress if thats ok.
 
searay said:
ill keep jumping on this thread every so often to update my progress if thats ok.


Abesolutely bro! I ain't playin a fame game here lol, just trying to give back in any way I can to this great little secret society we got here :D
 
Ok I will jump in here also. Started the Dermacrine/Phytotest combo on Saturday.

Honestly I was expecting to be disappointed because with all the hype I figured there must have been some "kickbacks" going on in the form of free products or something. I felt pretty skeptical.

But I gotta say, I can totally feel it kicking in - it does feel like I have a pro-hormone or anabolic steroid in my system. Not like a 500mg Test cycle ( only did that once and will probably never again ), but similar to when I ran an Oral Turanibol cycle by itself. Here is some feedback.

1.) First off, the phyto isnt great tasting, but its not nearly as bad as I thought. Im running 5ml 2X daily, but I hold it under my tongue 30-45 seconds before chugging it down. It does cause your body to smell different ( kinda like maple syrup with some sort of synthetic chemical odor mixed in ).

2.) Im on 3 pumps Derma 2X daily, so slightly more than average dose on both products.

3.) Within a couple days I noticed a significant increase in muscle fullness. Ya know how when you are 'on' your muscles just pump up ( I think with glycogen )? Well thats exactly what feels like is going on here. I "look" like I gained 5-7lbs of glycogen and water weight, but I think I may be losing fat because the only place on my body where flab accumulates is abs/handles. My abs look about the same but my handles have tightened up.

4.) Gym - definite increase in muscle energy and pumps/vascularity. I did deads the other day and hit weights I havent hit in a few months, despite having a virus the previous week. Not only that but my muscles had more energy as the sets went on. Also, my veins are popping out like its sumertime ( I dont know why this happens but it always seems like certain veins disappear in winter then come back in the summer, like the vein that branches across my bicep to complement the one that goes lengthwise ).

5.) Mood/Aggression/Libido - seems to be a slight gain in these areas with the exception of libido. Not sure why, usually I get a libido increase with test boosters but I feel about the same here.

I will give a couple more updates at some point, but I am pleasantly surprised right now. Like I said I was worried that I got suckered as I was reading the logs ( sounded too good for OTC supplement ), but so far I feel PP is onto something and this is a solid stack. If it turns out that nothing more beneficial happens I will definitely be back to set the record strait, but I am expecting good things at this point.
 
Sounds pretty much like what I was seeing from it Bro. Good to hear someone else is identifying similar "feelings" and effects meaning that it wasn't placebo.

Good times....
 
I miss the derma so much :(

I HATE the way I feel every morning now, and i'm having so much trouble sleeping grrr...

Stupid sdrol / phera plex / finigenx :|

Gains are great though lol just can't wait to start sustain in 2 more wks
 
truckdaddy said:
Man, i liked the derma.....but the Phytotest has done nothing for me....bout 2/3 of a bottle in.

Not even appetite increase? For me that was one of the most felt effects, and one I will sorely miss once I stop my 3rd bottle lol.

Although I plan on cutting after this bulker so it may be in my best interest
 
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